cat urine issue

[liam1310]

one of our cats is not well he,s four years old passing blood in his urine we brought him to the vet yesterday they kept him in
over night to take urine sample and xrays the vets rang this morning and said he is very distressed and cant take a sample
because he has not passed any urine yet, there going to sedate him to take a sample and an xray
he jumped into the bath the other day he never done this before thats when we noticed the blood after he passed urine and seems to be struggling
to go, the vets are going to ring later today there eager to get him home as he is so distressed, he has never been to the vets so is probably really confused
were worried about him, anyone know what could be causing this is there anything we can do for him,

thanks Liam

 

[osher]

(I'm not a vet) First thing that comes to mind is kidney problems due to bad diet, especially after sterilization. Do you feed him dry fodder? Or just raw meat? There's been article on sott recently about feeding pets.

 

[lilyalic]

My dog had the same last year, blood in his urine. Turned out to be a massive kidney infection..

here's the link to the SOTT article Osher is referring too:

http://www.sott.net/article/293218-SOTT-Exclusive-Natural-Pet-Health-How-dry-food-is-killing-your-pets

What is dry food?

It's a highly processed mix, dried and ground to powder, that is comprised of various animal meats from cattle, swine and chicken, or restaurant waste and out-of-date supermarket meat, and yes, even so-called road kill or cows that died on the farm but never reached the slaughter house. It also includes non-meat parts, such as intestines, lungs, spleens, unborn fetuses, diseased or parasitized livers, cut-away tumors, and other parts unsuitable for human consumption.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3wLTlqnMMg

 

[Z...]

it sounds like your cats suffers from urinary crystals. They are very common in cats fed commercial diets, due to imbalance in Calcium and Phosphorus and insufficient acidity of urine. This is nothing major and it will easily be resolved with course of antiinflamatories and antibiotics, but it will reoccur regularly as long as the cat is on inappropriate diet. However if he is not passing urine there might be blockage and they will need to insert a catheter as this can be life threatening.
Once the blockage is resolved your vet will probably prescribe "special" medicated diet your cat needs to stay on till the rest of his life, which in hardly a solution because it is still highly processed and species inappropriate diet.

For a fast relief I usually advise ascorbic acid ( vitamin C) powder, 500mg daily mixed with food to lower the acidity of the urine. Also the cat needs to go on species appropriate diet sooner then later.
For more info visit this website www.catinfo.org

 

[Keit]

For a fast relief I usually advise ascorbic acid ( vitamin C) powder, 500mg daily mixed with food to lower the acidity of the urine. Also the cat needs to go on species appropriate diet sooner then later.
For more info visit this website www.catinfo.org

Just in case it's a typo or maybe I am missing something, but maybe you meant "increasing the acidity of the urine"?

Also, Liam, until you'll fully change the diet of your cat, make sure that he has plenty water at all times, and better give as much moist food as possible.

 

[trendsetter37]

For a fast relief I usually advise ascorbic acid ( vitamin C) powder, 500mg daily mixed with food to lower the acidity of the urine. Also the cat needs to go on species appropriate diet sooner then later.
For more info visit this website www.catinfo.org

Just in case it's a typo or maybe I am missing something, but maybe you meant "increasing the acidity of the urine"?

Also, Liam, until you'll fully change the diet of your cat, make sure that he has plenty water at all times, and better give as much moist food as possible.

Hmm I am thinking he meant lower the pH, which increases acidity. However, liam1310 I will say that our cat had a very similar problem as far as I can tell from the information you gave. The remedy that worked for us were massive doses of Vit C (probably a gram or more daily with water, raw liver, and chicken) and no more fish which fixed him up and he is still doing awesome ever since that urinary bought that happened over a year ago now.

You can read the details here in this thread. Hope you're able to get to the bottom of this soon; sorry your little guy is having to go through this. Keep us updated!

 

[Z...]

Just in case it's a typo or maybe I am missing something, but maybe you meant "increasing the acidity of the urine"?

Also, Liam, until you'll fully change the diet of your cat, make sure that he has plenty water at all times, and better give as much moist food as possible.

Hmm I am thinking he meant lower the pH, which increases acidity.

correct thanks, I was thinking of ph and wrote acidity

 

[Nienna]

I am posting this for Keit and Z.

I knew someone a while ago who had an older cat who had this problem. This was way before I found Laura and the forum. She was told that the only way to correct a condition where crystals accumulate in the urethra, if I remember where they collect correctly, was to actually make the male cat into a female.

What are your thoughts on this? I think I know that it would be to change the diet to a natural cat diet, but I'd like to hear what you have to say to what this vet said.

 

[loreta]

Is there something in Homeopathy for this situation?

 

[liam1310]

we have 2 indoor cats 2 outdoor never fed them commercial food always raw ground up chicken we add vitamins to it
he visits our neighbor who feeds her cats commercial cat food dry kibbles i imagine this is the source of the problem he is the only
one that eats dry cat food when he comes in he goes straight for the water bowl the rest of our cats rarely ever drink from the water bowl they get it from there food i might have to pay her a visit and kindly ask her to stop feeding him kibbles
im going to visit the vets now to pick him up and see what the vet has to say ill report back what they say
thanks for reply's everyone

 

[Z...]

I am posting this for Keit and Z.

I knew someone a while ago who had an older cat who had this problem. This was way before I found Laura and the forum. She was told that the only way to correct a condition where crystals accumulate in the urethra, if I remember where they collect correctly, was to actually make the male cat into a female.

What are your thoughts on this? I think I know that it would be to change the diet to a natural cat diet, but I'd like to hear what you have to say to what this vet said.

I am not sure what do you mean by "make a male cat into a female" but if you meant neutering it - that doesn't really make sense. Maybe her vet meant that male cats are more predisposed then females. Toms suffer more from this problem due to very long, narrow and curved urethra. In females this problem often goes undetected until they start peeing blood. Males on the other hand most often develop complete urinary blockage and present as emergency. Catheterization of a tom cat is something I think every vet dreads, you cannot push too hard because urethra is delicate but then crystals often coalesce with dead cells to form stubborn plugs which wont budge, I discovered that injecting few drops of IV vitamin C solution before the catheter often helps.

 

[Z...]

Is there something in Homeopathy for this situation?

Yes Belladona 30c often helps but there are other symptoms to consider which may lead to choice of better remedy. Remember homeopathy works best on the totality of symptoms not just one, but in emergency situation one dose of BEL 30c can be safely given for relief.

 

[MusicMan]

Just one more viewpoint: Our female cat had a similar problem. The advice from the vet was to take her off the tinned fish that I had been feeding her. Apparently tinned fish is not good for cats. So much for me spoiling her!
Anyway I could never get her to eat the raw chicken wings that were suggested, and after the period of feeding her the veterinary diet (pellets) to heal her condition, we got her to eat the 'Whiskas' brand of pellets mixed with some other more moist packetized foods, and I would vary the 'flavours' so that she got some variety.
But no more tinned fish.
She survived to the age of 19, not bad for a cat.

 

[Nienna]

I am posting this for Keit and Z.

I knew someone a while ago who had an older cat who had this problem. This was way before I found Laura and the forum. She was told that the only way to correct a condition where crystals accumulate in the urethra, if I remember where they collect correctly, was to actually make the male cat into a female.

What are your thoughts on this? I think I know that it would be to change the diet to a natural cat diet, but I'd like to hear what you have to say to what this vet said.

I am not sure what do you mean by "make a male cat into a female" but if you meant neutering it - that doesn't really make sense. Maybe her vet meant that male cats are more predisposed then females. Toms suffer more from this problem due to very long, narrow and curved urethra. In females this problem often goes undetected until they start peeing blood. Males on the other hand most often develop complete urinary blockage and present as emergency. Catheterization of a tom cat is something I think every vet dreads, you cannot push too hard because urethra is delicate but then crystals often coalesce with dead cells to form stubborn plugs which wont budge, I discovered that injecting few drops of IV vitamin C solution before the catheter often helps.

Sorry for not being more clear, Z. The vet was talking about making it so that the male cat actually urinated like a female - getting rid of the penis, I guess.

Thank you for the info you have given. And, I can image what a problem it would be to use a catheter on something so small.

 

[loreta]

Is there something in Homeopathy for this situation?

Yes Belladona 30c often helps but there are other symptoms to consider which may lead to choice of better remedy. Remember homeopathy works best on the totality of symptoms not just one, but in emergency situation one dose of BEL 30c can be safely given for relief.

Thank you very much. My ex-homeopath always used to say that homeopathy works very well on pets and children. This, for her, was a proof that homeopathy is not a placebo thing, as the majority of people think. It is good to know that in case of urgency there is always something to help. Thanks!