Brown claims he is on brink of deal for international banking regulation

I've come to the inescapable conclusion that Gordon Brown is an OP. He may not be a psychopath as defined on this forum (although he is most definitely advised by psychopaths, osit), but imo he is most definitely an OP. That kind of makes me feel sorry for the man.

Does anyone have any ideas about why this should be?
 
bedower said:
I've come to the inescapable conclusion that Gordon Brown is an OP. He may not be a psychopath as defined on this forum (although he is most definitely advised by psychopaths, osit), but imo he is most definitely an OP. That kind of makes me feel sorry for the man.

Does anyone have any ideas about why this should be?

I'm curious as to why you would come to such a conclusion?
 
[quote author=anart yesterday] I'm curious as to why you would come to such a conclusion? [/quote]

Quite frankly, Anart, so am I. Oh! wait - I'm doing it again...

Why do I think he's an OP? Well, even when he was the Chancellor of the Exchequer (and imposed hundreds of covert taxes) I always got the impression that he was just a 'company man'; a follower rather than a leader. He aways struck me as being an 'empty vessel' in some hard-to-define kind of way. Like a sort of political 'couch potato'. Nothing he has done (or not done!) since has led to me revising these impressions. I understand that we should not make any judgements about whether this person or that person is an OP or not, and that this is made quite clear in the Cass transcripts. But Gordon Brown is something else; as though the light were on but there's no-one at home. One forum member described it (about OPs and psychopaths in general) as there being nothing behind the eyes. It's very possible that I'm wrong here, and being very unjust to GB. It's quite possible that he is a souled being, but has been so ponerised and brainwashed, and is now in so deep that he can't reach the shore. Isn't that what's implied by 'selling one's soul to the devil'?

Why do I feel sorry for him? This is what I first thought you meant by your question, because since posting yesterday I've been trying to analyse it, so it was already on my mind when I read your post. When GB became PM, Sott ran quite a few articles on him. In one of them, Brown was paying the compulsory homage to you-know-who-and-what, and the article reported that he'd spoken of his father being a great friend to the Entity, and had made many a journey there. Brown's father was a Presbytarian minister, and quite possibly of a rather dour and inflexible disposition, although I have nothing to support this factually. I don't know whether Brown's father was the kind of cut-and-dried Zionist that we read about on SoTT every day, but he was most definitely very pro-Entity, and Gordon would inevitably have absorbed a lot of his father's viewpoints and way of thinking. Don't we all, during childhood's vulnerable time? Perhaps this is why I feel sorry for him; that he really had no defence against this indoctrination; that if he had been brought up by fairly 'normal' parents he might have turned out to have been a very differently-oriented politician.

Any and all of this is just speculation on my part, and any and all of this could be wrong. I don't like GB, nor am I trying to make any kind excuse for him. But while Bush/Blair/Olmert and all rest of their cabal are fairly transparent, Brown is still a bit of an enigma for me. OP was the only thing I could come up with. But there is much more to it, I'm sure.

Is this what you meant?
 
bedower said:
Oh! wait - I'm doing it again...

Any and all of this is just speculation on my part, and any and all of this could be wrong. I don't like GB, nor am I trying to make any kind excuse for him. But while Bush/Blair/Olmert and all rest of their cabal are fairly transparent, Brown is still a bit of an enigma for me. OP was the only thing I could come up with. But there is much more to it, I'm sure.

Is this what you meant?

I think it might be time to re-read this thread - Organic Portals the other race .

Just because you perceive someone to be 'empty' or you don't 'like' them or what they're doing does not indicate they are an OP. I may be an OP, you may be an OP - how would you know for sure? Playing 'spot the OP' is a losing proposition for all involved since it takes years of close observation to determine the likelihood that a person is lacking higher centers - and even then, what do you have but a conclusion; nothing more.

Lacking higher centers does not mean that a person is 'bad'. There is the danger of labeling anyone 'unpleasant' or 'negative' as an OP, when the more likely fact of the matter is that most, if not all, OPs are quite 'pleasant' and they're the people you're surrounded with every single day. I suppose it all comes down to perspective and remembering that all is not as it seems. Hope that makes some sense.
 
[quote author=anart today] Just because you perceive someone to be 'empty' or you don't 'like' them or what they're doing does not indicate they are an OP. [/quote]

Understood. It was just following along with the thought of the forum member(s) who suggested that the fact that some people seem to be 'empty behind the eyes' might be an indication. It's always easy to say that the people we don't like on a personal level 'have no soul', osit. As you point out, anyone can be an OP. And equally, those of us on this forum who know about OPs sincerely hope that we ourself are not an OP (at least, I do. Hope I'm not, that is). And so, because we each hope we are not an OP, it is inevitable, osit, to fall into the trap of trying to spot OPs. Does that make sense?

There is the danger of labeling anyone 'unpleasant' or 'negative' as an OP, when the more likely fact of the matter is that most, if not all, OPs are quite 'pleasant'

Yes, that's what I meant when I speculated that Brown might have been a different person if he'd had a different upbringing. But that could apply equally to every one of us also, I now realise. Guilty as charged, m'lud. :-[

What I did realise, in between these postings, is that perhaps it is the 'national leader' thing with me and Brown, the same as it is with Americans and Bush, or Canadians and Harper; a political thing. In other words, these national leaders committed themselves to courses of action which were opposed by a majority of their own citizens - that it's a 'Not in my name' kinda thing. GB is the British PM, he 'speaks' for Britain. He could have reversed much of Blair's damage (not likely but possible), instead he just carried on with Blair's policies, much to the detriment not only of the Brits, but also of people in other parts of the world. He is, in my mind, a traitor to Britain, because he has placed the needs of a foreign entity before the welfare of the very people he claims to represent.

Yes, I will re-read 'OPs; the Other Race', as soon as I've re-read 'The Wave' (which I've already started doing), 'Adventures with the Cassiopaeans' (which I haven't read yet :-[), 'Bringers of the Dawn' (first time), and made sure I'm up-to-speed' with all the forum topics.

Whew!
 
bedower said:
And so, because we each hope we are not an OP, it is inevitable, osit, to fall into the trap of trying to spot OPs. Does that make sense?

Sure, I can see how that would make sense, I just question that it is inevitable. Saying it is 'inevitable' is basically saying that you are mechanical and can't help it - it just happens and there is no stopping it. Mechanical behavior is what we're trying to escape from, after all - which would mean that at some point, hopefully, it would not be inevitable at all. ;)
 
[quote author=anart today] Saying it is 'inevitable' is basically saying that you are mechanical and can't help it - it just happens and there is no stopping it. [/quote]

Ouch!

Point taken, Anart. That had not occurred to me. Thanks for that.

Something else to watch out for, on top of everything else I have to watch out for in overcoming all this programming...

Onward...onward...
 
[quote author=bedower]Yes, I will re-read 'OPs; the Other Race', as soon as I've re-read 'The Wave' (which I've already started doing), 'Adventures with the Cassiopaeans' (which I haven't read yet ), 'Bringers of the Dawn' (first time), and made sure I'm up-to-speed' with all the forum topics. [/quote]

Hi bedower,

Have you ever considered reading more than one topic at the same time? When the need arrives to set something down for awhile, another topic is resumed. You may find that the mind doesn’t need the linearity we impose upon it.
 
Mountain Crown said:
Have you ever considered reading more than one topic at the same time? When the need arrives to set something down for awhile, another topic is resumed. You may find that the mind doesn’t need the linearity we impose upon it.

On the other hand, what works for one person may not work for another. It can be difficult enough to retain information by following a linear pattern. Attempting to do the same with multiple topics seems to be even more difficult for the average reader.
 
[quote author=mountain crown today] Have you ever considered reading more than one topic at the same time? [/quote]

Yes, that sometimes happens, where I can have more than one book 'on the go', as it were.

Usually though, I get so engrossed in a book that I just have to finish it. I've found that if I put down one book I'm reading and pick up another it's because the first book hasn't managed to capture my full attention for some reason. There are four or five books currently on the go at the moment.

One of them is Carlos Castenada's 'The Power of Silence' which I found on a second-hand bookstall a few months ago. As Castenada is mentioned frequently on the forum I was planning to post an overview of the book here, for the benefit of other forum readers. I am currently, and I cringe to admit this, only as far as Chapter 3, and it is still sitting (reproachfully) before me next to the computer.

There is a great deal of required reading to go through, osit, including the forum topics, while still finding time for the ordinary domestic daily duties and responsibilities, and now I have Anart's penance of re-reading 'OPs;the Other Race' to add to the list - I'm still waiting for the first 4 'essential reads' (Stout, Hare. el al) from the AUC, and I haven't got round to 'The Gods of Eden' yet, and if ever I manage to get hold of 'TSHOTW', well, I shall just have to go off into a hermitage somewhere until I can finish them all...

:cool2:
 
bedower said:
while still finding time for the ordinary domestic daily duties and responsibilities, and now I have Anart's penance of re-reading 'OPs;the Other Race' to add to the list -


Hey, now, that wasn't penance - that was a suggestion. You'll know when I'm dispensing penance because I'll be wearing my habit...
 
[quote author=anart today] that was a suggestion [/quote]

Does that mean I don't have to re-read it (she wrote hopefully) and nothing bad will happen to me?

because I'll be wearing my habit...

,,,and carrying your big whip? :scared:

(I was just kidding about it being a penance - not kidding about all the reading matter though. I honestly don't know how you guys find the time to go out to work... :O
 

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