Can the Banksters Take Down Russia?

Lilou

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I've been, of course, rooting for Putin to take down the elite banksters. But this really cannot happen unless he were successful in taking control of Russia's central bank. This article I read gave me a whole new perspective.

Despite Putin's best efforts, the article suggests that the elite western banksters will probably just become elite-er. America will decline, China will take its place, the fiat dollar will be finished and replaced by SDR's (special drawing rights). It will become the new reserve currency and it will be electronic. A big move toward a cashless society. So instead of relinquishing their control, they will just expand it to include the BRICS. :headbash:

[quote author= http://www.silverdoctors.com/can-the-bankster-elites-take-down-russia/ ]

An imminent collapse of the US fiat petrodollar? China and Russia, with their enormous
build-up of physical gold over the last several years, waiting in the wings to lead a new
gold-backed currency? The growing BRICS alliance to unseat the elite’s Western NWO
and its banking system?

A growing likelihood on the first question, and no and no to the latter two questions. In
fact, the elites are probably doing more to destroy the fiat Federal Reserve “dollar” than
any other group or alliance. There has been talk about the US destroying the dollar for
at least the past four years. Kyle Bass even made the pronouncement whereby a senior
Obama administration official told him, “We’re just going to kill the dollar.” That is
exactly what is happening and coming from “inside information.”

What most people refuse to understand, if not even acknowledge, is the extent to which
the elites have an utter stranglehold on the world’s financial system, and by world we do
not mean just the Western world. China and Russia are included. There is no single
country that can exist without the machinations of the elite’s banking system. They have
been running the world for a few hundred years and are masters at it.

Russia has enough gold to back its ruble in some way. Understand that the current price
for gold does not represent a fair standard of value. It is vastly undervalued, and one day,
the reality of what should be a fair value for gold and silver will occur. They are both
money and measures of value. Most people have reversed their thinking and measure the
value of PMs by valueless fiat. This is a huge mistake and reflects how well the elites have
successfully exercised mind control over the masses to maintain this false belief.

The agenda for a New World Order is at least 100 years old, when bankers and corporate
presidents were all aiming to control every aspect of industry via financial manipulation,
straight from the well-established Rothschild “game book,” as it were. This unabated zeal
for world control is not something that has been in the works for just the past several
decades. Knowledge of this does not come from an announcement in the New York Times
or Wall Street Journal; rather, one has to diligently read through a myriad of source
material and then see how the dots are connected.

In a nutshell, if the elites have their way, and to date they remain unopposed, the fiat
Federal Reserve Note, aka the debt “dollar,” will be replaced with some form of a new
international currency, or perhaps SDRs [Special Drawing Rights], an international
basket of currencies. All money may exist as computer credits that can be readily
tracked. If anyone dare oppose the bankers, poof, your credits just disappeared, and
you have nothing. Bankers rely on debt largesse and fear.

There will be no sovereign nations. All countries will be held accountable to the new
Wizard Of OZ bankers behind the curtain, much like the experiment called the
European Union. The EU may fall apart, but the lessons learned will not be lost, and in
fact they will be honed to format what is to come. The handful of banking elite that
rule the Western economies will become “elite-er”

What of China and Russia? Both have advocated respect for the IMF with expressed
desires to be participants in the system. The system will change, to be sure: no more
Federal Reserve fiat “dollar” as the world’s reserve currency. Not a few hold out the
errant belief that the BRICS nations, primarily China and Russia, will replace the elite’s
banking system. Absolutely not! The elites are redesigning the next phase of their
control over the financial world to include the BRICS, all eager to join the “club” for
the first time and be major participants on the financial world stage.

The question is, will Russia make it before the Obama administration, under direct
control of the elites, destroys the Russian economy? Perhaps a better question to ask is,
CAN the elites take down Russia? Just as the United States, as a physical country was
replete with so many natural resources, which have all had their existence sucked out of
them, Russia has the most natural resources of the entire world, and the bankers want
control over them. There is one big obstacle: Vladimir Putin.

If Putin had his way, he would kick the Russian Central Bank out of Russia. It was
created, designed and controlled by the Rothschilds, so Putin has little control over it.
The Russian central banking elite have been getting wealthy from their arrangement,
and they are not about to give up their Golden Goose.

If you want to understand why Obama has chosen to overthrow the sovereign Ukrainian
government and replaced it with a puppet leader that has been conducting genocide
against Russian loyalists in Eastern Ukraine, the Donbas area, it is a not-so-indirect
[non]declaration of war. This has been followed up by another form of war via all the
economic sanctions Obama has been strong-arming the EU to enforce against Russia
to their own detriment. The US does not care, as long as it gets its way.

Western bankers will not allow Putin to remove the Russian central bank, as he is trying
to do. The elites have a 3-pronged attack against Putin: 1. military threat, [Russia is more
than up to the task], 2. economic sanctions, [mostly backfiring and costing the EU more],
and 3. Russian banker oligarchs who will do anything to oppose Putin in order to preserve
their banker-criminal enterprise. With US history as a guide, presidential opposition,
Lincoln, Garfield, Kennedy, and Reagan prove that assassinations have their effect and
may not be out of the question.

It is interesting to see the West [really just Wall Street banks] attack the ruble causing it
to lose about 60% of its value relative to the fiat “dollar.”*** Will it succeed, or is Putin
allowing the attack to push down the value of the ruble, and at the bottom rush in to buy
as much as he can, using the sale of over-valued Treasury holdings owned by Russia? In
the process, flooding the market with US bonds will put pressure on the fiat “dollar,” and
viola, a reverse financial coup by Putin.

***Russia has less than $700 million in debt, the US has over $18 trillion; Russian debt is
about 15% of GDP, the US runs at over 100% of GDP; Russia runs a budget surplus, the
US runs a burgeoning deficit; Russia has gold to back it currency, the US now only has the
military to back its fiat and increasingly widely shunned “dollar;” Russia has the largest
natural resources in the world, the US has depleted or ruined most of its natural resources.
With which of these two countries does the rest of the world want to conduct business?

China is not in a position to have its renminbi become a world reserve currency, and that
country has been announcing its support in becoming a stronger member in the IMF via
participating in SDRs with its national currency. For China, it becomes a major world
player and participates in a remake of the financial COMPOSITION [not replacement]
of the existing world banking system.

For the elites, it is a match made in heaven. The US, as a spent nation, gets dumped and
China becomes a willing replacement in the pecking order. To what degree Russia is a
participant remains to be seen. While China and Russia have become stronger trading
partners, China is not above seeing Russia weakened to China’s advantage. All is never as
it seems.

2014 is ending unexpectedly for PMs, considerably weaker than what most thought would
be sharply higher prices. Based on what the charts are conveying, at least the initial part
of 2015 will not fare much better. Supply and demand are not the driving factors. World
financial dominance is. A number of PM “experts” are not focusing on this aspect.

If it has not yet become clear, seeing how the banking elites are attacking Russia, militarily
and economically, willing to destroy that country, and seeing how the US is being used in
its own self-destruction, willing to impose its military might and debt sabotaging of other
nations, then those who cannot understand the process will never understand how gold
and silver have become useful pawns in the service of the elite bankers and now how
China is positioning itself to become the next United States as a world superpower. The
role of Russia remains a question. The role of gold and silver is also a burning question.

As to substantially higher gold and silver prices in the “great reset” scheme, it makes no
sense for the still-in-control elites to allow PMs to be dramatically revalued too high.
Neither gold nor silver will ever be allowed to compete with their fiat monetary system.
We have no clue how gold and silver will ultimately be re-priced, nor do we think does
anyone else, despite all the numbers being bandied about.

What we know for sure is that the trend of any market is the most powerful and most
influential force, and this week’s analysis of the PMs market is a simple fact-based one.
It takes time and effort to change a trend. To whatever degree these market are being
manipulated, even the manipulators eventually “show their hand” through price and
volume activity. We see no change for prices remaining low, if not even making newer
recent lows in the months ahead.

It does not alter the view and necessity for the ongoing accumulation of the physical
metals, for having them will be essential when the big “reset” finally hits. Time remains
on the side of the buyers, but low prices may give way to higher premiums in order to
keep the game alive.

....analysis of PMs (precious metals) continued at above link......
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I couldn't resist, had to include the picture. :D
 

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Well there's a lot of this kind of discussion on the internet. There's certainly a lot of accurate things said in this article. But, there are many wildcards that aren't considered. Some of these are the cultural differences between US/European and China - China has never been a world marauding imperial "superpower" even when they could have been in their history. A big thing not taken into account is the earth changes/cosmic neighborhood aspect.

Electronic only, cashless control would be ideal for the "elite" parasitical banking/financial system. But there are so many "black swan" type things flying around that can take down the electric grid of large parts of the Earth (and fry a lot of infrastructure - data and otherwise) that how practical is it to depend on controlling the whole world this way?
 
Lilou said:
I've been, of course, rooting for Putin to take down the elite banksters. But this really cannot happen unless he were successful in taking control of Russia's central bank. This article I read gave me a whole new perspective.

Despite Putin's best efforts, the article suggests that the elite western banksters will probably just become elite-er. America will decline, China will take its place, the fiat dollar will be finished and replaced by SDR's (special drawing rights). It will become the new reserve currency and it will be electronic. A big move toward a cashless society. So instead of relinquishing their control, they will just expand it to include the BRICS. :headbash:


I think that's pretty much the way things are destined to go. While it might be nice to think of Putin etc. coming in to "save the world", we all know that that option isn't really on the cards, and never was. The value of having Putin's Russia appear at this time and do what it is doing is that it provides an opportunity (perhaps the last best one) for some more people to wake up to the machinations of the 'elite' because those machinations are on display like never before because of their moves to counter Russia. Other than that, this shows got a pre-determined finale. Just depends on how much 'hay' we can make in the meantime.
 
"destined to go" / "pre-determined finale"?
That makes me wonder at what is the point of so much work and effort to change things ('timelines' ala. "Bringers of the Dawn") and then to "settle for" what amounts to the same prophecy and programs, things that machines operate by?

(Biblical / 'Revelations' content reads like code for machines to execute, and which they seem to be trying for, not knowing how to do much of anything else.)

In 20 years, how much / what percent change of the global timeline(s) has Cassiopaea changed via its presence, from what was said / predicted back at its beginning?
 
Perceval said:
Lilou said:
I've been, of course, rooting for Putin to take down the elite banksters. But this really cannot happen unless he were successful in taking control of Russia's central bank. This article I read gave me a whole new perspective.

Despite Putin's best efforts, the article suggests that the elite western banksters will probably just become elite-er. America will decline, China will take its place, the fiat dollar will be finished and replaced by SDR's (special drawing rights). It will become the new reserve currency and it will be electronic. A big move toward a cashless society. So instead of relinquishing their control, they will just expand it to include the BRICS. :headbash:


I think that's pretty much the way things are destined to go. While it might be nice to think of Putin etc. coming in to "save the world", we all know that that option isn't really on the cards, and never was. The value of having Putin's Russia appear at this time and do what it is doing is that it provides an opportunity (perhaps the last best one) for some more people to wake up to the machinations of the 'elite' because those machinations are on display like never before because of their moves to counter Russia. Other than that, this shows got a pre-determined finale. Just depends on how much 'hay' we can make in the meantime.

Totally agree.Still, will be very interesting to see/observe how things will develop this year,i think this year will be more "substantial".
 
Skyalmian said:
"destined to go" / "pre-determined finale"?
That makes me wonder at what is the point of so much work and effort to change things ('timelines' ala. "Bringers of the Dawn") and then to "settle for" what amounts to the same prophecy and programs, things that machines operate by?

I think the point is that life is a school and all there is is lessons. Think of the effort spent like that spent to build a classroom full of study equipment. It is up to the students, i.e. people on Earth, to make use of those available equipment. The "finale" is not what matters. What matters is what happens in the process of getting there. FWIW.
 
Skyalmian said:
"destined to go" / "pre-determined finale"?
That makes me wonder at what is the point of so much work and effort to change things ('timelines' ala. "Bringers of the Dawn") and then to "settle for" what amounts to the same prophecy and programs, things that machines operate by?

(Biblical / 'Revelations' content reads like code for machines to execute, and which they seem to be trying for, not knowing how to do much of anything else.)

In 20 years, how much / what percent change of the global timeline(s) has Cassiopaea changed via its presence, from what was said / predicted back at its beginning?

The current "banking show" is one among many. When events like this happen and things start to "look up" a bit, I think we tend to latch onto it, and think that if only this one thing could be fixed, then everything would be fine. That is, of course, not true at all. Fix the banking system, and you still have a million and one other problems. Besides, even when there wasn't such a blatant one-world system in place, there was still corruption, psychos, war, suffering, etc.

When you think about it, we're hoping that we can have a "better banking system". Isn't that kind of like choosing between a Republican or a Democrat in a US election?

I don't know what effects our collective actions may have, but I've also seen enough to realize that they DO matter. I often remind myself of what the C's once said: Learn to think in unlimited terms. That doesn't mean you stop eating, stop paying bills until they turn off the electricity, and so on... It means that all the time, you should remember the bigger picture, and always do what you can to move in the direction of standing up for the truth to the best of your ability.

It also means that "timelines" and all that kind of thing may not work at all like we think they do. So, we do what we can do, practically, one day at a time... And wait and see.
 
[quote author= Skyalmian]
In 20 years, how much / what percent change of the global timeline(s) has Cassiopaea changed via its presence, from what was said / predicted back at its beginning? [/quote]

Maybe someone else will know about a transcript from the early days that gives some sort of "prediction" about the effects the Cassiopaea Experiment has. From what I can recall, the 'goal' was to have a minimum of 200 people who could all look at reality and agree on what is happening. This latest transcript talks about "tribal units" and the connection to the network, which can have effects on the level of DNA.

[quote author= 11 October 2014] https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,36259.0.html
A: The times ahead will be most interesting especially if the network both expands to the full tribal unit strength, and many others take the initiative to move up to the next stair step.

Q: (L) So, in a sense, what you're saying is that there is a need for the network to expand as in connecting chakras and so forth which is probably what helps with these “helper” things described a few minutes ago. When people are connected, they can help each other, both in and out of the body to make DNA changes and changes in their whole system. So, that's important. Also, people need to graduate when they get these DNA changes going on in their bodies that are helped by their helpers because of their connecting chakras because the network has strength. Does that make sense, everybody? {snip}

Q: What is the full tribal unit strength?

(L) Does that means quantity, and/or quality?

(Data) Or both?

A: Both.

Q: (Pierre) So when you reach this critical mass, it means you can have this influence, you can have this soul group influence on all the members and trigger these changes?

(L) Is that what you're saying here?

A: Yes!

Q: (L) When the tribe reaches critical mass, it'll start changing people's DNA. {snip}

(Perceval) Does the full tribal unit strength have anything to do with Gurdjieff's mention of 200 people?

A: Close enough.

Q: (L) And there was something else I wanted to ask that you guys made me think of... I had something, and it slipped out of my brain. I'm having a senior moment... OH! Is this full tribal unit strength capacity kind of what you meant way back when, when you talked about "broader receivership capability", that it's not simply restricted to an individual, but that it's like creating a net that is kind of like an array of antennas that...

(Perceval) The signal received is spread throughout the array...

A: Yes yes yes!

Q: (L) Okay.

(PoB) This full tribal unit strength that affects progress and changes DNA and so on, does it happen progressively, or is it like yes or no?

(L) You mean like on or off?

(PoB) Yes.

A: Critical mass much involved.

Q: (L) So you have to hit a critical mass before it switches.

(Andromeda) So it's more like on/off.

(L) I would say there are SOME individual cumulative things, but the big changes depend on critical mass.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So we can each be working on ourselves individually with diet, cold therapy, with our networking, with getting rid of our emotional baggage, learning how to get along, etc. But all of that is really just kind of like preparatory for a phase transition?

A: Yes.

Q: (Pierre) And how many percent of this full tribal strength have we reached right now? [laughter]

A: Not enough obviously.

Q: (PoB) Will we know when we reach it?

(Perceval) Yeah, Pierre will grow a tentacle.

A: You will know indeed!

Q: (L) Alright.

(Chu) "Not enough" is the new percentage measurement.

(Andromeda) We have missing members of our family that we need to find! [/quote]

So all we can do, is keep flapping our butterfly wings - keep on Working, learning, watching, doing, networking - and of course, chop wood and carry water. ;)

added: and I should include, helping to put someone on the stair behind us!
 
Perceval said:
Lilou said:
I've been, of course, rooting for Putin to take down the elite banksters. But this really cannot happen unless he were successful in taking control of Russia's central bank. This article I read gave me a whole new perspective.

Despite Putin's best efforts, the article suggests that the elite western banksters will probably just become elite-er. America will decline, China will take its place, the fiat dollar will be finished and replaced by SDR's (special drawing rights). It will become the new reserve currency and it will be electronic. A big move toward a cashless society. So instead of relinquishing their control, they will just expand it to include the BRICS. :headbash:

I think that's pretty much the way things are destined to go. While it might be nice to think of Putin etc. coming in to "save the world", we all know that that option isn't really on the cards, and never was. The value of having Putin's Russia appear at this time and do what it is doing is that it provides an opportunity (perhaps the last best one) for some more people to wake up to the machinations of the 'elite' because those machinations are on display like never before because of their moves to counter Russia. Other than that, this shows got a pre-determined finale. Just depends on how much 'hay' we can make in the meantime.

I wouldn't call any of this destined or pre-determined, as the future is open and, as ST said, there are way too many Black Swans flying around to make any accurate predictions. It may very well be the plan of the elites and I think there is a good a chance that it will get implemented to some degree, as described in the article. But then there is also a "triple bad day" for the psychopaths coming up...

And as you said, the bolder the they become in their moves, the more people see "the man the behind the curtain". This realization has been particularly strong in Germany, for example, regarding the role of politics and the press in creating this senseless confrontation with Russia. Once people see what is going on, there is no going back to ignorance - I think this will have a big impact on the future.

Plus, Russia and China (and others) may decide to go it alone this time - now that Western elites have shown their colors it seems pretty clear that China is next "on the list". I wouldn't bet that all the Western and Eastern elites and leaders are such a coherent and agreeable lot.
 
I also think that the boldness of the elites in being more overt in their moves is either due to desperation because "time is running out" or they may be overestimating their own position and underestimating other factors, such as their actions being seen by more people and things like Earth Changes. Wishful thinking makes them see what they want to see and not necessarily everything that is going to impact them.
 
There seems to be several groups who think they have Thor's hammer, but in the end none have what they think they have. They share the same lot as the heads they stand on, we all are in the same boat. They also make for a very tasty lunch, unlike a tobacco smoking, fat eating, aware, STO candidate!
 
Bobo08 said:
Skyalmian said:
"destined to go" / "pre-determined finale"?
That makes me wonder at what is the point of so much work and effort to change things ('timelines' ala. "Bringers of the Dawn") and then to "settle for" what amounts to the same prophecy and programs, things that machines operate by?

I think the point is that life is a school and all there is is lessons. Think of the effort spent like that spent to build a classroom full of study equipment. It is up to the students, i.e. people on Earth, to make use of those available equipment. The "finale" is not what matters. What matters is what happens in the process of getting there. FWIW.

I really agree with Bob08. We are not here to change the world, the world is exactly how it is supposed to be in order for us to learn our lessons. And that's why we are here - to learn our lessons; working on ourselves, waking up to the reality of what really is happening in this world and how to survive in such a place using our acquired knowledge.
 
Nienna said:
Bobo08 said:
Skyalmian said:
"destined to go" / "pre-determined finale"?
That makes me wonder at what is the point of so much work and effort to change things ('timelines' ala. "Bringers of the Dawn") and then to "settle for" what amounts to the same prophecy and programs, things that machines operate by?

I think the point is that life is a school and all there is is lessons. Think of the effort spent like that spent to build a classroom full of study equipment. It is up to the students, i.e. people on Earth, to make use of those available equipment. The "finale" is not what matters. What matters is what happens in the process of getting there. FWIW.

I really agree with Bob08. We are not here to change the world, the world is exactly how it is supposed to be in order for us to learn our lessons. And that's why we are here - to learn our lessons; working on ourselves, waking up to the reality of what really is happening in this world and how to survive in such a place using our acquired knowledge.

I disagree. While learning our lessons is the primary goal, contributing towards change in the world can be an important part of what we are doing here. Otherwise why talk about how our "butterfly wings" can bring change in the world or why set up sott.net for that matter? Just to learn lessons or to try and bring some needed change as well?

It is interesting that this group is quite different from many other spiritual schools which indeed focus only on our own lessons. Though even our own change brings change to the world - and the bigger and more committed the group, the bigger the effect.
 
My feeling is that turmoil, financial or otherwise, is in store for the whole world, more or less. And Russia, as a big and integral part of this world, will most likely suffer too. But suffering is something Russian people are well familiar with, so it will hardly kill us all. Some Russians will survive for sure, as usual. :) It may be very useful learning experience, on the other hand.

As for whether the world will change for the better after "the storm": it most likely will for some time, as it usually happens. But unfortunately, people at large have short memory and the next generation may completely forget the bitter lessons their parents had to learn.

I agree that the role of Putin's Russia is not so much to "save" the world, but more to simply be herself. And by being herself, Russia shows an example other nations might wish to follow to one extent or another. It's the free choice of other nations whether they wish to join certain Russia's efforts or not. Some nations have already expressed their support in many ways. Also, Russia is learning from other nations too: the alliance with China might help us reviving our sense of community, the relations with BRICS and EAEU might teach us more efficient cooperation and partnership, etc.

As for the role of this group, we can hardly change "what's written," whatever this may be. What we can do is learn, work on ourselves and share our knowledge and experience both within the group and with those "out there" who are asking. osit
 
axj said:
I disagree. While learning our lessons is the primary goal, contributing towards change in the world can be an important part of what we are doing here. Otherwise why talk about how our "butterfly wings" can bring change in the world or why set up sott.net for that matter? Just to learn lessons or to try and bring some needed change as well?

I would say that "learning our lessons" includes acting as necessary. It's similar to how information only becomes our knowledge when we act on it. So yeah, we do act to contribute towards change in the world as part of our learning, but don't get identified with the outcome. The world will be what it will be. It's what we learn and DO in the process that matters.
 
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