Bill Ryan interview of "Charles".

Leo40

Jedi Master
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I just spent 2 hours listening to Bill Ryans latest interview of "Charles".
This is an exercise in discernment. I present a selection of items that
I have given an above 50% probability of being factual.

1. Bloodlines
They are not limited to families, They are spedific genetic traits that were not
specified. People with these genes have abilities and knowledge that are unknown to the "masses".
There exist observers who will identify such people and recruit them.
There are 427 so called families or individuals with these genes but 33 of them hold
supreme power.

2. Reality is what it is.

3. Disinformation.
Attack on disinfo people gives them credibility.

4. There will be no nuclear war. The investment will be protected.

5. Our solar system is binary.

6. Co=operation is the only way to manage in the coming difficulties.
No single person has all the skills and knowledge to succeed.

7. Extraterrestrials
There were no crashes, they were all shot down.
After the original contract was broken, the tables were turned.
Now PTB wants to invade space and other inhabitants,
The UFO's of the PTB are of modular design. Therefore the different shapes
observed. They can reassemble in flight.

The 33 controllers are considering the Earth their investment.
There actions are essentially reactive. When poked they slamm you.

fwiw
Critique is appreciated.
 
I watched the interview and agree that it was a good exercise in discernment and I found it very telling.

I generally agree with the points you have pulled out above, except for #7 and some minor quibbles with #1. First of all, Orion STS is who really controls this world in the end, and there was no mention of hyperdimensional realities during the film. Their 3D lackeys, whether you label them as Bilderbergers, the 300, or Illuminati, are at the end of the day just puppets that can be used and abused as well.

For the reasons that 4D STS really runs the show and different people are probably pushed into and pulled out of the conspiracy over the centuries, I don't see how anyone can really say that there are x amount of families with supreme power. I agree there is some core elitist/illuminist group who are more or less the 3D representatives for the Overlords of Entropy, but due to the fact that they are just being manipulated and deceived like any other STS group and aren't really all-powerful, all of this focus on the royal bloodlines is a bit misdirected and irrelevant, I think.

These 33, if they indeed exist as described, would like to think they are at the top of the pyramid, but their own egoism blinds them to the fact that they are just the playthings of bigger and better STS entities. This fact leads me into my argument about #7.

The PTB would like to think that they have all of this power against the 4th density beings and have turned the tables on them, but the fact of the matter is they are fighting a superior intelligence that can manipulate the very fabric of space and time and can cognize realities and relationships on a level our brains aren't even equipped to handle.

These aren't just humans from the next star system over with another few thousand years worth of technological advancements. While I wouldn't doubt there were a couple of incidents where the military may have downed a couple of already malfunctioning craft, like a stampeding herd may occasionally trample a cowboy, I do not think that the PTB have a way to engage 4D STS craft in any meaningful way.

The Cassiopaeans have said that most crashes are due to electromagnetic disturbances such as thunderstorms.

While the PTB might be able to make some waves with things like HAARP, I doubt they have a really effective weapons system. We must also consider that the types of craft the military is dealing with are like fighters and "gunboats." What are they going to do when the "cruisers" show up?

I'm sure they really would like to blow up the ETs and create some sort of galactic empire, but given what they're up against, it seems little more than a pipe dream of the PTB.

Also, considering there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of research on ways to get us beyond the orbit of the moon, even in what you hear in conspiratorial circles, it suggests that someone is out there who really doesn't want humanity there and has told the PTB that such long-range space travel is off limits.

I would also like to point out, in regards to #4, that while there may be no nuclear war "on the table" as such, it doesn't prevent a couple of loose cannons from going off when things really start to collapse. So ends my "critique."

I would also like to add a few of my own comments about the video. Overall, it seems to be more of the "preparation for global control" agenda delivered by those sources known for stark accuracy, when convenient.

There was an awful lot of babbling and noise in the first part of the video that didn't seem that relevant to the topic at hand. Then Bill seemed to waste quite a bit of time trying to build up Charles' character when it seemed pretty obvious to me that he was a psychopath or at least very heavily ponerized.

Based on the introduction, Bill doesn't seem to make this distinction and makes those vague, New Agey calls for the human family to join together and see what we can do together.

Charles states very clearly that there is no right and wrong, that people's morals get in the way of their success, and that he learned very early on just to do what needed to be done. The ends always justify the means.

He also states that he doesn't care whether the PTB's plans come to fruition or the people rebel. He's just there to "kick them (the 33) in the nuts" and "grab the next chair." In other words, he sees a weakness in the PTB, or perhaps was double-crossed, and wants to instigate a power struggle so that he can get a promotion, so to speak. This forms his whole motive forward.

He believes that population reduction is the only way to save the planet from destruction. He doesn't consider it mass murder, but again, "saving the planet."

At this point, I must wonder that if "the 33" are in possession of all of this wonderful technology, thousands of years more advanced, how it can be that there isn't something in their bag of tricks to increase nutrition, increase food production, and raise the general standard of living for everyone. This is where I think Charles starts to show his true purpose, which I'll get to in a minute.

Even his bit about cooperation doesn't seem to stem from any genuine sense of camaraderie, but from a common self-interest served by surviving the cataclysms and becoming part of the new master race, what he refers to as humanity 2.0.

The goal of the master race is to "greet the ETs and then go forth as crusaders." I think the choice of the word crusader is very interesting and very important.

Charles also seems to be very knowledgeable of common humanity's psychological weaknesses, and openly admits to preying on them during his work. He claims to be terminally ill and will die in the next couple of years, so that he has no interest in what becomes of this, but for some reason I find this claim suspicious or there's more to it than meets the eye. Perhaps if he can get his promotion, he can reconnect with the mysterious machine he interacted with and undo his condition???

So what was the purpose of Charles' little disclosure? Charles' psychopathic traits speak well in establishing the veracity of the video, because only someone like that could become a confidant of the PTB. However, I'm not convinced that Charles ever left their employment. I think that his little interview was designed to give selective and slightly skewed information rather than false or misleading information like Bill Ryan is probably on the lookout for and always suspecting in the back of his mind.

So after approaching this fairly well-adjusted journalist, and simply going around his fortifications by not BSing him, but not telling the whole truth either, he can take care of this little problem by turning it into a propaganda channel for the world the PTB want to create. I say this because Charles does not offer any creative solutions to the problem. His advice mainly boils down to, "look for a good place to survive the upcoming cataclysm, if you survive you will be taken care of when humanity 2.0 reestablishes order."

This type of thinking contributes nothing to the spiritual enlightenment of humanity, just a sort of implicit hoping to be part of "the chosen." Even if the audience doesn't really agree with the population reduction plan, the video is leading them into a survivalist dominated, preservation of the self at all costs meme which locks them into more STS oriented thought patterns. Acceptance of the population reduction becomes implicit because "hey, at least I made it and I can now enjoy the new utopia."

Such beings who toss aside their conscience and make all of these self-centered STS oriented decisions will make great crusaders for the STS harvest. The Reptoids can then come down and strip the PTB of their power rather quickly, and then we all become their crusaders.

If we had really turned the tables on the ETs, I think the concept of greeting them and going forth to conquer them would be pretty much a non-issue.

It seems this is what the Reptoids want their 3D lackeys to think, so that when the time comes, the PTB have done all of the legwork to create this army and then they swoop down and dethrone them and turn the survivors into their "new model" for conquest of all 4D realities.

Charles is reaching out to the people who are smart and strong, and for some reason have resisted all of the tricks to dumb them down and make them ignorant because they would make the greatest soldiers of all if they could be co-opted.

It is a very, very clever attempt to deceive even the very elect, as Laura wrote in her Christmas essay.

Bill Ryan, hems and haws and suggests that there must be another way, but he doesn't have the knowledge to know what it is, and Charles even challenges him to present it. It seems here that Charles is giving him a platform to talk to the PTB, but they all know that he doesn't know and can't provide a coherent argument to the well thought-out plan of the PTB. This provides more support to their argument and may even convince a few skeptics that the population reduction plan is a necessary evil. In this way, they can turn Bill Ryan's website into a mouthpiece for the Overlords of Entropy, even if that wasn't his intention.

The problem of Bill Ryan has been dealt with in a very clever way. The alternative solution of perfecting oneself and discerning the subtle influences emanating from the thought centers of being and non being so one can align with a reality where there is no need for scarcity and competition is simply incomprehensible.

Another interesting tidbit is that there is no mention of comets or an ice age during the interview. Charles talks about the binary system and some problems with the electrical due to solar activity around 2012, but he says it isn't going to be a major disaster. This also suggests to me that Charles has inherited the biases of the PTB and may still be under their direction because of what the Cassiopaeans said back in 1994.

Session941119 said:
: (T) Am I correct in assuming that some of these hot-shot, big-wig guys in the government who have plans for taking over the
whole world and making everything all happy and hunky-dory with them in charge, are just simply not in synch with the fact
that there are some definite earth changes on the agenda? Are they missing something here?
A: Close. They are aware but in denial.

Okay, so some of that is just opinion, but that's how it looks to me.


ADMIN NOTE: Spacing added for ease of reading.
 
Addendum: This was the first time I had heard of Bill Ryan, and I wrote the above with the assumption that he was a decent guy. I decided to do some background research here on the forum and learned how deeply involved he was with the disinfo circuit. While that doesn't really affect what I wrote above, since I was talking about Charles and the material and not Bill, it does perhaps reduce Charles to a low-level spinster whose purpose is to give Bill an air of credibility while facilitating his dissemination of nonsense. While it does not affect my perception of the material itself and its ultimate purpose, Charles' interaction with Bill seems more like the continuation of a trend rather than a novel and clever attempt to derail Project Avalon and its listeners; unless you're like me and trying to discern Bill's orientation from just one interview. Sorry for any subjective noisemaking.
 
I received an email from Kerry Cassidy about this interview. I haven't seen/listened to the interview itself due to lack of time/interest but I thought it was interesting that Kerry took the time and trouble to analyze this one.

Kerry Cassidy said:
Hi there,

I thought you should be aware of this... in case you have not been following our sites.

Below is the link to Bill's new interview, and to the avalon forum where he is posting a bit more now and then.

And my response... quite long but worth reading...

Kerry

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_http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10234-THE-RULERS-OF-THE-WORLD-A-new-Project-Avalon-video-interview

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My response also posted on the forum/my blog and articles on my site:

_http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

January 2, 2011

Notes on Rulers of the World interview

FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT

a review by Kerry Lynn Cassidy from Project Camelot of The Rulers of the World interview by Bill Ryan

May the best 'man' win? Is that where this is at? With the recent interview released by Bill Ryan the questions that arise are many.

According to a Source, 'Charles" is not telling the truth when he says the nuclear option is off the table. They substantiate this by referencing recent nuclear tests by France and clandestine nuclear tests that are likely going on underground in India and elsewhere. It is of course highly desirable that be the case. The shutdown of the minutemen missiles documented by Robert Salas and other recent disclosure witnesses at the National Press Club would seem to support this idea. The trouble is, the data is conflicting.

So what else about what is talked about in the interview with Charles, is questionable, in either the lack of clear information or the obfuscation of the material? The clearest statement seems to be in relation to the threat from GMO foods. The garnering of control over the seeds. But this is old news and well known in the alternative community. Monsanto and other companies have been working hard to push that agenda. The names of these companies are out there. Why the huge resistance and warning against stating the obvious? Of course who controls the seeds and the lack of heritage seeds in circulation obviously narrows the controls over those who produce the crops... And the dumbing down and weakening of immune systems and possibly a multitude of other detrimental effects all point to a very damning conclusion so much so that various European countries have simply banned the use of GMO seeds. Again this is known.

So what is going on here? This man appears to have had an interaction with some kind of AI or possibly mind control to where his original 'program' was modified so that he becomes more an agent provocateur than an outright assassin. Maybe this is just a natural trajectory. It stands to reason that bumping people off and making their lives miserable if they don't toe the line can be a very disheartening way to exist. It might even give one cancer or some incurable disease. Working for the dark side is not good for ones health it would appear.

But from what I know, this person, though it is not revealed on the screen, has gone through a kind of Jason Bourne type of experience... Where his insubordination was punished...yet he survived. From the interview we know that somehow he has managed to convince his handlers that turning him--using him to start a dialog with the 'alternative community' as we are called, is apparently considered a worthwhile exercise or experiment.

And so, he steps forward and does the interview with my partner in Camelot, Bill Ryan. To quote from my recent article called "Wikileaks: The Magus in Deep Black" ..."But those behind the scenes in this surveillance society, the ones who call themselves Magus, who manipulate the effects of the truly courageous actions of the bright stars, diamonds in the rough, under their Control, cannot be ignored. It is necessary that we go deeper into the black, what some would call, above black, to discover the real war being fought."

Indeed this is the real question. Unfortunately this recent interview does little to reveal anything more about the Controllers. The info about UFO's being shot down is also old news. No one, at least no one I know, believed they crossed solar systems to crash from mechanical failures! We know they have been shot down. Particle beam weapons, scaler technology, some early radar based, laser technology from Wilhelm Reich... this is all out there. Indeed the truth is out there. Even this witness agrees.

So what about the "laughter surrounding the 2012" issue? How can this remain a joke when in the next breath he talks about the uncontrollable Sun and the sensibleness of establishing an out of the way 'farm' to prepare for what the future may bring. Starvation is clearly part of the agenda... So storing food in underground bases, out of the way of the dreaded solar CMEs doesn't sound funny any longer. And of course this is what governments are also doing. Why is he contradicting himself one wonders. Unless of course one realizes that is the modus operandi for agents. There is obviously a recognition of the need to throw some truth into the mix, such as the binary system (yes we know this) and modular space craft (yes) in with misdirection and flattery.

So what is the flattery involved and what does it mean? Unfortunately, like any good love affair the implication is that Bill 'turned his head' and made him rethink his priorities. Of course as charming as Bill is, this is still too much to believe. And this is one of the glaring problems within the body of the piece. Acknowledged that it is lonely at the top or close to it, especially when one is a lone gunman.. Finding a fine rapport with an individual of good intellect is albeit encouraging and even gratifying. But does it change the agenda?

Bill states "'Charles has explained that the extraterrestrial race who initiated this project are letting everything unfold with a philosophy of non-interference." This is patently untrue. Evidence to the contrary is everywhere. It does not square with Bob Dean's assertion that the Anunnaki are walking the halls of the Pentagon. Presumably doing more than just 'strolling'. Or Wendell Stevens, the laudable researcher who recently passed on, and who, just before he died, said to his good friend, Bob Dean, that there is no doubt that the Anunnaki are ruling this Earth.

And so, we have what Charles is calling the "Fair contest". Sorry there is no fairness involved here. On the contrary. This game is rigged. Very much so. Since the beginning. Rule by secrecy is what they call it.

When Bill told me about his interaction with Charles I asked him to read a rather old and forgotten book but one that made a great impression on me when I was around 12. Yes, I was young and rather adventurous when it came to reading material. The book is called THE MAGUS by John Fowles. I encourage everyone who hasn't to read it before finding out what happens at the end. Because it is in the journey that one experiences the real effect. But suffice to say, that this mode of operation is how 'they' think. It may be found to be highly instructive when applied to the current drama between Bill and his friendly adversary turned protector.

So what then is the game? And who again, are the Controllers. One source has told me that discussing who they are is off-limits... So are they 33? Are they, as they are reported to consider themselves "pure human"? Or, much more likely, are they really pure reptilian-human hybrids from one branch of the Anunnaki?

Are they of angelic human lineage as described by Ashyana Deane? Unlikely, given they are the self-proclaimed rulers of this planet. Because what is clearer than most anything else is that angelic humans, those who came from off planet are certainly not the Controllers. The takeover by the present group happened back around the time of the altering of the DNA of humanity back in the 'deep abzu' according to the Sumerian tablets. The initial dumbing down. So this group of very wealthy rulers are not pure human at least in this sense, by any means. So that must be a 'cover'.

And where do they operate from? Certainly the City of London is one of their bases of operations. Another, I am told is the state of Israel. Recently, I was told that a major alternative media personality is working as an agent to redirect attention away from the Mossad and the state of Israel because this is an Anunnaki base of operations within the Middle East. Makes sense if you think about it. If they started as Sitchin says they did in Babylon then they aren't far from 'home' at least as far as an earthly sense of that word.

And, they said, this has nothing to do with the Jewish culture. The state of Israel was established as a place for the bankers to operate from, to launder money and one would extrapolate, to establish a stronghold in the Middle East in the center of the oil cartel... This is an interesting line of investigation. Of course, anyone who veers in this direction is instantly accused of being anti-semitic. What a great cover for a deep black operation. This, I am told has nothing to do with the Hasidic or traditional Jews.

Although, it does have to do with the Rothschilds. And the bankers. And ultimately, it is about bloodlines.. what kind of superman inhabits this planet and then, goes out and terraforms others.

If Bill has his wish and manages to get another interview with Charles, it is likely they will begin to sketch out the bloodline issue. But whether this explanation will bring us any closer to the truth is another matter.

Of course Mars has to be one of the more likely real home bases in this solar system at present. All the indicators point to this. The recent information we received regarding the Venture Star and the routine flights off planet from the underground base in Utah, near Dugway.. as the JPL website states... "the Utah Test & Training Range provides the largest overland contiguous block of restricted airspace in the continental United States authorized for supersonic flight, available for aircrew training and weapons testing." That's pretty clear. Room for 35 scientists on each flight, we were told. Very well.

It is a misdirection to say this group of 33 that Charles is referring to is not the "illuminati". The fact is, the philosophy of the illuminati, goes deeply into this group... It must. Because it's the occult philosophy that they clearly use to operate out of. For more on this, read the RA Material.

So what is behind the visit from the lone assassin who has supposedly turned the tables on his handlers and in return found he has tops 4 years to live as a result? Isn't it much more likely that any change of heart on his part (and I wouldn't rule this out, after all, Camelot was established for just such people, defectors, I call them... whistleblowers from the matrix who are coming over to our side. To the light.) But in vetting such a one, we must be careful. Because, as is clear here, this person, not unlike several we have dealt with, is working, even openly as a double-agent. He is reporting back to the 'other' side, while stating that Bill is safe, (and I assume myself) as long as he is alive. Although from the sound of things that would mean our days are 'numbered' as they say if this is true. But, as he says, let the best 'man' win, survival of the fittest... and so on. Let the games begin in other words. On this new round. At the start of 2011.

Note: none of the above is meant to detract from the strong interview conducted by Bill Ryan or the possibility that this man Charles is exactly who he claims to be. Although that is still an open question.

To continue, when Bill uses the opportunity to interview Charles as a platform to make a plea to the so-called 33 for the viability of a different approach to solving the problems on the planet and against their favorite eugenics program.. this is laudable, however quaint in its approach. The trouble is, one must know that they are well familiar with the arguments against. And as Charles says have considered all the options. Sure it doesn't hurt to use this unique opportunity to state the case again... however, I have to say, this ignores the fact that you are talking to the tiger itself, about its own tools in the toolbox, such as free energy and space travel capability probably 1000 years in advance of anything we know of in the public sector and asking if they will consider playing fair. After 1000s of years of doing the opposite, playing on their advantage (off-world advantage) using power in service to self for aeons one rather doubts that another momentary plea will stop them in their tracks or even alter the playing field in any way.

This is actually already an open dialog between the alternative community and 'this lot'. And the answer coming back has sadly been anything but inspiring. But, this does not detract from the fact that this interview, and this kind of dialog is a step in the right direction. One might as well have out with it. The trouble is, that the Controllers are still in hiding. And those who appear to be in charge are being managed. That much is certain. The evidence is everywhere.

So where does this leave us? On the trail of the Anunnaki... for one. No doubt about it. The trouble is, that in this layered game, there are many off-planet races involved. And each group seems to think they are the ones in charge.

Another interesting bit of information from another source tells me that the newest arrivals from 'outer space' are working with the Chinese. And that China is, as a result, building up their war machine at an unprecedented rate. The 'new guys' on the block are not friendly to the rest of us. And they are supplying China with the means to even the playing field. So much for the 'China is our savior' PR campaign that has had some success among the 'alternative community'.

On another note, from what I understand from still another source, Julian Assange may indeed be working for a certain side. And the question still remains when considering who one works for in this game, that what the agenda of the given player is, must be taken into consideration along with that of the group they play for. Because if one finds oneself in sympathy with the agenda of one side, say over another, and, in furthering the agenda of the group one works for one furthers one's own equally important agenda then where's the harm? I imagine this is what we have to consider when looking at the case of Julian Assange or anyone who has behind the scenes elected to work for any group.

What is troubling is when one considers that ones allegiances are often practical as well as limited by the amount of depth and understanding one brings to the big picture... ie. the playing field... in all its dimensions and aspects. This is unavoidable. Where are the blinders? What are the limits of knowledge or prejudice any one individual brings to the table when considering where to cast ones vote or take ones stand? And then, a certain degree of tolerance even kindness has to be brought to bear in understanding why one individual cast their lot in with one group vs. another. The path of light is often shrouded in illusion.

Therefore, the issue with respect to Charles and even Julian has to be: which group and what agenda?? This is where the labyrinth becomes daunting and intimidating in every respect. Because again as perhaps too often quoted and yet too often found to be true, as Hoagland says 'the lie is different at every level'. And what level are we talking about at any given time has to be taken into consideration. Especially when asking or answering a question.

It is instructive to know that information given to humans at this stage is done so with this in mind. And when considering the Galactic playing field the game changes at least from our perspective. This is where false flags such as Project Blue Beam a faked alien invasion aimed at uniting us as Reagan so wistfully put it 'against a common enemy' comes to the fore. And the trouble is, that while they spin this fake alien invasion scenario to certain ends, the real invasion, interference and yes, war, has been going on all along. It's just that many never take the time to look behind the curtain long enough to see it. Layers upon layers.

We are at the brink of a Brave New World indeed. As Corso said 'if you can take it'... and I would add, whether you can take it or not. Moving into this New Year, it is useful to survey the playing field and see where we stand.

Addendum

Ultimately, the question on this planet comes down to sovereignty and then the inheritors. Because all the bloodline secrecy and genetic manipulation has to ultimately result in a race of humanity 2.0 .... possibly even more than one resulting race. Those in control who wish to maintain their control are doing so using money (as energy) but their desired objective is clearly superman or as I have stated, robotic superman because it appears highly likely given their established penchant for technology ... that they will go the way of AI/robotics/biological androids rather than to simply let the human evolve into the highest order of beingness they are capable of.

The potential in our DNA indicates that we have built in capability to be so much more than what we are at present. But allowing that angelic human to manifest is slow in contrast to the manipulated hybrid option. Control of the line is unlikely to yield the best out of this mix... because in the end, it is not perfection we are after but impeccability. This is a profound distinction and one which seems to have been lost at least to those who wish to manipulate our genome.


January 4, 2010

Update on The Rulers of the World : their response to my response

Although I have very little information to go on, I have been told via Bill, who was told via Charles that my long response entitled Fighting the Good Fight (see below) has upset some of the group that Charles represents.

It should be noted that everything I said is already in the public domain (for the most part) and has been reported by me elsewhere in presentations and if not by me than by our Camelot witnesses and sources. It would appear that there is some value there.

my previous post:

January 1, 2011

The Rulers of the World - Bill Ryan's interview with the man sent to "deal" with him and Project Camelot (because we have become a problem)

Highly recommended.

The information here is not new for Camelot supporters. But it does give a slightly different angle on the same material. A look at the way a group who consider themselves the Controllers think and plan for the future. A game of cat and mouse that eventually gets round to substantiating the active threat from the sun, GMO seeds, plans for population elimination and the importance of certain bloodlines to their plans. Interstellar craft, bases on Mars and the moon... the reality of ET, plans for Project Blue Beam and underground bases here on Earth..this is all in there and given passing reference.

What is perhaps most interesting is what isn't said. Because of this individual's interaction with what appears to be AI ... the assassin decides not to take out his target... and instead engages in a dialog with him.

Note: Of course we know they tried to take us down.. first by helping make the split happen -- this didn't work because what was one problem then became two problems and because the so-called split wasn't permanent :-) Note: a supposedly separate group was sent to deal with me. But I was told, that a certain person stepped in on my behalf to stop that action.

One note: anyone who has paid attention knows that craft were shot down... and as a result crashed. There has been an ongoing war going on. The STS footage showing us shooting at one... is all over the net including here: (about 7 mins into my documentarty short entitled Have You Seen a UFO).


Kerry Lynn Cassidy
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because you can't classify something that doesn't exist."--Hawk Tales

I would say that Neil's take on it is pretty accurate.
 
Couple of points...
Kerry Cassidy on her blog has written two fairly long critics of Charles (first entitled “fighting the good fight”). She give all due respect to Bill, and then appears to have at him (Charles). I was happy to see Kerry go at him with a critical eye, yet Kerry seems to take all her whistleblowers as truth, and then tries to synthesize them, and I don’t go there; as one must sort out the chaff so to speak.

Isn’t that Charles?
Ok he turned his head from the camera, but the 33 with all their power couldn’t sort that out....”hey isn’t that the back of Charles head? Put on the voice analyzer...yep, check with his controller, where is he? Yep it’s him, why that dirty rat”. It’s just not believable to me that turning the chair would “save” him.

Terminally Ill:
I see no reason to start the interview with “I’m terminally ill” Bait for death bed confession...”certainly he is telling the truth!” No, no reason for that, except manipulation.

To misinform:
Charles said his first position was to meet, misinform Bill, than assist his demise. I think the misinform part is still correct.

Polishing each other’s egos:
Both Bill and Charles spent some time accrediting one another as the “doing the right thing guy” polishing one another’s egos, and giving each other creditability.

Bollocks on 2012?
I myself have been very suspicious of 2012 and Mayan Calendar, but for him to say “bollocks” fools who go there (and if Bill was actually talking to the tiger as Kerry pointed out) why completely blow that time period off? Then he turned around and said, big changes coming, binary stars, underground cities everywhere etc, so doesn’t the 2012 (general timeframe) speak to something?

Father saving the son:
Charles spoke of a father saving a son in a freezing river, but couldn’t get to the other son further out in the flow as an explanation of the 33s dealings with humanity’s culling. Hard decision but right action...but he then talks about how the 33 when seeing “us” struggle to understand the truth that they light their cigars and laugh at us...? Doesn’t sound like a loving father doing the right thing...?

No nukes?
Because they don’t want to hurt the environment? But how about nukes in the past! Rainforest! Gulf oil spill?? Bollocks on that statement! Later in the interview in reference to nukes he says, hey anything “could” happen....? Ok, so which is it...is it? A crap shoot, or are they “in control”?

Nothing new:
Example; he said don’t dare talk about the big food/seed companies or you’ll really get in hot water....but that is everywhere being discussed and has been for some time, as is everything that was brought up. So what was the interview for?

These are some points I am considering as to "why" did he say them. Forget 2012, and all time frames. The controllers are ok guys just doing the right thing by culling the herd. You are completely out matched. The 33 want to preserve the planet. Omission of global cooling, gulf oil spill and planet destruction. Hiding out on an island or farm in the hills is a good idea. He’s telling us all this because he wants a “fair contest”....?
 
clif appears to had to comment on this video as well
( you guys know i have an interest in clifs work
at halfpasthuman.com

recent article posted .

Nice doggie, there Bill...try again...you can learn this trick, we know you can...

In the past there have been a few times where it has made some sense to
post a note on current events. This note is not about what is happening
in the msm/propaganda press (who cares about scripted 'news' anyway),
but rather, because there have been several emails, is in response to the
'whistleblower' labeled 'charles' who has recently been featured on Bill
Ryan's Project Avalon web site. Having taken the time to watch, and
mainly listen as charlies face was absent from the vid, the impression
bubbles up is "eh, so what?". The inconsistencies within charlies'
statements, and his obviously limited grasp of reality (note he is
convinced that the lying scum 33/thirty three 'rulers of the world' who
are his employers would not dare lie to him, their dirty deeds specialist),
do not support his story. The language used throughout the video is yet
more hype, and no delivery. Given the total lack of any relevant
information, it begs the question of 'why' produce and release this wet
noodle of a video?

It would seem that Bill Ryan has heard the criticism as he has released
a video on YouTube in which he attempts to supply a 'back story' as to
why this is, yet-again, his most important work ever, and indeed, why
any of the 'alternative media' should give a shit about charles and his
rather old news concern over GMO foods. Yes, every human should
be seriously concerned about the evils being wrought by the GMO
foods corporations, but, again...way old news.

However, my real bitch with Bill is not the charles video, but rather his
follow-up release on YouTube. In watching this video, a couple of
things jump right out. First is the blink rate that Bill has and its
association to what he is saying at that moment. Blink rates are a key
'discomfort tell' that bring up warning flags to the viewer about the
message being sent. The blinking and other vocal tension tells are so
prevalent through out the video that one could be forgiven if they
momentarily thought that they were watching the infamous Dan Burisch
on any of his videos. But, if it were only that, it would be easy to pass on
and ignore yet another 'historic' and 'ground breaking' and 'mega
important' video from Bill Ryan. But, and you knew it was coming,
there is more.

At the core of the Bill Ryan video is the message that IF we common
people reading alternative media are 'smart enough', and 'diligent
enough' to 'learn the lesson' that the 'rulers of the world' are trying to
teach us, why, we will then prove ourselves worthy of being their
obedient pets. Ok, so Bill does not actually put it in quite those words,
but the basic message of the video is that Bill Ryan, whom we could
hereafter refer to as 'the anointed one' as he was chosen to represent all
of the unruly dogs to the 'rulers of the world', will be our conduit to our
'betters'. Just listen to the language, especially from 47minutes and 33
seconds (hmmmm 33 seconds, curious) onward. The message is quite
clear....."if we are honorable (note the hidden sub texts involved such as
just who shall judge us to be honorable?)", if we 'pick up the ball
quickly enough" (hmmm..doesn't one teach their dogs to fetch with
balls?), ..."if we respond in a way that is regarded as being
appropriate"...(hmmm, again, who shall judge our 'appropriate-
ness'?)....and then, and only then, will 'we will be
respected"....(hmmm...by our "betters?")...."then we will earn
more"...(hmm...just like good pets, eh Bill?).

But, then there is the other side of the relationship, according to Bill
Ryan as he lists the 'thou shalt nots' in the relationship....(47:51) Of
course, like good little pets we are admonished to 'chew it down'
(regardless of the taste).

Bill then closes by stating that he does not know if we 'deserve' to learn
more. Huh? What the FUCK?!

Again, WTF? Deserve to learn more?!?

Well, being an unruly pet to TPTW has always worked out for me....and
there is no reason presented by BR that alters my approach. Fuck'em. In
case the anointed one has missed it, challenge IS at the core of life.
And it just so happens that any rulers of the world WILL BE
CHALLENGED until they all fall. Sic semper tyrannis, eh dude?

So, stay tuned? Will Bill Ryan be granted an 'audience' with the 'rulers
of the world' like a good little pet?

Language uber alles, Bill....and the WHOLE of your video condenses
down to the message from these "rulers" as 'be nice doggies and maybe
we can play fetch later"....if you do not think my conclusions accurate,
then kindly show me where there is language in that video that does not
go to this point.

Ok, so many may think that this criticism of BR is too harsh. And
perhaps with some justification, after all (no offense to free thinkers
here) Bill is British and thus has been raised and indoctrinated to 'tip the
hat', and 'bend the knee' to his 'betters'...aka "the bloodline
people"...(also note how Bill says that in his video's...with internal
acceptance that is a bit chilling)....so the idea that Bill does not know
any other way to react when they push his internal buttons does have
some validity. And it can be granted that he is doing the best he can
with a still intact 'slave mind' overlay on his consciousness.

Harsh. Yes, mea culpa, but we live in a harsh universe, and one needs to
practice discernment of mind. Personally, this is a continuous struggle
for old bald guys such as myself. Probably because it is a core pursuit, it
puzzles me to not see it in other old bald guys. Oh, well, pretty sure i
have gotten it all wrong again and will be told so incessantly.

However, Bill is not known for his gentle treatment of myself or my
work, and in spite of that, my concern for his health, and mental well
being is genuine, and if he feels that any criticism made herein is not
justified, it is likely we will all know about it soon.

In closing, NO Bill, explicitly you are not being called a dog in this
posting. Rather my concern is that your words are damaging at so many
levels that they needed to be addressed. Again, any irritation expressed
here is toward the message, but of a necessity the context of the
message must also be examined in these days of rampant deception and
disinformation.

And being an old raspy dog of universe, it is easy to recognize when
someone is telling me " nice doggie...try again..you can learn this
trick...we know you can"...and which brings instantly to mind an old
motto of mine....

i am a dog who gnaws his bone.
i sit here, in my repose, gnawing alone.
There will come a day, which is not yet,
when I will bite him, by whom i am bit.

My apologies to the original French for the paraphrasing translation.

This is not an anti Bill Ryan rant. My bitch is with the language that he is trying to push out and lay upon the alternative media community. Since i count myself in that group, i choose to respond this way to his words. Get that....it is his language that is rasping on my bones, not him. In point of fact, i have an open invitation to Bill Ryan to come and sail with me in Q'oki-oki and to gnaw on universe together. He is free to video, but if he does, so will i. Should he accept, i would also ask questions, so it would be an exchange, and not an interview. This invitation is still open, and i hope he is not offended by my critique of his language. If i were to use language as he has in this video, i would greatly appreciate someone beating my head with it...a 'hey dude! WTF, eh?'. My point is to encourage Bill (and everyone reading) to examine their own assumptions and views of universe which continuously leak out in their words...in this case, not so much a leak but a flood...(watch that word...AU is not the end of it by any means, but that is for another report), and here we need to end with a very clear statement to Bill Ryan. In spite of how you may receive my words in criticism of yours, i do not mean any disrespect of you, the human. But i do invite you to review your own video and then debate my conclusions about what is actually on view to universe.
. . ...... clif january 10 . 2011
 
Very interesting, crazycharlie. Cliff is such a bright guy and sees pretty well as far as he goes. I guess he doesn't recognize the signs that Bill Ryan is - in my opinion - a programmed "useful idiot".
 
Thank you everyone for the awesome input on the new Bill Ryan interview. I just watched the video this morning and logged on here to see if anything was written about it and was not disappointed! :) Basically, I am a new student of all the new information and have been learning bits and pieces about who is who and what is what and it takes quite some time to absorb and wade through the mountain of interviews and material out there. Not to mention trying to weed out the lies webbed with truth or vice versa. If not for Kerry Cassidy and Project Camelot, I would never had heard of Laura and the Cassiopaeans. And like Laura wrote about the interview: Why was there no mention of the coming Ice Age and Comets? I wondered the same thing when Bill took up that line of questioning. Interesting though, while reading what Kerry has written regarding Bill Ryan and 'Charles', she makes the case for Bill to reread 'The Magus' by John Fowles. I read that book about 35 years ago and it is a fascinating read. Thank you again for the valuable input.
 
I just had time to go and watch this and read the threads over there. I agree with the assesment here that " Charles" is psychopathic or heavily ponerized.

The interesting thing to me, more so than the video, is the effect " Charles" has had on the forum over there. Two camps exist now- the ones who basically agree with us, and the ones who are buying into the schizoid declarations. It seems a lot of members are leaving. For anyone here that has never seen an example of this to go with the explanations in political ponerology, this is a good chance . The " normal" humans are the ones leaving- standard ponerization process.

Here is the section of the forum dedicated to " Charles" -http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?98-RULERS-OF-THE-WORLD-The-CHARLES-material

It does make me very happy to see many discerning people throughout the threads injecting information on psychopathy and " blame the victim" mentality. I'm guessing many Cass members , or readers, also post there. ;D
 
I am just now reading this thread and have a ways to go to finish it, but wanted to say real quick that the Magus by Fowles is an outstanding literary work in my opinion and does have many appropriate analogies to the Work and reality. I consider this to be his best work. I also think the Dune series by Herbert tapped into something atavistic and has many useful descriptions, veiled of course, of the reality we live in.
 
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