Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel
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Noticed that in Trumps speech at the end he also appeared to basically spill the beans already what next steps he would/could take: There are many targets they can hit with a similar strategy: Short, limited and being done in a matter of minutes. Also he claims by implication that this one was the most lethal of those possibilities. Further it is noteworthy that he pointed out that this basically eliminated “the threat“.
Which all tells me that this could give the Iranians a “good read“ on what Trumps plans and/or intentions are: Try not to escalate anything and stopping any idea of real war, even if they don’t coordinate with Iran behind the scenes. Which brings up the question: Can the Iranians count on any such stated intentions by Trump or not and/or is there in some way more of “a show“ involved, maybe even parts of Iranian leadership being part of it?
IMO it seems like Trump isn’t willing to further escalate at all and would like to concentrate on problems at home.
I feel the same. Indeed it seems like Trump wanted a bombing he could claim was a great victory and then call it quits, hopefully appeasing the Israelis and intimidating the Iranians. However, the Israelis, necons and zionists around him want regime change leading to the destruction of Iran, similar to what happened to Syria and Libya, and this is their opportunity. So even if Iran retaliates in only a measured (symbolic) manner (and I think they will), those people will demand Trump hits back and 'finishes the job'. If he resists, or the common people protest too much, then perhaps we'll see the false flag. But so far Trump hasn't resisted at all. He sounds happy to be center stage. In short, I think this will escalate, and if Trump thought this move would spare him more trouble, I think he miscalculated 'biggly'. But again, perhaps he never had a choice.
Like it or not, but it seems like Trump is still the main person that is preventing a real war to break out here. I would bet the Psychos of the likes of Biden, Obama and Bush would have started a real and devastating war immediately, a long time ago, if confronted with the same situation, with no qualms or restrictions at all.
SOTTREADER
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Just waking up to the news. Having read the comments over the night, it looks like this was a limited strike formally introducing the US to the conflict. Taking a pessimistic view, I think this is just the US testing the defence of Iran. My bet is they continue to escalate the attacks.
Bibi won't accept anything but a full invasion of Iran by the US and Trump is completely in his pocket.
Also I think US special forces are probably in Iran running black ops as we speak. How do we know none were air dropped overnight?
I read somewhere that the US has like 80,000 special forces nowadays and those guys are certified crazy.
Bibi won't accept anything but a full invasion of Iran by the US and Trump is completely in his pocket.
Also I think US special forces are probably in Iran running black ops as we speak. How do we know none were air dropped overnight?
I read somewhere that the US has like 80,000 special forces nowadays and those guys are certified crazy.
The Iranians have almost 1 million soldiers. Crazy only does so much. Putting ground troops in Iran would not go well.
axj
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For whatever reason, the Democrats have been always much more accomodating towards Iran. Whoever was running the Biden administration apparently did not want the US to attack Iran. Maybe that too would have come eventually if Trump lost.
I think a likely outcome right now is some more back and forth of missile attacks for maybe a couple weeks. By then even the Israelis will be interested in a ceasefire due to a lack of air defense rockets. And if Scott Ritter is right, Iran already inflicted something like $500 billion in damage to Israel. Another week or two and that figure will be even more astronomical.
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
I think we will know over the next few days whether this is a one and done thing or not. Let's not forget America has moved and is moving quite a few assets into position which should be a major data point indicating their long-term intentions.
We also know we basically can't trust anything Trump says - he flip flops consistently. We also know he's basically surrounded by Zionists, including in his family household.
Here's an interesting fact about the Iraq war - Iraq had about 300,000 soldiers and America only went in with 100,000 soldiers. Usually the invading force needs to have more men by a ratio of 3 to 1 but they didn't. It was the air superiority and that Iraq was basically a flat desert that allowed the US to take it with fewer men - the military takeover of Iraq only took 3 weeks. What America then did was fire the whole government, police etc thereby ensuring the society could not function. The bombing also took out water plants and other critical infrastructure for the civilian population.
I am only saying the above as I read somewhere the neocons will be feeding Trump a story whereby the military can be decisive and fast if he gives them the greenlight. Iran won't have time to react or coordinate a response. That's the likely story Trump is getting fed.
We also know we basically can't trust anything Trump says - he flip flops consistently. We also know he's basically surrounded by Zionists, including in his family household.
Here's an interesting fact about the Iraq war - Iraq had about 300,000 soldiers and America only went in with 100,000 soldiers. Usually the invading force needs to have more men by a ratio of 3 to 1 but they didn't. It was the air superiority and that Iraq was basically a flat desert that allowed the US to take it with fewer men - the military takeover of Iraq only took 3 weeks. What America then did was fire the whole government, police etc thereby ensuring the society could not function. The bombing also took out water plants and other critical infrastructure for the civilian population.
I am only saying the above as I read somewhere the neocons will be feeding Trump a story whereby the military can be decisive and fast if he gives them the greenlight. Iran won't have time to react or coordinate a response. That's the likely story Trump is getting fed.
If true, wouldn’t surprise me:
Clearly a lot of people and states in the region would be very unhappy (furious) if a chernobyl type disaster happens, which of course includes many of the hyper rich states like Saudi Arabia that are “friends“ with Trump. It could also lead to serious economic problems worldwide. So naturally, I would imagine that Trump is trying to avoid triggering something like that as best as possible.
Clearly a lot of people and states in the region would be very unhappy (furious) if a chernobyl type disaster happens, which of course includes many of the hyper rich states like Saudi Arabia that are “friends“ with Trump. It could also lead to serious economic problems worldwide. So naturally, I would imagine that Trump is trying to avoid triggering something like that as best as possible.
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
There's an offensive on social media towards Iranians. Quite a few talking heads appear to be working for the machine and have been given specific talking points. I have noted a pattern whereby they first acknowledge how amazing average everyday Iranians are, and that it's their government that's the problem.
Patrick Bet-David is an interesting one in this regard but I am noticing other channels appear e.g.
Here's an AI summary of the conclusion from above video:
Patrick Bet-David is an interesting one in this regard but I am noticing other channels appear e.g.
Here's an AI summary of the conclusion from above video:
I would guess that all the US military equipment will stay in the region at least for a while, to “show force“. Thereby both reassuring the Israeli crazies and “keep pressure“ on Iran. Yes, it screams for some kind of false flag and/or sneaky maneuvering by the real powers in the shadows to further escalate and once again push Trump and/or the US into action. As long as Trump “has the say“ I think even repeated actions of that kind will tend to be fairly limited and more for show than anything else.
The wild card seems to be how far the crazies will take any such sneaky attempts. Quite far would be either a hefty false flag of some description, possibly involving loosing American lives, and/or taking Trump out, both of which could very well open pandora’s box. Another wild card is the Iranian response to illegal things, like the ones that have just happened with this bombing.
The wild card seems to be how far the crazies will take any such sneaky attempts. Quite far would be either a hefty false flag of some description, possibly involving loosing American lives, and/or taking Trump out, both of which could very well open pandora’s box. Another wild card is the Iranian response to illegal things, like the ones that have just happened with this bombing.
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