Bombers may use 'pregnancy prosthetics'

hkoehli said:
I think Joe and Telperion both have good points. Suicide bombing is a "new" phenomenon. From logical perspective it only makes sense that Israel invented it as a mini-false-flag strategy. However, I agree with Telperion that there are probably many Palestinians who are so traumatized, oppressed, depressed, and angry that they feel suicide bombing would be a way to both end a life of misery and make a statement against their oppressors. Remember that most Palestinians are as much a victim to the suicide bomber propaganda as Westerners. In other words, while they may not understand it, they believe other Palestinians are actually choosing suicide bombing as a method of resistance. In such an environment, suicide bombing becomes an "option", even if it is entirely manufactured by Mossad. Due to Mossad's complete infiltration/surveillance of resistance groups, it's likely that whenever someone shows an interest in giving their lives and getting revenge in the process, Mossad knows about it and exploits it. I wouldn't be surprised if they never even let such individuals fulfill their desire. They probably just murder them when they don't expect it with a pre-placed bomb, calling it a suicide bombing after the fact.
It is incorrect to suggest, without qualification, that some Palestinians or Iraqis are so traumatized, oppressed, depressed, and angry that they feel suicide bombing would be a way to both end a life of misery and make a statement against their oppressors. The required qualification is that these traumatized Iraqis and Palestinians would NEVER resort to suicide bombing if it was not presented to them as a reasonable and viable possibility, and it would, IMO, NEVER be presented to them as a possibility by any real resistance leaders. Making that qualification effectively nullifies the original statement that "some Palestinians or Iraqis are so traumatized, oppressed, depressed, and angry that they feel suicide bombing would be a way to both end a life of misery and make a statement against their oppressors."

Remember, even if ordinary Palestinians and Iraqis did somehow decided that the best way to attack their oppressor was to blow themselves up, they would lack the means to develop and carry out their plan. In short, "Palestinian and Iraqi suicide bombing" DOES NOT EXIST in the way that the term is promoted and understood by Western governments and media, and this is true also in the case that a real life Palestinian or Iraqi actually does blow himself up in an attempt to attack his oppressor.

It seems most people are just not able to fathom how deeply malicious and deceptive the conspiracy is. Try and remember, the pathocrats do not settle for a little deception, rather they are, in their own words, "creating reality". Now think about that for a while, and then consider the problems in attempting to combat it. We are not simply talking about exposing lies here, we are talking about having to show how an apparently observable reality is a lie.

Joe
 
Exactly. The only reason it even exists as on "option" is because it was "created" by Israeli pathocrats, not by any real resistance. It was never a strategy of the PLO, who offered real resistance. But once artificially introduced, I don't see why the pathological (ponerogenic) elements of the "resistance" wouldn't adopt and exploit such methods. Some will be working with Mossad, some not. We have to keep in mind that there are elements in any resistance that have goals diametrically opposed to those of the majority.
 
Telperion said:
to illustrate the point are the following links

_http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208552.pdf

_http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/csmhi/suicide-bomber-psychology.pdf

_http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/127 (amazing propaganda!)
The second link above is a paper by Vamik D. Volkan a "Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry" at the Virginia University School of Medicine and it is a lesson in how today's intelligentsia are utterly incapable of independent thought. Following the example of the pathocrats, Volkan starts out by accepting the false thesis that suicide bombing is a real phenomenon and then goes about finding "evidence" to support it. The US and British and Israeli governments do exactly the same thing in "fixing facts around the policy", most notably in the case for the Iraq invasion.

In all the utter nonsense that Volkan writes, he accidentally stumbles on the truth but is unable to recognise it. He states:

Vamik D. Volkan said:
Islamic schools for children and youth are not a new phenomenon in the Middle East or in other Muslim countries such as Pakistan. They have existed since the beginning of Islam.

What is different in modern Pakistani madrassas is that they include training in the service of future violence. Such madrassas existed in Pakistan before Osama bin Laden arrived in neighboring Afghanistan and before the Taliban, for practical purposes, took control of the entire country.

The teaching in these madrassas was influenced by Deobandi and Wahabi versions of extreme religious “ideology”(Rashid, 2000). At this time, the training of mostly poor children who attended these madrassas was similar to the training of the Middle Eastern Islamic suicide bombers.

The children read the Quran in Arabic for years, but since they did not know Arabic, they had to accept the “interpretation” given to them by their teachers. When they read in Urdu, they were told that the Urdu letter “jeem” stood for jihad; “kaaf” for Kalashnikov, and “khy” for khoon (blood) (Ali, 2001).

These were the madrassas funded by the United States and Britain to raise mujahideen to fight the Soviets. The Saudis provided more funds for the expansion of Wahabism. The “graduates” of these madrassas would later create a foundation on which the Taliban and al-Qaeda could stand.
That's the answer in its simple form. The US and Britain funded madrasses and their peculiar teachings that gave rise to "suicide bombings".

Joe
 
Here's how its done:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/02/14/iraq.main/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

U.S. military: Al Qaeda in Iraq seeks female patients as bombers

Al Qaeda in Iraq is recruiting female patients at Baghdad's two psychiatric hospitals for suicide missions -- with the help of hospital staff -- according to the U.S. military.

The U.S. military believes al Qaeda in Iraq has operatives within the hospitals' staffs who are passing on patients' files and contact information to the militant group, a senior U.S. military official said, requesting anonymity.

The apparent recruiting effort came to light this month when Iraqi officials said that two female bombers in deadly pet market attacks in Baghdad that left nearly 100 dead were mentally challenged. [...]

The Iraqi government said both women were mentally challenged and had Down syndrome.

Joda said that the 35-year-old patient had the facial characteristics of Down syndrome but that she had not been diagnosed with the chromosomal disorder.

The woman, who was 35 and married, was diagnosed with schizophrenia and depression, according to her file.

The patient, who was first treated in December, complained of voices in her head, Joda said.

"They say, 'Go commit suicide,' " Joda said, reading from the woman's file. " 'Go kill yourself. ... Why do you live?' "
Give it a few years and it will be a "fact" that handicapped Muslim women are pre-disposed to being suicide bombers. Interestingly enough, there's a tentative link between retarded Iraqi women and a few notable young American males: both sometimes hear voices in their heads that tell them to kill people...and both have indirect (or perhaps direct) relationships with the American military.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=8218&p=1

I'm going to write CNN's headlines from now on. Here's the first one:

"'al-qaeda in Iraq' seeks to provide the US govt. with an endless supply of justifications for it's brutal policy of mass murder."

Joe
 
Joe said:
The woman, who was 35 and married, was diagnosed with schizophrenia and depression, according to her file.
The connection between people with mental illnesses and terrorist acts seem to gain strength.
Anyone with symptoms such as these ones could be another "human bomb".
Their version of medicated happiness is way more scary than any depression could be osit.

Thank you Joe for your articles by the way.
 
Tigersoap said:
Joe said:
The woman, who was 35 and married, was diagnosed with schizophrenia and depression, according to her file.
The connection between people with mental illnesses and terrorist acts seem to gain strength.
Anyone with symptoms such as these ones could be another "human bomb".
Their version of medicated happiness is way more scary than any depression could be osit.

Thank you Joe for your articles by the way.
Yes, and I'm starting to notice a frightening parallel between mental illness, medication and the 'random' shootings taking place with increasing frequency here in the USA. It would be great if SOTT could pull together these threads as well, there is clearly something going on.
 
Looks like they are moving to consolidate this meme in the public mind:

Iraq says mentally disabled will be removed from streets

Associated Press - February 19, 2008 2:43 PM ET

BAGHDAD (AP) - Iraq's government is trying to get beggars and mentally disabled people off the streets of Baghdad.

The fear is that these people could be used by insurgents as suicide bombers.

Two female bombers were used in attacks on pet markets in Baghdad earlier this month, killing nearly 100 people. Iraqi and U.S. officials have said the women were mentally disabled, and that they were apparently unwitting bombers. Iraqi authorities said photos of the bombers' heads purportedly showed that the women had Down syndrome.

A spokesman for Iraq's Interior Ministry says the people who are rounded up will be given shelter and care. He says the plan will be implemented across Iraq.
 
Joe said:
Looks like they are moving to consolidate this meme in the public mind:

Iraq says mentally disabled will be removed from streets
Interesting - look what just came across on AP (probably the full article ?) - seems to be a lot of confusion about the 'down syndrome' - and a lot of energy put into denying the 'down syndrome' - but accentuating mental illness and links to al qaida -- put enough confusion out there while repeating 'down syndrome' - and repeating mental illness and al qaida and the meme gets across no matter what.

AP said:
US: Bombers didn't have Down syndrome

By BRADLEY BROOKS, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 27 minutes ago

BAGHDAD - The U.S. military said Wednesday that two women used as suicide bombers in attacks earlier this month had undergone psychiatric treatment but there is no indication they had Down syndrome as Iraqi and U.S. officials initially had claimed.


Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, a military spokesman, said the women used in the Feb. 1 pet market bombings had been identified as residents from the northeastern outskirts of Baghdad who were in their late 20s or early 30s.

The two attacks killed nearly 100 people, and Iraqi and U.S. officials said at the time the women appeared to be unwitting attackers.

Lt. Gen. Abboud Qanbar, the chief Iraqi military commander in Baghdad, said soon after the attacks that photos of the women's heads showed they had Down syndrome, but he did not offer any other proof.

A U.S. military spokesman for the Baghdad area, Lt. Col. Steve Stover, also said at the time that medical experts with his division had examined the photos and agreed the women probably suffered from the genetic disorder. "They were both females and they both looked like they had Down syndrome," Stover said on Feb. 2.

A cell phone image of one of the heads viewed by The Associated Press was inconclusive.

There was speculation that the heads could have been distorted by the blast, leading police initially to believe they had Down syndrome.

On Wednesday, Smith backed away from the claim about Down syndrome while responding to a question concerning the psychiatric histories of the two bombers.

"Both had recently received psychiatric treatment for depression and/or schizophrenia. From what we know now there's no indication that they had Down syndrome," Smith said, citing records obtained by the military.

Smith also said one of the women was married but that neither had criminal backgrounds. He said it was not clear how they were linked to al-Qaida in Iraq, which the military has said was behind the bombing.

The director of the Ibn-Rushd psychiatric teaching hospital in central Baghdad, Dr. Shalan al-Abboudi, said that one of the pet market bombers, a 36-year-old married woman, had been treated there for schizophrenia and depression, according to her file. Refusing to identify her, he said she received electric shock therapy and was released into the custody of an aunt.

Smith did not address other details of the bombings. Iraqi officials have said the explosives were detonated by remote-control, presumably because people with Down syndrome could not be relied upon to set off the bombs.

The U.S. military and the Iraqi government have claimed that Sunni insurgents led by al-Qaida in Iraq are increasingly trying to use Iraq's most vulnerable populations as suicide bombers to avoid raising suspicions or being searched at checkpoints that guard access to many markets, neighborhoods and bridges in the capital.

The pet market attacks led Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to call al-Qaida in Iraq "the most brutal and bankrupt of movements."

On Tuesday, the Iraqi Interior Ministry ordered police to begin rounding up beggars, homeless and mentally disabled people from the streets of Baghdad and other cities to prevent insurgents from using them as bombers.

The people detained in the Baghdad sweep will be handed over to social welfare institutions and psychiatric hospitals that can provide shelter and care for them, according to the ministry.

It is not clear, however, that such people would be safe in psychiatric hospitals. American and Iraqi troops recently detained the acting director of the al-Rashad psychiatric hospital in eastern Baghdad on suspicion of helping supply patient information to al-Qaida in Iraq.

Police in central Baghdad detained eight beggars, three women and five men Wednesday, but they found few other street people a day after the campaign was announced, an officer said.

The officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release the information, said a joint committee of police and social welfare officials will decide what to do with those taken into custody. Those considered beggars could be allowed to go home with relatives after signing a written pledge promising not to pander in the future, the officer said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080220/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_bombers
 
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