Cassiopaea Sessions? it stopped?

[Buddy]

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The Cs said that human beings were Lucifer, the fallen angel and that they were part of a fragmented 6D group. I cant figure out for the life of me, what can lead a 6D group to be fragmented and please dont answer, they chose to be fragmented... why would they choose to be fragmented, because they felt like coming back down and re-learning some old lessons? thus distancing themselves further from 7D where if I understand correct is what everything is hoping to reach at some point. So according to my 3D Linear Thinking, it is clearly illogical to choose to come back down again, willingly...

Hi luke. I'm really thinking about this and what you are really wanting to know and I have to confess I'm still a bit vague so I'm going to assume the above is really your question?

If so, then how is the idea of re-birthing a new long-wave Creation cycle illogical? Even in 3D there is more than one kind/type of logic. I seriously do not think that the 'Sun Absolute' at the end of time is some Being who considers that the goal of Reconstitution is so 'iffy' that once 7D has been reached it should never be left again. After all, like you say, that is 3D linear thinking.

Did I misunderstand you?

 

[Gonzo]

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I think one has to also consider that all instance of time, every single moment, is actually happening simultaneously but we in 3-D can only see time in a linear fashion.

Laura's soul group from the future, her higher self, so to speak, had access to all time while we only see time as a progression.

When the creator chose to create, both creation and entropy were the result. When creation chose to experience all that is (or itself), it had to lower its vibration into various frequencies, forming densities of awareness, all at the same time.

There was no fall from higher densities. The fall, as far as I know, was from STO 3-D (hybrid 3- and 4-D) into the current state of physicality and STS-ness.

Someone please correct me if I have misunderstood this or not explained it well.

Gonzo

 

[truth seeker]

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There was no fall from higher densities. The fall, as far as I know, was from STO 3-D (hybrid 3- and 4-D) into the current state of physicality and STS-ness.

I believe this is the case or at least it is my current understanding.

Luke, I'll post a small excerpt from the page but it's probably better to read the full page (at least) in order to better understand the full context (bold mine):
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave_iii.htm

Q: (T) Now wait a minute. I am losing the whole train here. What were we before the "Fall?"

A: STO.

Q: (T) We are STS at this point because of what happened then?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Okay, now, we were STO at that time. The Lizards opened the door, we are using this as an allegory, I guess; the Lizards opened the door and showed us a pot of gold hoping that we would reach in for the pot, or walk through the door, when they were waiting for us on the other side in order to take us over in some way. Am I on the right track?

A: Hoping is incorrect idea.

Q: (T) Okay, what was it they were trying to do by enticing us?

A: Trying is incorrect idea, continue to probe for learning opportunity.

Q: (T) We were 3rd density STO at this time. Was this after the battle that had transpired? In other words, were we on our own at that point, as opposed to before?

A: Was battle.

Q: (L) The battle was in us?

A: Through you.

Q: (T) The battle was through us as to whether we would walk through this doorway... (L) The battle was fought through us, we were literally the battleground. (T) Was the battle over whether or not we walked through that door?

A: Close.

Q: (T) Okay, we were STO at that point. You have said before that on this density we have the choice of being STS or STO.

A: Oh Terry, the battle is always there, it's "when" you choose that counts!

Q: (T) This must tie into why the Lizards and other aliens keep telling people that they have given their consent for abduction and so forth. We were STO and now we are STS.

A: Yes, "When" you went for the gold, you said "Hello" to the Lizards and all that that implies.

Q: (T) Okay, that was what I was trying to get at. You said that the Lizards, or the forces of STS opened the door.

A: No. Shouldn't say opened. We said "opened" only to introduce you to the concept, so that you would understand.

Q: (L) So, let's let go of the part that somebody "opened" the door. (T) The door was always there and always open. I was just trying to work with the analogy. So, the concept is that, as STO beings we had the choice of either going for the gold or not. By going for the gold, we became STS beings because going for the gold was STS.

A: Yes.

Q: (T) And, in doing so, we ended up aligning ourselves with the 4th density Lizard Beings...

A: Yes.

Q: (T) And by doing so we gave 4th density STS permission to do whatever they wish with us?

A: Close.

Q: (T) So, when they tell us that we gave them permission to abduct us, as many people have reported from their abduction experiences, it is this they are referrring to?

A: Close.

Q: (J) Go back to what they said before: "Free will could not be abridged if you had not obliged." (T) We, as the human race, used our free will to switch from STO to STS. (L) So, at some level we have chosen the mess we are in and that is the Super Ancient Legend of the Fallen Angel, Lucifer. That is us. We fell by falling into that door, so to speak, going after the pot of gold, and when we fell through the door, the serpent bit us!

A: But this is a repeating syndrome.

 

[Ollie]

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Lots of us know just how hard you are all working and do really, really appreciate it! My thanks to you and all!

Ditto!

I totally agree, too. Thanks.

 

[luke wilson]

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Hey, sorry if my question was abit vague.

I understand that before the fall, we were in a sort of 4d state. That is how the Cs said it. A sort of 4D state. Technically, in the script you post truth seeker, T is the one who says, 3 D STO. The Cs dont say what density level. They just say we were STO before. I remember in one session, early 2000's Laura asked another question on account of someone else, where the person was abit confused because he didnt understand what direction we were coming from, like, were we coming from animal - 2D to 3 D then 4 D. Or were we coming from a level higher than 3D coming down?

I suppose what I was wondering, where were we, 2 cycles ago, before the semi-4D STO state? And anyways, the Cs say we never occupied bodies then - in the last cycle... What did we occupy? I suppose that is not important.

What I just wanted to know, is what they mean by,

"But we would like to point that all "souled" individuals are members of a fragmented 6D soul/being. "

and

"Q: (L) Are the souls of individual humans the parts of a larger soul?
A: Yes. Close. The One. All who have fallen must learn "the hard
way."

I dont know if my thinking is wrong, but I took it that they meant in this instance, the "larger soul" is a 6D soul group which is now "fragmented." As a result of this fragmenting, there has been a fall or maybe a series of falls? I dont know. That is why I am asking for clarification. When they say we were in a 4D sort of state during the last cycle, do they mean the whole soul group was intact and that the deception by the lizzies is what led to fragmentation? Because if I understand correct, lizzies are 4D and these particular fragmented soul group was 6D "Lucifer" so how can they like, be deceived into choosing physicality by something 2 levels down...

What does that mean? Also with respect to "soul smashing" when the Cs say, that some souls might get smashed into primal matter, I mean, a very horrible picture is popping up here.... From 6D fragmented group to semi 4D sto to 3D STS and some people are going to go to primal matter now... That to me looks like a downward spiral...

Also, I am abit confused aswell interms of the use of the word "Lucifer" because Laura asked once with respect to David Icke the question of lucifer and if he was like, somekind of soul group gone rogue or something, but the Cs answered it/lucifer acted as a balancing thing, bringing balance to creation... Is this the same soul group that humans belong to?

Maybe my questions dont matter for this particular reality we are in and I suppose there is no way of finding out answers or maybe I just completely misread and misunderstood the whole thing.

Also note in the script that you post they say,

(L) So, at some level we have chosen the mess we are in and that is the Super Ancient Legend of the Fallen Angel, Lucifer. That is us. We fell by falling into that door, so to speak, going after the pot of gold, and when we fell through the door, the serpent bit us!

A: But this is a repeating syndrome.

Implying that, you know, people need to learn! These thing is repeating and when is it gonna stop!! I think Laura went on to ask about whether this was only specific to humans but they said it was the whole of creation - I cant remember exactly because I dont know what yr the transcript is from..

 

[Gonzo]

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When you put light through a prism. You see a rainbow. Does one colour fall to become another or do they all exist st the same time? Perhaps that's a way to look at the various densities.

Gonzo

 

[dannybananny]

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I see that word, divine didnt go down well. I simply meant they have a better view. A broader view because they are in 6th density. In these respect they can act like a beacon in the darkness guiding us safely to shore. I think monotheism is when you start to worship them.

Ok, it's hard to know exactly what we think in written word so thanks for clarification. But also I don't think they guide us, we guide ourselves, they said they aren't here to guide us for hand, but to give us rather tips for learning and sometimes knowledge that isn't available for public. I was more referring when speaking on monotheism about that feeling that people like Christians and others have, that they'll be saved because they are worth more then others because of their belief, I'am not saying you said that, just clarifying here my thought.

The Cs said that human beings were Lucifer, the fallen angel and that they were part of a fragmented 6D group. I cant figure out for the life of me, what can lead a 6D group to be fragmented and please dont answer, they chose to be fragmented... why would they choose to be fragmented, because they felt like coming back down and re-learning some old lessons? thus distancing themselves further from 7D where if I understand correct is what everything is hoping to reach at some point. So according to my 3D Linear Thinking, it is clearly illogical to choose to come back down again, willingly...

A: Yes. But we would like to point that all "souled" individuals are members of a fragmented 6D soul/being. When they begin to connect with their future/higher centers, this implies a natural connecting with the other members of their soul group.

I think one has to also consider that all instance of time, every single moment, is actually happening simultaneously but we in 3-D can only see time in a linear fashion.

Laura's soul group from the future, her higher self, so to speak, had access to all time while we only see time as a progression.

When the creator chose to create, both creation and entropy were the result. When creation chose to experience all that is (or itself), it had to lower its vibration into various frequencies, forming densities of awareness, all at the same time.

There was no fall from higher densities. The fall, as far as I know, was from STO 3-D (hybrid 3- and 4-D) into the current state of physicality and STS-ness.

Someone please correct me if I have misunderstood this or not explained it well.

I think Gonzo explained it well and that maybe we don't get real concept here when they say 6D soul, maybe they were talking about "future", that is some souled individuals will be 6D soul unit if like Gonzo said all is now, and they also said that more soul is developed it can separate itself more(something in that context i think), so some part of being from 6D can incarnate here and live this life and after it go to 6D, but also hole being from 6D could incarnate here for one or few lifetimes then go back to 6D if it's mission is to help, so it isn't a fall. But i think this second option isn't really applied here because they said all soul beings are 6D soul being and I think that it doesn't really hold to water that all 6D incarnated here and now, would they all go through lessons they already did - I don't think so.

On the STO thing, I think they also said that if you all of a sudden became STO you would also kind of disappear so I am abit confused because the lady in question did not like disappear..

I think it was more like if you accomplish 100 per cent STO profile that you go to 4D automatically, In the book I read, that is Peaceful Warrior something similar happened and that guys that did it were probably like Buddha or Jesus, so much in touch with themselves and very, very developed.

I suppose what I was wondering, where were we, 2 cycles ago, before the semi-4D STO state? And anyways, the Cs say we never occupied bodies then - in the last cycle... What did we occupy? I suppose that is not important.

You got it right I think with your answer to your question. Does it really matters in the end?

 

[Nienna]

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Luke Wilson, I don't know if this answers your question or not, but here it is. :)

Q: (L) Does the interaction between the spirit/soul and the
body physical produce some by-product that is desirable to
other beings?
A: Well, all things have desirable consequences as well as
undesirable consequences, but it must also be mentioned here
that everything that exists in all realms of the universe can
experience existence in one of only two ways. That would be
defined as a long wave cycle and a short wave cycle. Going
back to your previous question about why humans are
"entrapped" in physical existence, which, of course, is
voluntary and chosen, this was due to the desire to change
from the long wave cycle experience of completely what you
would call ethereal or spiritual existence, to the short wave
cycle of what you call physical existence. The difference is that
a long wave cycle involves only very gradual change in
evolution in a cyclical manner. Whereas a short wave cycle
involves a duality. And this is the case with souls in physical
bodies as is experienced on this earth plane because the soul
experiences an ethereal state for half the cycle and a physical
state for the other half of the cycle. While these halves are not
measured in time the way you measure time, the totality of
experience is equal in each half. The necessity to form the
short wave cycle was brought about through nature through
the natural bounds of the universe when the group mind of
souls chose to experience physicality as opposed to a
completely ethereal existence.

 

[realitybugll]

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I have to ask myself why the transcripts seem to have greater value than other information we have already accumulated.
I know I haven't exhausted a 10th of all the information either available or recommended.

the C's are a sixth density being or soul group. that is why the sessions entice me. it's amazing when you think about it. the C's have learned all lessons of 3d they exist outside of linear time. to hear spoken words from them (or literally... written via the Ouija) is amazing to me. stunning! and when the C's speak in "real time" i.e not an old transcript it makes it even more exciting/amazing.

I think I know that reading the newest session, pondering it for a bit, possibly forgetting about it, then waiting for the next one... is not going to help me relative to other things. to answer your question I think the information has value to me because it is coming from such a "prestigious" source. what they say isn't just written in a book by any old author, it is truth coming from higher up. not to say that the info can't be misinterpreted or distorted in transmission.

Basically it is pleasure for me reading the newest transcript. it is exciting and fun. at the same time--I hadn't thought of this before--it kind of holds the members here together in some way. I know there was along period (writing of the wave) where the C's weren't contacted. I think with the imminent approaching Wave, the sessions also gain more significance to me.

I was waiting for this thread to be dug up. I was hoping it would be actually. I have been waiting.

So, when I find myself wondering when the next session transcript will arrive, I now question myself about my expectations. Am I somehow defining how others should behave out of some form of convenience for myself? Am I fueling self importance or false self image? There is a lot to ponder when we find ourselves placing expectations on others.

I don't really get this. A lot of times I do wonder when the next session will be up. I am just wanting it to happen. I don't expect laura to meet any time constraints--I just really appreciate the sessions and "desire" them. Even thought this imposition or desire is unrealistic it is still there... I agree there is something to be learned from this wanting and desire but I don't see how you make the conclusion that one would be fueling self importance. at least I don't consciously "expect" a session from Laura in time intervals.

I see you are just raising some questions... well it is something to think about.

how about this: I think I feel some "emotional bond" with the C's. this might also contribute to the value the communications hold for me. I have done what is not advised and I do wade into the full (most names are removed) transcripts. the C's manifest some kind of human persona with their humor and all...

for instance

Q: (L) In our cultural experience we have a lot of very strange things that our young people participate in. Among these activities is the use of extremely loud stereo systems that quite literally vibrate the cells in their bodies until they turn to jelly. Could you tell me, please, the long term physiological effects of this kind of exposure of the human body to these loud booming noises?
A: Strange thought patterns.
Q: (L) What effects are these violently loud stereos having on people?
A: Varies.
Q: (L) Are these effects negative?
A: Open.
Q: (L) Are these effects less than conducive to optimum health?
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) What can these very loud booming sounds do to the body?
A: Make the body go "boom boom." (Much laughter)

 

[truth seeker]

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I think I know that reading the newest session, pondering it for a bit, possibly forgetting about it, then waiting for the next one... is not going to help me relative to other things. to answer your question I think the information has value to me because it is coming from such a "prestigious" source. what they say isn't just written in a book by any old author, it is truth coming from higher up. not to say that the info can't be misinterpreted or distorted in transmission.

What does this mean for you? Do you feel privileged or important by having access to this information?

Basically it is pleasure for me reading the newest transcript. it is exciting and fun. at the same time--I hadn't thought of this before--it kind of holds the members here together in some way. I know there was along period (writing of the wave) where the C's weren't contacted. I think with the imminent approaching Wave, the sessions also gain more significance to me.

While it is fun to read the latest transcripts, you may also want to keep in mind that there is much work to be done on our part. Without us doing anything, simply reading the transcripts alone without doing the necessary work may be no different than reading horoscopes in that we feed that part of us that wants to feel special/different.

I was waiting for this thread to be dug up. I was hoping it would be actually. I have been waiting.

and

So, when I find myself wondering when the next session transcript will arrive, I now question myself about my expectations. Am I somehow defining how others should behave out of some form of convenience for myself? Am I fueling self importance or false self image? There is a lot to ponder when we find ourselves placing expectations on others.

I don't really get this. A lot of times I do wonder when the next session will be up. I am just wanting it to happen. I don't expect laura to meet any time constraints--I just really appreciate the sessions and "desire" them. Even thought this imposition or desire is unrealistic it is still there... I agree there is something to be learned from this wanting and desire but I don't see how you make the conclusion that one would be fueling self importance. at least I don't consciously "expect" a session from Laura in time intervals.

While you say that you don't expect Laura to meet time constraints, you may want to rethink this. If a transcript doesn't come out "on time", you begin to wonder why this is so because it has become expected that they are posted roughly every month. While this is natural, your need to know what's going to be said overrides the thought of why the transcripts may be taking more time to come out. It's a form of internal consideration/self importance. Your need to know is more important or of more value than the needs of others.

how about this: I think I feel some "emotional bond" with the C's. this might also contribute to the value the communications hold for me. I have done what is not advised and I do wade into the full (most names are removed) transcripts. the C's manifest some kind of human persona with their humor and all...

See the above paragraph. You may want to consider that you are feeding some part of yourself that has difficulty with patience - the self important part that says "But I want it now!". This situation is actually good practice for that. In this life, we can become used to instant gratification - getting what we want when we want it. Many times we find that as soon as we let go of the expectation for something to happen, it seems to occur quicker than we think. Hence the saying, "A watched pot never boils.".

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[ScioAgapeOmnis]

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If you wait for the next transcript with anticipation while twiddling your thumbs then you should consider doing something useful - it will keep the anticipation at bay. If you're busy researching, or reading some of the hundreds of phenomenal books mentioned on this forum, or managing a blog to help sott spread the word, or any other creative endeavor, or anything else for that matter, you'd not have time to sit there wondering when the next transcript will be posted. There is much work to be done, and so much fascinating material to read and ways to get involved and contribute! If you're doing all of that, you won't have time to be impatient or anxious. And you know, time flies when you're having fun, and learning is fun, so if you really wanted to see another transcript soon, you'd stay busy and not think about it, and just let it come if/when it does. Again, it's easy to not think about it if you have things to be doing - something educational, productive, and enjoyable at the same time. Conversely, a watched pot never boils. Cliche but true!

 

[Ollie]

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If you wait for the next transcript with anticipation while twiddling your thumbs then you should consider doing something useful - it will keep the anticipation at bay. If you're busy researching, or reading some of the hundreds of phenomenal books mentioned on this forum, or managing a blog to help sott spread the word, or any other creative endeavor, or anything else for that matter, you'd not have time to sit there wondering when the next transcript will be posted. There is much work to be done, and so much fascinating material to read and ways to get involved and contribute! If you're doing all of that, you won't have time to be impatient or anxious. And you know, time flies when you're having fun, and learning is fun, so if you really wanted to see another transcript soon, you'd stay busy and not think about it, and just let it come if/when it does. Again, it's easy to not think about it if you have things to be doing - something educational, productive, and enjoyable at the same time. Conversely, a watched pot never boils. Cliche but true!

Spot on, I totally agree. :)

 

[Azur]

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If you wait for the next transcript with anticipation while twiddling your thumbs then you should consider doing something useful - it will keep the anticipation at bay. If you're busy researching, or reading some of the hundreds of phenomenal books mentioned on this forum, or managing a blog to help sott spread the word, or any other creative endeavor, or anything else for that matter, you'd not have time to sit there wondering when the next transcript will be posted. There is much work to be done, and so much fascinating material to read and ways to get involved and contribute! If you're doing all of that, you won't have time to be impatient or anxious. And you know, time flies when you're having fun, and learning is fun, so if you really wanted to see another transcript soon, you'd stay busy and not think about it, and just let it come if/when it does. Again, it's easy to not think about it if you have things to be doing - something educational, productive, and enjoyable at the same time. Conversely, a watched pot never boils. Cliche but true!

Well said, Socio.

I'll add to that by saying that it is very, very easy to fall into the trap of thinking that the Cs are an Oracle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle

The trap is individual: it specifically relates to how the phenomenon of the Cs is carried in conscious thought.

 

[realitybugll]

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truth seeker,

What does this mean for you? Do you feel privileged or important by having access to this information?

yes I do actually feel really privileged. I am one of a couple thousand maybe ten's of thousand that have encountered this source of knowledge (the C's). I don't know if it makes me feel "important". I think it does a little bit. I sometimes think... 'its so sad..these people don't know about 6th density beings... and they will probably never learn about higher truths.' I pity people i guess. just part of me, I mean--I know that 6th density isn't all that matter--and focusing on interpersonal relationships and life (having experiences) in this 3d is probably better than knowing or reading words from 6th density without comprehending or without the necessary experiences to utilize the information.

Many times we find that as soon as we let go of the expectation for something to happen, it seems to occur quicker than we think. Hence the saying, "A watched pot never boils.".

yes i agree this does seem true for me a lot of the time. I can compare the cassiopaean monthly transcripts to saturday morning cartoons when I was a small kid. eh I'm not sure a really looked forward to cartoons. hm. I played this card game and I went to "regional tournaments" every few months. that is probably more similar.


I think what your telling me is that if I truly understood the work that is being done by QFS (or whoever--FOTCM) then the desire for the monthly session I have would lessen.

I do realize that my desire for the transcript is kind of illogical. I mean sometimes after I read it--I am even dissapointed i.e the C's didn't reveal the master plan of disaster and when it is to come... a lot of the desire is because I view the C's as "prophets", future tellers... I want to know what is going to happen. okay I'm going to stop or I'll just talk/"type" in circles.

 

[Jacques]

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I pity people i guess. just part of me, I mean--I know that 6th density isn't all that matter--and focusing on interpersonal relationships and life (having experiences) in this 3d is probably better than knowing or reading words from 6th density without comprehending or without the necessary experiences to utilize the information.

Please do remember what the C's said about pity:

Can you comment on the nature of pity?
A: Pity those who pity.
Q: But, the ones who are being pitied, who generate sensations of pity, do not really pity anybody but themselves.
A: Yes...?
Q: Then, is it true as my son said, when you give pity, when you send love and light to those in darkness, or those who complain and want to be "saved" without effort on their own part, when you are kind in the face of abuse and manipulation, that you essentially are giving power to their further disintegration, or contraction into self- ishness? That you are powering their descent into STS?
A: You know the answer!