BBC/CNN WTC7 foreknowledge to Fluorescent Lighting - quite the journey

[Laura]

Meanwhile, the Bushies have done a "reverse gear" and are going to parlay with Iran. Hmmm...

Seems that the public outcry against both the U.S. and Israel in their transparent maneuvers to go after Iran was probably getting too intense and something had to be done. What to do?

Well, first of all, create a distraction - give the conspiracy people something to chew on like 9-11 and the almost useless information that the building collapse was announced before it happened. That should spread like wildfire and keep people busy for awhile.

Meanwhile, change the PUBLIC warmongering policy by agreeing to palaver with Iran and Syria.

MEANwhile, go to Pakistan and hook up with Musharraf again. After all, he was so helpful with 9-11. Create the myth that Osama is under the bed again, and then play nice for a few weeks until:

PRESTO! A new 9-11 type attack that can be clearly blamed on Iran!!!

And what bad people they are, too! After all, Bush and co were going to sit down and talk to them!

Sound plausible?

 

[PopHistorian]

Has anyone tried sending the link to Industrial Risk Insurers (which I noticed has chagned ownership from GE to Swiss Re) with a note saying, "hey, maybe you should look into getting your money back from Larry Silverstein?"

Yeah, I've noted that Pakistan is back in the news daily, Waziristan and everything, supposedly home base for Al Qaeda, talk of unauthorized US incursions, etc. Something seems to be cooking there.

 

[SeekinTruth]

I was going to post this by creating a new topic in the Signs News Articles forum/category. However, having read this thread, I think it "fits" in pretty well, especially the points made by anart in the first post and Joe’s post #5 linking to his very observant article (which I had already read before reading this thread).

What the heck is going on?!! Now to everything anart and everyone else said, I add this little gem - "CIA Evidence Used to Confront Musharraf; Showdown in Pakistan - But not everything is as it seems" from Brian Ross of ABC News - which was the original subject of this post:

http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/127624-CIA+Evidence+Used+to+Confront+Musharraf%3B+Showdown+in+Pakistan+-+But+not+everything+is+as+it+seems

This article is totally out of the ordinary (starting in the section But Not Everything is As it Seems) coming from the mainstream media, IMHO. And to top it all off, it brings into question the Pentagon attack, ACTUALLY linking to the Cass article about the drone plane - http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/boeing.htm. This fact is the most astonishing. Is this connected to the issues raised by Joe in "Israel To Bush Via The BBC And CNN: 'Attack Iran - Or Else'"? Is the timing of all this coincidental? What are the odds? Is the blackmail message being reinforced by yet another source? "Do what we say, or else...." And notice that blackmail is even mentioned in the article, but only with regard to India and Pakistan blackmailing the US (no big surprise here that Zionists would NOT be mentioned) each for their own reasons.

Also, the response from the BBC is very strange; it draws more attention to the problem than it answers it in any plausible way.

We cannot be absolutely certain of anything, but something definitely DOES seem to be up, as anart said.

 

[John G]

This article is totally out of the ordinary (starting in the section But Not Everything is As it Seems)

I think you may be confusing SOTT commentary with the actual article.

PRESTO! A new 9-11 type attack that can be clearly blamed on Iran!!!

Careful SOTT might get accused of being in on the conspiracy. I'd add a smiley but it doesn't seem appropriate, I really do think SOTT (and even readers) get treated like a terrorist sleeping cell by whoever.

 

[aurora]

On that day while watching CNN I had noticed that the reporters were very calm and serene, almost no show of emotion. But in reporting Katrina it was a different story. So could they have been somewhat notified in advance so the real tragedy does not seem move them so much.

 

[thorbiorn]

Meanwhile, the Bushies have done a "reverse gear" and are going to parlay with Iran. Hmmm...

Seems that the public outcry against both the U.S. and Israel in their transparent maneuvers to go after Iran was probably getting too intense and something had to be done. What to do?

Well, first of all, create a distraction - give the conspiracy people something to chew on like 9-11 and the almost useless information that the building collapse was announced before it happened. That should spread like wildfire and keep people busy for awhile.

Meanwhile, change the PUBLIC warmongering policy by agreeing to palaver with Iran and Syria.

MEANwhile, go to Pakistan and hook up with Musharraf again. After all, he was so helpful with 9-11. Create the myth that Osama is under the bed again, and then play nice for a few weeks until:

PRESTO! A new 9-11 type attack that can be clearly blamed on Iran!!!

And what bad people they are, too! After all, Bush and co were going to sit down and talk to them!

Sound plausible?

It does. These days it is one year since the uproar over the Danish Muhammed Cartoons. I discovered then that the "Danish flag" had been used by a Portuguese group of crusaders during the middle ages, which I interpret as an underlying archetype.

I think one aspect of social engineering is in applying impulses with FREQUENCY, just like in an airhammer, or if one wants to kindle a spark one can blow on it intermittently. Somebody calls it the kindling effect. In society frequency can be achieved as you suggest indirectly by a suitable mix of guided focus and diversion from the focus. Other aids are resonances like in 9/11 versus 3/11 (Madrid) or flight 77 in Washington DC versus 7/7 in London bombing etc.
The above is an observation, so I also have to ask if it is possible?

 

[Ruth]

Other aids are resonances like in 9/11 versus 3/11 (Madrid) or flight 77 in Washington DC versus 7/7 in London bombing etc.

I'm wondering if they're going to "go" for something like 3/3/07. Would they be that crass, or would they wait for something like 5/5/07, or 7/7/07? You wouldn't think that these evil do-ers would set such store in numbers...

 

[thorbiorn]

I'm wondering if they're going to "go" for something like 3/3/07. Would they be that crass, or would they wait for something like 5/5/07, or 7/7/07? You wouldn't think that these evil do-ers would set such store in numbers...

Let us see, becoming aware of the tools used is also a way of lessening their effect, isn't it?

Unfortunately their are so many others. Some resonances, might not be consciously created. I recall one session, where it was asked to the C's why a particulart number came up in a lottery. And I believe the response was something about mass consciousness signalling imminent danger.

I like to look at numbers, but I also think, that one has to take it case by case, and not as some absolute rule.

If I am getting vague, it is becasue Ark reminded me in a post the other day that 'the devil is in the details". I was wondering about his popular saying, if it is really true. I think so. The origin humoristically speaking must be that "detail" is short for "devil tail" and since "De-tails" has many, there is an unknown probability that one belongs to the devil. Therefore one has always to watch out. For example there is a resonance between devil and detail.

And one problem with details are that they often take 90 % of the time. Further since 90 % of the people, do not have that time or do not take that time, many people get deceived.

 

[Charles]

The origin humoristically speaking must be that "detail" is short for "devil tail" and since "De-tails" has many, there is an unknown probability that one belongs to the devil. Therefore one has always to watch out. For example there is a resonance between devil and detail.

And one problem with details are that they often take 90 % of the time. Further since 90 % of the people, do not have that time or do not take that time, many people get deceived.

But as such, it seems to imply that the good has to be found in the gross overall impression and not in the detail, which is definately not true.

So to make it a bit more complete. The origin is to be found in the German language: "Der Teufel ist im Detail"

This german saying translates literally to "the devil is in the detail" meaning that it's usually a detail, a small thing that makes the difference between good OR bad.

So apart from some phonetic resemblance between the bad (devil) and detail and then only when translated in English, in essence, the detail in this saying could as well resonate with the good.

 

[thorbiorn]

Thanks Charles for the explanation.

But as such, it seems to imply that the good has to be found in the gross overall impression and not in the detail, which is definately not true.

I think my understanding was that if there is a problem with a detail, then there would also be a problem necessarily with the gross overall impression. However I can understand this is not completely so. If I make a mistake in a drawing, then it could be patched up, just as a minor mistake may not affect seriously the overall picture. By contrast if I make an error of reasoning in a mathematical or scientific argument then immediately the overall quality may be seriously flawed.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

If I make a mistake in a drawing, then it could be patched up, just as a minor mistake may not affect seriously the overall picture. By contrast if I make an error of reasoning in a mathematical or scientific argument then immediately the overall quality may be seriously flawed.

Ok silly example but it applies I think - you can solve all of humanity's problems, and then if somebody asks how you solved them all, you say you blew up the planet. On the surface it looks like you're an amazingly skilled problem solver, sure sounds like a good quality if you never look at the details..

Or another possibility is what is happening right now - humanity wants peace. But if you establish a global tyranny and put everyone at gunpoint or in a cage, you can have peace that way too. So if you are Hitler and you managed to take over the world, you can say that you have created peace on earth. But the details reveal the circumstances and conditions of that peace, which suddenly changes someone from sounding like the greatest hero on earth to the greatest villain. And all because of the details.

 

[mamadrama]

Or another possibility is what is happening right now - humanity wants peace. But if you establish a global tyranny and put everyone at gunpoint or in a cage, you can have peace that way too. So if you are Hitler and you managed to take over the world, you can say that you have created peace on earth. But the details reveal the circumstances and conditions of that peace, which suddenly changes someone from sounding like the greatest hero on earth to the greatest villain. And all because of the details.

Or simply put: Do the ends justify the means?:)

 

[Nienna]

Or another possibility is what is happening right now - humanity wants peace. But if you establish a global tyranny and put everyone at gunpoint or in a cage, you can have peace that way too. So if you are Hitler and you managed to take over the world, you can say that you have created peace on earth. But the details reveal the circumstances and conditions of that peace, which suddenly changes someone from sounding like the greatest hero on earth to the greatest villain. And all because of the details.

And it seems to me that this is the way the psychopaths will actually see it. If they can control the world, then there will be peace. At least for them. And that is all that matters to them.

 

[allen]

Well, first of all, create a distraction - give the conspiracy people something to chew on like 9-11 and the almost useless information that the building collapse was announced before it happened. That should spread like wildfire and keep people busy for awhile.

Meanwhile, change the PUBLIC warmongering policy by agreeing to palaver with Iran and Syria.

MEANwhile, go to Pakistan and hook up with Musharraf again. After all, he was so helpful with 9-11. Create the myth that Osama is under the bed again, and then play nice for a few weeks until:

PRESTO! A new 9-11 type attack that can be clearly blamed on Iran!!!

And what bad people they are, too! After all, Bush and co were going to sit down and talk to them!

Do you mean like what Israel does by sitting down to negotiate "peace" with the Palestinians only to have the whole process get blown up (metaphorically) by the actions of some "suicide bomber"? Can't imagine that would happen here...

It does sound plausible, especially considering just how quickly this premonitory reporting thing has gotten so over blown. These videos do not feel right to me. The holes in the stories are big enough to fly a 757 through. The BBC reports that building 7 has collapsed then covers its butt by revealing that they received information that the building MIGHT collapse and screwed up their report. Case closed. At least, that's how I'd handle it if I were them.

Clearly, there must be a reason for this video leak right now. If any of this is genuine, someone has been intentionally sitting on it for a loooong time for a reason. If it is doctored or overblown, someone made a conscious decision to release it NOW and not before or later. The timing seems right for a major distraction. They got a good chunk of the population in a fuss with the death of Anna Nicole Smith, but that wouldn't do a thing for the more serious minded. These revelations seem like Anna Nicole Smith for the segment of the population that cares about what is going on.

 

[CarpeDiem]

video http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/02/26/the-smoking-gun-wtc7-bbc-jumps-the-gun/

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This is all just a plot by Alcoa to increase demand for alluminum for all the hats people are making to keep the government from reading their minds.
I remember this day VERY clearly.
For about 45 minutes before that building fell, CNN was saying that there were reports that it was unstable and likely to fall. And then it did. More than likely, some reports were misread and therefore misreported.
Think about it. Anyone able to launch a conspiracy at this scale would not have screwed the pooch on that one.
I'm amazed how after 5 short years, we've gone from seeking justice against those who attacked us to a paranoid fear of each other, usually fed by demagoguery in the once civil debate between conservative and liberal political factions within this great country.
It's not just paranoia against Mulsim Americans, it's paranoia against Conservatives. And Liberals. And Christians. And the lady in the homowners association who wants to eliminate yard art.
The funniest part is watching both sides throw the "sheeple" cliche at each other. It's frickin' hillarious, and they're too stupid to recognize that they demonize those that disagree with them along with the rest of the flock.

On this side of the sphere it's Anna Nicole Smith's death, the custody battle over her child and the arguements over jurisdiction. All the while, her body lay in the morgue decomposing. So while all this is happening here to keep us distracted, the real news goes on behind the scenes

The same close-to-vomiting Nicole coverage here, msm even didn't mention wtc7 foreknowledge smokescreen behind smokescreen] multiply N
imho they also agressively pull investment market severe resession strings. I'm not hooked on ccn / bbc commentaries but from what i grasp they speak of eastern China Tiger the way too much