Caprica (new tv series)

daveOS said:
Even so I think the beauty and power of the STS/STO acronyms lie with their simple comprehensibility and clear distinction. For how easily I've seen people absorb the meaning of STS/STO that I've explained the concepts to I doubt Hollywood could erode their potency.

Aren't you talking too much easy here, we are just starting to see the differences between STS/STO. We need to be carefull and remain open, thinking you know now what you state above, is wishfully thinking.

Remember there's a whole density (4th density) to learn the lessons related to the two modes of existence and choose.
 
Ana said:
Aren't you talking too much easy here, we are just starting to see the differences between STS/STO. We need to be carefull and remain open, thinking you know now what you state above, is wishfully thinking.

Remember there's a whole density (4th density) to learn the lessons related to the two modes of existence and choose.

I appreciate the caution Ana and thank you for the focus. I recognize the over simplification of my statement. I didn't intend to presume I comprehend all densities and can easily transmit all aspects of STS/STO teaching. I was trying to concisely summarize why I wasn't fretting over Caprica's use of STO for "Soldiers of the One" without belaboring the point. And it is my experience that people I know who are totally averse to realities Laura spells out can comprehend STS/STO concepts and the folks I've landed those thoughts with do appear to resonate with the ideas (however crude all of our comprehensions). So please pardon the oversimplification and flippant representation and sorry for the confusion.
 
It might be helpful to remember that TV and movies are tools for programming and conditioning.
That is imho their primary purpose. It is possible to find smidgens of truth, but is it worth
wadeing through heaps of garbage to find them?
 
Leo40 said:
It might be helpful to remember that TV and movies are tools for programming and conditioning.
That is imho their primary purpose. It is possible to find smidgens of truth, but is it worth
wadeing through heaps of garbage to find them?

Maybe, maybe not. And it may be lucky for some who may benefit from those who do the wading and save them from getting exposed to too much garbage. Finding out how the programming is structured and how it may be affecting those with less awareness seems to be a positive goal. In the case of the BSG series, which I still have not seen but will keep an eye out for now, the treatment of religious themes seems relevant. And now with Caprica using an acronym for which I don't know of any other "religious" context other than "Service To Others", and they even sort of mangle it with the use of an article but not a preposition in the acronym so it would really make just as much sense for them to say "SOTO", something seems to be going on. Whether it's of a positive or negative nature or is all completely lost in confusion and meant to be, remains to be seen.

I still have a friend or two who watch MTV reality shows. I usually can't bear to subject myself to that sort of thing, even on a lark, but then sometimes they become such a cultural phenomenon I end up hearing other people talk about them anyway. Removing media influence from one's mental environment is probably a good thing but unless we completely hole up and cut ourselves off from the world (maybe that's the right path for some), it's still going to be there. I think developing good filters in one's mind is important as well as not getting obsessed with something even if it appears to have redeemable value.
 
meta-agnostic said:
Removing media influence from one's mental environment is probably a good thing but unless we completely hole up and cut ourselves off from the world (maybe that's the right path for some), it's still going to be there. I think developing good filters in one's mind is important as well as not getting obsessed with something even if it appears to have redeemable value.

The problem is, to my understanding, that the simple act of watching television blocks any real ability to filter - it is hypnotic mind control. It puts your brain into an altered state and in this state, the best thought-out and understood filters fall to the way side. When you watch television, you are in an altered state - a state that opens you to hypnotic suggestion and programming.

I'm not saying that some people are not capable of watching television and then deprogramming themselves, I'm sure there are people capable of such, but what I am saying is that to think about television with a base premise of 'developing and using filters' to protect oneself misses the crux of the matter - that television, by its nature, disables (works around) filters due to the altered mental/emotional state it induces. At least, this is my current understanding.
 
anart said:
meta-agnostic said:
Removing media influence from one's mental environment is probably a good thing but unless we completely hole up and cut ourselves off from the world (maybe that's the right path for some), it's still going to be there. I think developing good filters in one's mind is important as well as not getting obsessed with something even if it appears to have redeemable value.

The problem is, to my understanding, that the simple act of watching television blocks any real ability to filter - it is hypnotic mind control. It puts your brain into an altered state and in this state, the best thought-out and understood filters fall to the way side. When you watch television, you are in an altered state - a state that opens you to hypnotic suggestion and programming.

I'm not saying that some people are not capable of watching television and then deprogramming themselves, I'm sure there are people capable of such, but what I am saying is that to think about television with a base premise of 'developing and using filters' to protect oneself misses the crux of the matter - that television, by its nature, disables (works around) filters due to the altered mental/emotional state it induces. At least, this is my current understanding.

I think it's still quite possible to watch television while remaining detached and critical toward the content being presented, my family is the best example! We're a house full of critics! But I do think we could all do without a lot of TV, I personally am quite averse to it :shock:
 
anart said:
meta-agnostic said:
Removing media influence from one's mental environment is probably a good thing but unless we completely hole up and cut ourselves off from the world (maybe that's the right path for some), it's still going to be there. I think developing good filters in one's mind is important as well as not getting obsessed with something even if it appears to have redeemable value.

The problem is, to my understanding, that the simple act of watching television blocks any real ability to filter - it is hypnotic mind control. It puts your brain into an altered state and in this state, the best thought-out and understood filters fall to the way side. When you watch television, you are in an altered state - a state that opens you to hypnotic suggestion and programming.

I'm not saying that some people are not capable of watching television and then deprogramming themselves, I'm sure there are people capable of such, but what I am saying is that to think about television with a base premise of 'developing and using filters' to protect oneself misses the crux of the matter - that television, by its nature, disables (works around) filters due to the altered mental/emotional state it induces. At least, this is my current understanding.

Thanks anart. I'm aware of this aspect and I guess I just don't like admitting it to myself. Or quite possibly, too much TV has made me lose awareness of it :scared: . I've also heard that HDTV is worse as far as the hypnotic programming aspect. Any vouched-for links on this would be appreciated. Yes, there's way more bad than good to be found in all of this, but I guess I'm still trying to salvage some aspects of it in my mind. I am interested in how this "STO with terrorist factions" thing on Caprica develops but it's probably just as well not to get sucked in.
 
I came across this site about a year ago concerning the effects of HDTV.

_http://www.scribd.com/doc/12548638/Warning-Against-Adverse-Health-Effects-From-the-Operation-of-Digital-Broadcast_

This is an open letter to the US, from some very concerned German physicians who have seen first-hand the ill effects of HDTV.


To the President of the United States of America Bamberg, February 12, 2009
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Fax: 001 202‐456‐2461

To the Citizens of the United States of America
To the Members of the House of Representatives
To the Members of the Senate

Warning Against Adverse Health Effects from the Operation of Digital Broadcast Television Stations (DVB‐T)

Dear President Obama:
Dear Members of the House of Representatives:
Dear Members of the Senate:
Dear Citizens of the United States of America:


In the US, digital broadcast television is scheduled to start operating on February 17, 2009. We
write to you today because we wish to save you from the significant negative health
consequences that have occurred here in Germany.

In Germany, analog broadcast television stations have gradually been switching to digital
broadcast signals since 2003. This switchover first took place in metropolitan areas. In those
areas, however, the RF exposures in public places as well as at home continued to increase at
the same time. As a result, the continuing declining health status of children, adolescents, and
adults in urban areas could not be attributed to any single cause.

On May 20, 2006, two digital broadcast television stations went on the air in the Hessian Rhoen
area (Heidelstein, Kreuzberg), which until recently had enjoyed rather low mobile phone
radiation exposure levels. Within a radius of more than 20 km, the following symptoms that
occurred abruptly were reported:

constant headaches, pressure in the head, drowsiness, sleep problems, inability to think clearly,
forgetfulness, nervous tensions, irritability, tightness in the chest, rapid heartbeat, shortness of
breath, depressive mood, total apathy, loss of empathy, burning skin, inner burning, leg
weakness, pain in the limbs, stabbing pain in various organs, weight increase

Birds had fled the area. Cats had turned phlegmatic and hardly ever went into the garden. One
child committed suicide; a second child tried doing it.


Over time the same unbearable symptoms showed up in other locations—most recently in
Bamberg and Aschaffenburg on November 25, 2008. Physicians accompanied affected people to
areas where there was no DVB‐T reception (valleys, behind mountain ranges) and witnessed
how these people became symptom‐free only after a short period of time.

The respective agencies responsible in Germany were approached for help, but they declined to
follow up on the strongly suggestive evidence in the actual locations. The behavior of the
government agencies disregards the fundamental rights of affected people guaranteed in the
German Constitution.

In Germany, DVB‐T (Digital Video Broadcasting Terrestrial) uses Orthogonal Frequency Division
Multiplex Modulation. The fundamental principle of this type of modulation works by spreading
the information across several thousand carrier frequencies directly adjacent to each other. A
channel is 7.8 MHz wide. The amplitude also changes constantly.

The WHO, the German Radiation Protection Commission, and the German Federal Ministry of
the Environment rely on the Guidelines for Limiting Exposure to Time‐varying Electric, Magnetic,
and Electromagnetic Fields (up to 300 GHz), (Health Physics 74 (4): 494‐522; 1998) published by
the International Commission on Non‐Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP). In this document,
it says:
p. 495: “These guidelines will be periodically revised and updated as advances are made in
identifying the adverse health effects of time‐varying electric, magnetic, and electromagnetic
fields.”

p. 507: “Interpretation of several observed biological effects of AM electromagnetic fields is
further complicated by the apparent existence of “windows” of response in both the power
density and frequency domains. There are no accepted models that adequately explain this
phenomenon, which challenges the traditional concept of a monotonic relationship between the
field intensity and the severity of the resulting biological effects.”


Why are the German agencies in charge not willing to help identify the adverse health effects?
Since immediately, after digital broadcast television stations had started transmitting, adverse
health effects have occurred, the review of the Guidelines announced by the ICNIRP is
imperative. Obviously, there are response windows contained within the broad frequency bands
with their several thousand frequencies that change constantly and whose amplitude also
changes constantly. The ICNIRP had already pointed out this possibility.

In 1992, Dipl.‐Ing. Rüdiger Matthes, member of ICNIRP and of the Geman Radiation Protection
Agency (BfS), emphasized the preliminary status of the exposure limits in a hearing on the health
risks of electromagnetic radiation: “…They (electromagnetic exposure levels) are several orders of
magnitude higher than the natural background radiation levels of nontechnical sources…In
parallel to this development, findings of scientific studies according to which long‐term exposure
to such fields may trigger adverse health effects keep accumulating.…In this context, it is also
important to recognize that there are large differences in exposure levels within a given
population. A small child, for example, absorbs much more RF energy than an adult
person…There are several findings on low‐level exposures, which are considered scientifically
validated because they have been reproduced often but which are rather difficult to interpret.


The impact of mostly pulsed or ELF modulated RF radiation on cell metabolism, for example,
counts among them. It has been observed that the efflux of certain ions (e.g. calcium) from a cell
increases during exposure to such fields. The occurrence of this effect is described almost
completely independent of the actual field strength. It can be found at extremely low absorption
levels.…With all the currently available scientific findings, there remain some crucial questions
unanswered.

…There are gaps in the so‐called body of evidence. That means that the biological effects, for
example, have only been investigated for individual frequencies. Data (e.g. effect thresholds) on
the various biological effects across the entire frequency spectrum are not available. The
exposure limits, therefore, are based on an approach that greatly simplifies the very complex
reality whose details are unfathomable.
It should also be noted that concrete data on possible
effects of long‐term exposures are mostly lacking.”


Real life teaches us that it was wrong to simplify. In Germany, we see strong evidence of a direct
temporal association between the start‐up of terrestrial digital broadcast television and the
occurrence of severe health symptoms.

Dr.‐Ing. W. Volkrodt, former R&D engineer at Siemens, recognized the danger of
electromagnetic fields for humans, animals, and plants. He pinned his hopes on policymakers
who would listen to reason when he wrote in 1987: “Future historians will refer to the RF
dilemma during the period from around 1975 to 1990 as a short, time‐limited ‘technical incident.’
Owing to the introduction of fiber optic technology, this incident could be remediated quickly and
effectively.“

Satellites and cable provide the US population with television services. By contrast, the risk
associated with terrestrial digital broadcast television transmitters is unacceptable.

We, therefore, ask you, dear Mr. President, who has the wellbeing of his citizens at
heart, to stop the scheduled introduction of this new technology in the United States
of America and to save the people from the negative health consequences that have
occurred in our country.


Dr. med. Cornelia Waldmann-Selsam
Dr. med. Christine Aschermann
Dr. med. Markus Kern

That last paragraph almost made me cry. My heart goes out to these decent folk who have seen the immediate and horrifying effects of what HD signals do to our biological make-up.

Unfortunately, this letter is terribly misguided as they made the assumption that Obama and the office of the President has the well being of it's citizens in mind.

After seeing some of the effects, it is almost like a gift complete with a pretty bow for TPTB for such a technology to come into the living rooms of every American.

I for one will never go HD. never thought to anyway. This just sealed it.

May I note to the Moderators, this could possibly be a new thread as it really has nothing to do with the Caprica series, which I must admit am following as well. I've been a fan of BSG since the 1979 series. And the concepts within the new show have caught my interest.

Here's an interesting factoid. Eric Stoltz who plays Daniel Graystone, was in a movie in early 90s calle "Killing Zoe." I find it almost too much of a coincidence that Graystone's daughter is named Zoe.
 
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