Nothing new in the video that I could see. What is it that you think they revealed?The New York Times' take on the D.C. air disaster may reveal something overlooked.
Nothing new in the video that I could see. What is it that you think they revealed?The New York Times' take on the D.C. air disaster may reveal something overlooked.
US airlines had gone 16 years without fatal crashes.
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) February 6, 2025
Then MAGA fired the FAA chief, gutted the Aviation Security Advisory Committee, and threatened air traffic controllers with layoffs.
Now there have been two fatal crashes.
Hope your unvetted 22-year-olds fix things fast. pic.twitter.com/kxss1jPjgf
The pilots saw the heli at the last second. They pulled up but it was too late.Yes, the plane's pilots couldn't see the helicopter because the plane was turning to the left, and the helicopter was coming from the right.
Probably. NTSB told press that the ADSB was disabled in the heli, but that appears to be DOD standard (which is crazy for training missions). I've thought similarly as you, if the heli was on remote, wouldn't the crew see and say something to ATC? The last communication between them was like 30 seconds before impact, confirming visual.However, a military helicopter should have sensors, including radars, for approaching objects like missiles and birds. It doesn't look like an exotic technology and I'd imagine it's a prerequisite for a vehicle supposed to protect government VIPs in case of an emergency/attack. Disabled?
Yes, the plane's pilots couldn't see the helicopter because the plane was turning to the left, and the helicopter was coming from the right.
Could they be jammed, disabling their comm to reach anybody?
You mean like somebody from 'outside' might have imitated the heli crew in comm with the ATC?Spoofed, IMO.
You mean like somebody from 'outside' might have imitated the heli crew in comm with the ATC?
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That would be an interesting possibility.
And the original heli crew's comm, redirected? Or were they incapacitated in some way to prevent them from jumping out of the heli when they saw the collision was imminent?
If they could take over the flying controls, guess "locking" the doors to prevent exiting would not be much harder thing to do.The same people flying it.
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It's one theory...
I think mkrnhr's talking about the pilots of the passenger jet.At no time would the UH-60 have not seen it.
I think mkrnhr's talking about the pilots of the passenger jet.
Data recovered from the American Airlines plane and Army helicopter crash in DC revealed a key discrepancy in their altitude readings that may offer an explanation for the tragedy that left 67 dead.
The National Transportation Safety Board revealed that preliminary data from the Black Hawk helicopter and passenger jet showed conflicting readings about their altitudes at the time of the catastrophic collision.
Data from the passenger jet’s flight recorder showed its altitude as 325 feet, plus or minus 25 feet, when the crash happened Wednesday night. Data in the control tower, though, showed the Black Hawk helicopter at 200 feet at the time.
The 100-foot discrepancy is yet to be explained, but if the impact did occur at 325ft, the crash would have occurred well-above the maximum allowed altitude of 200ft for helicopters in the area.
The pilots saw the heli at the last second. They pulled up but it was too late.
Probably. NTSB told press that the ADSB was disabled in the heli, but that appears to be DOD standard (which is crazy for training missions). I've thought similarly as you, if the heli was on remote, wouldn't the crew see and say something to ATC? The last communication between them was like 30 seconds before impact, confirming visual.
I am not sure, but sometimes, a clue can be subtle. Thanks for your observation.Nothing new in the video that I could see. What is it that you think they revealed?
See comments here:Do you have links for this?
Army Helicopter’s Tracking Technology Turned Off at Time of Crash: "there was no compelling national security reason for ADS-B to be turned off"
by u/WildVelociraptor in ADSB
In 2019, the FAA issued a rule that allows the military broad discretion on when they disable ADS-B Out. They make considerable use of that discretion according to plane spotters who report that military aircraft often fail to be depicted on any of the major ADS-B tracking websites.