Hmmm if Trump is being blackmailed - are those too?
Well... Just search for everything related to Trump.
(L) Yeah, well... The C's have mixed reviews about Trump. I mean, very mixed.
(Joe) So is he a puppet? Is our take on Trump close to the reality?
(L) And what is our take?
(Joe) What you just described.
(L) Oh, I'm just talking about the election.
(Joe) Yeah. But in general, a guy came in, not a career politician, came in, thought he was going to be president, found out the hard way. Deep State runs the show, and he's just been trying his best since then. He's well intentioned, but he just isn't able to do anything 'cause they have him hamstrung.
(L) Well, yeah. Yeah. I think that that's what is. Is that basically the way it is?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So: S__ and Jay say that it's mind blowing that people are still falling for this: "If you think Trump is your savior from Biden, then you're still telling them, “'I'm stupid, and I deserve what you wanna give me.'" Well, I don't think anybody here thinks that Trump is a savior from anything, because they're never going to allow him to do anything really significant.
(Joe) In my opinion, the main purpose or the main service that Trump has provided for people who are able to see it, is that by attempting to be the president and do his own thing, and then fighting against them, he has exposed them. He has forced them to a large extent to come out of the woodwork and show their hand. It showed the American people and the world population who really runs America.
(L) Yeah. Well, that's what the C's said would happen. They said big miscalculation, and it would expose the Deep State.
(Joe) Right. It's not about whether or not Trump's going to save anybody. Trump's "service to humanity" was to simply be the kind of guy he is, which is, you know, Art of the Deal, "I'm going down fighting" and that kind of thing, and force them to show their hand. After that it's all gravy.
(L) Yeah, I mean, they'll NEVER let him really do anything significantly effective. Never.
(Joe) And they just tried to kill him.
(L) Trump is like a drunk parent! [laughter] I mean, read the book Children of Alcoholic Parents and I mean, it's not a joke. Trump is like that drunk parent, and the child is trying to hit the target. He may not be like that inside his own family and in private, but his public persona is like that drunk parent that the kid can never know what's going to come next, what's going to happen. And I mean, they're just, like, getting whiplash and getting emotional trauma. The American public is just getting traumatized by all this crap!
(Chu) And apart from Israel having something on him, and him being like that, has he been tampered with in any way? Because he's really acting weird...
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is a lot of his current mania a function of his brush with death last year?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is he a true believer, now? Does he think God saved him?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Oh, Geez!
(Joe) To save Israel, to save the world.
(L) Alright then! Never mind that the Israelis were probably behind the assassination attempt.
(Andromeda) Does he know that?
(L) Maybe he knows....
A: Yes
(L) Does that mean anyone as naive as Trump is at this point, or at this point he deserves trolling?
A: Either. Trump gave in to Deep State.
Q: (L) Yeah, but he was talking about building the wall before he got into office. I mean, that was one of the reasons that people... It's hard to tell if people liked him more for the "build the wall" rhetoric, or for making friends with Russia and bringing troops home.
(Joe) No, I think it was more domestic stuff.
(L) Yeah, I think people were more interested in domestic issues and getting rid of so many illegal aliens...
(Joe) Yeah.
(L) And building the wall and that sort of thing.
A: Trump really bit off a lot. Before, he had a rather simplistic view of things. Now he knows more and can do less. Still, his heart is in the right place.
(L) I think the problem is that Trump first of all underestimated what he was up against, and second of all, he didn't spend any time really gathering allies.
(Joe) He didn't think he needed to. As soon as he gets into the White House, he's "Commander in Chief"!
A: Not only that, he began making enemies.
(Joe) Did Israel threaten that they would use nukes against Iran if Trump didn’t agree to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities?
A: Close
Q: (L) And I think that's as close as you're gonna get.
(Joe) What is the real reason that Trump is so completely committed to support of Israel?
A: Partly family pressure but also blackmail. Not so much anything that Trump has done, but what can be done to him or his family.
Q: (L) So that kind of obviates the question, "Can we know the nature of the compromise?"
(Joe) Right.
So we have a guy who "has his heart in the right place" but to protect his family, the family of others must die and usually gives in to the deep state, apparently, to avoid greater harm. It sounds "Unfair" but hey, a lot of dynamics on other levels come into play here too.
Does this mean that when we see him talking so arrogantly it's because he has to "pretend" or why he's acting under false information and he really thinks he did something good without knowing the whole truth? It depends on the situation and what he knows or thinks he knows about what he is talking about, that is, when he says that the Leader of Iran is a murderer, does he say it because he maintains the rhetoric of Israel or does he say it because at least he has direct knowledge of it to refer in that way because of the deal he made with them in exchange for Soleimani's life?
The second would be the obvious, there are times when he has knowledge of something, that's why it surprises when people believe that what he says is a lie but in those "strange" moments he is telling the truth.
When does he do things to really have his hands tied and protect his family and when does he do them simply because he doesn't mind doing it or thinks it's not a problem to do it because those who will be affected, are muddy and that no longer depends on him but on "bills" to be collected for business in the past for which he is not responsible?
Everything is mixed by his personality.
Trump keeps calling on Iran to lay down their arms and even that may be just a reflection of his fear that Israel will fulfill its blackmail to use a nuclear bomb on Iran and not because Trump really wants them to surrender as we understand it.
"I have already fulfilled my promise, you take back your country" is Trump's sign of wanting to leave Israel on his own?.
I've already fulfilled my deal, I have nothing more to do here. And knowing that they are all "friends" in the shadows, it agrees with Trump announcing that there would be many casualties of the US army to have reasons to withdraw and leave the way to a certain extent free for Iran to attack Israel directly without much defense from the US or other countries, except those like Germany and France, who have just defied Trump, conveniently appear on the board.
I don't know, I'm thinking a lot of nonsense maybe but if Iran sacrificed for Trump at one point of their conflicts in the past... the right thing would be for Trump to wash Iran's hands/feet/head now. It would be the logical thing to do behind the scenes.
I suppose that's why the C's encouraged us to think less in black and white, and to focus more on the big picture. Let the drama play out and the pawns play out their roles.
Yes, totally and thanks fo that info, something like that was haunting my mind , to observe without taking sides, or in more colloquial terms, "You don't have to put your hand in for anyone" and just observe how everything is uncovering and connecting.
The situation gets to such a point where everyone is bogged down to some extent as well. But it is interesting how everyone expects Israel to fall and supports the side of the "good guys" but the good guys are also artifices of the destruction they face and generate collateral damage, they are not so "Innocent/righteous/honorable" one thing connects to another.
It is as if at some point they have let evil in so that they could get to this point.
Who is they? - Bibi or Iran or Bibi in the Iran's mask? Who benefits at the end?
Well, he will have learned something from Epstein after all:
"If I am assassinated, let the Trump files that omitted Israel be released and let the world burn. Let's make the world burn again like never before! Thank you for your attention to this matter!"