EmeraldR
The Living Force
I do with those who live in in Iran;) and I think its unfair to say Kurds are mainly usa /israeli agents - thats just not true - yes some maybe but not most !!!
Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel
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Deneb
Jedi
Deneb
Jedi
no problem, topic are to discuss, if we don't confront ideas we will never hone our knowledge
Even the excessive inflation and lower living standards is a direct consequence of Western actions and as far as I understand it there's not much Iran can actually do to avoid either. The system is rigged intentionally to damn the Iranian people no matter what.
Their current government has problems of competence and a culture that has a lot of ponerized elements. However, there's no replacing it without it becoming a Western puppet regime.
So it's either suffer the current unnecessarily harsh economic conditions (which are still manageable for most people, or so it seems), or receive temporary economic reprieve at the expense of long-term sustainability by embracing rule by actual terrorists.
It sucks and I hate it for them but the Iranian people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Though the bright side is that it really could be much worse.
The Kurds are an actual people, though. They weren't created using fictitious differences and distinctions.
Yes, they as a collective have been used politically by the US and Israel but that doesn't justify collective punishment or treating someone who identifies themself as a Kurdish Iranian or whatever with contempt.
Save such scorn for those who deserve it, like Israeli settlers or Mossad agents.
A person that fights their country, as you put it, from afar is a very particular kind of person. Not all expats are misinformed about their home country. Whether or not someone is misinformed about their home country depends on whether or not they're actually paying attention.
In fact, not paying attention and therefore not having a very well-informed opinion is probably a contributing factor leading such people to leave their home country in the first place.
Maybe next time it would be better to link to an article showing the connection between the Kurds and the Israelis, like this, rather than linking to a Google search and expecting people to find such connections.
Remember this from the dearly departed Aaron Russo?
I think that's the crux of this as @A Jay says above. Iran's position and the resistance they are putting up is very critical in the grand scheme of things. The average populace on the ground may not understand this and will make judgements based on their own economic condition, which is also expected. And, that is what I hear too when I speak with Iranian people around me. And, that's a tragedy in itself - all due to the lack of knowledge of world affairs and Geo-politics. Everyone wants the suffering to go away but doesn't want to contribute to the revolution which can make it happen! The Western nexus will exploit that fully as we can see it in action and could very well lead to Iran's fall.
From what I have seen that seems to be the case more often than not especially for people that have left or fled their home countries in the last decades in order to go to western countries like Germany or the US:
Not seldomly they seem to have been people that tended to swallow western lies and propaganda in their home countries long before they left and then based some if not most of their decisions on that propaganda. They also not seldomly seem to have been the people in their home countries that have had the means to leave the country in the first place.
I also have some personal experience with such people here in Germany. For example: one person left Syria quite a while ago before Assad was deposed and the other one left hungary.
Both have one thing in common: they blurt out the same lies and propaganda that totally uninformed people in Germany blurt out and they listen to mainstream BS almost exclusively. My bet would be that well above 65% of people that have left their home countries in the last decades to go to the glorious west are people that tend to be mainstream devouring people.
One thing people not seldomly tend to assume unconsciously when people have left or fled their home countries is that that somehow means that such people must be especially virtuous, well informed or good people. I don’t think that has to be the case at all and in fact would tend to think that the opposite might be more likely.
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Ricardo
The Living Force
fwiw , this reads as exterior people being shuffled about , being used as a mallet to sow social confusion ( but in a wider sense social engineering ) since their exterior reliance is paramount in all they "do" , also remembering how easily "they" gobbled up all the vax psy-op propaganda, still remember watching whole families travel in cars all masked up with facial diapers , this somewhat explains how easily the PTB have flooded western europe and elsewhere with large numbers of migrants , certainly with appropriate funding and support to move them as well of course. my 2x cents
Interesting speculation as to why the internet is (largely) down in Iran, despite Musk's Starlink being smuggled into the country:
The two source articles:
As Iranian regime shuts down internet, even Starlink seemingly being jammed
Confirmed: Russia’s Krasukha Electronic Warfare Systems Spotted in Iran
The two source articles:
As Iranian regime shuts down internet, even Starlink seemingly being jammed
Confirmed: Russia’s Krasukha Electronic Warfare Systems Spotted in Iran
I think it is probably a pretty smart thing nowadays, under the right circumstances, to shut down the internet if it is done under the right hands. Much of the chaos and misery the empire has spread in recent years to topple governments seems to have been created around the idea that they can steer up populations via hysteria and lies spread on the internet via social media and such to help get the process going and/or done.
Ruth
The Living Force
Hmm all this trouble in Iran. I wonder who's behind it? Mike Pompeo thinks he knows.
www.jpost.com
His X post:
Mike Pompeo alludes to Mossad in Iran in social media post | The Jerusalem Post
"The Iranian regime is in trouble," the former US secretary of state said, citing ongoing anti-regime protests that are occurring across Iran.
www.jpost.com
His X post:
On the Iranian state's 'mistreatment and suppression of women', something commonly believed in the Western world, contrast the views of the head of the former regime with the results generated by the current one:
Source UN report
Source UN report
Syrian Girl went shopping in Tehran and shows stores playing music and women with and without a hijab walking around:
There's a lot of propaganda on X and in MSM (about women being oppressed, protesters being killed left and right, etc), so I wouldn't be surprised if they're going to try something in Iran. Although Iran is, as was said in the show yesterday, the 'final boss', it's a country that can fight back. So, we'll see what the PTB will do.
The latest development seems to be Trump saying that "leaders of Iran called to negotiate", and that a "meeting is being set up".
There's a lot of propaganda on X and in MSM (about women being oppressed, protesters being killed left and right, etc), so I wouldn't be surprised if they're going to try something in Iran. Although Iran is, as was said in the show yesterday, the 'final boss', it's a country that can fight back. So, we'll see what the PTB will do.
The latest development seems to be Trump saying that "leaders of Iran called to negotiate", and that a "meeting is being set up".
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