candasiri
Jedi Master
The intent of my question is to dig a bit further into the history of the Celts and the stone structures that they may have built and utilized...in New England.
Growing up in New England, I have been surrounded by mysterious stone structures—stone walls in the middle of the woods that go nowhere and don't seem to demarcate anything (like a former colonial field), stone chambers, boulders perched on smaller stones, stone cairns.
This documentary, "Secrets of the Stones" has a good summary of what these structures look like:
There is even a Stonehenge-type site in rural western Massachusetts:
Burnt Hill Stone Circle
As the video Then there’s a place in Salem, NH that is actually called “America’s Stonehenge:”
Exploring America's Stonehenge in New Hampshire
These all were clearly deliberately built and not by early settlers as some have hypothesized as they pre-date them. Others have attributed these structures to Native Americans. Another theory is that the Celts built them. New England Native Americans deny being the architects.
The below quote is from the following link:
Lost Histories: The Story of New England's… | Winter 2013
“Bart Johnston’s backyard in rural Chittenden County, Vermont, affords an incredible view of Mount Mansfield. On the fine summer day that I visited, Johnston asked me to consider a third possibility – that ancient European mariners were the ones who built these hard-to-explain stone structures. As we walked through the woods behind his home, he pointed out impressive dry-masonry structures with unusual features. The stones were enormous. The largest ones must have weighed several tons each. And they were all meticulously oriented 22° north of east. When we came upon a particularly massive and beautifully crafted stack of stones, he stated passionately, “A bunch of hardscrabble, backwoods farmers did not build this.” Nor did Native American builders, Johnston believes. “I think they’re Celts.”
Johnston’s theory is that thousands of years ago New England was home to groups of ancient Celtic peoples who crossed the Atlantic from Europe, and that the structures near his home represent an ancient ritual site. Johnston is not alone in this belief. In our tour of his property, we were joined by spirited members of the New England Antiquities Research Association (NEARA), an organization dedicated to researching unusual stone sites. Across the Northeast, this community of enthusiasts, intrigued by sites like the one at Johnston’s property, have joined together to identify, document, and try to explain them. Many NEARA members vigorously support the idea that these structures are evidence of pre-Columbian settlers from ancient Europe.
At the heart of this controversial idea is the largest and most impressive stone site in New England – Mystery Hill, in Salem, New Hampshire, also known as America’s Stonehenge. Of all the hundreds of stone ruins across New England, none has garnered more attention. A complex of chambers, walls, and standing stones, this site has attracted visitors for over a century.
I asked Dennis Stone, whose family has owned and managed the site as a museum since the 1950s, who he thought built the structures at Mystery Hill. “It’s not conclusive,” he said, “but we think that the site and other sites in New England suggest Old World visitation to the New World from the Mediterranean Sea and the Iberian Peninsula.” He states that an excavation at one of the America’s Stonehenge chambers unearthed charcoal that was radiocarbon dated to about 4,000 years ago, that a number of stone tools were found there, and that the stones of the chambers were quarried without metal tools, using Stone Age techniques. There are striking similarities with structures in the Old World. “The size, shape, and orientation of these structures look very much like what’s on the other side of the ocean,” he said.
Then there are the unusual astronomical alignments. Inspired by the other Stonehenge (in England), the Stone family began clearing around the large, arrow-shaped, vertical stones at Mystery Hill to find out if, perhaps, they had some astronomical purpose. By 1973, they’d discovered a number of astronomical alignments, and by 1977, they had surveyed so many that they felt that there must be some significance. Various stones through the site could be used to observe the movements of the sun on the solstices, equinoxes, and the cross-quarter days that fall midway between them. Others marked the lunar standstill and the passage of the moon through its 18.6 year cycle. There were 24 different star alignments. “I don’t think they’re coincidental,” Dennis told me. “You can only have so many before it becomes something you have to assume was set up deliberately.”
And Mystery Hill isn’t the only site with these kinds of alignments. In Massachusetts, Byron Dix and Jim Mavor have carefully documented the alignment of stone chambers that observe the rise of the Pleiades over distant cairns. “The odds against random location,” they concluded, “and therefore favoring purposeful design for astronomical purposes are considerably greater than one million to one.”
But astronomical alignments are not the strangest of the mysteries that Stone describes. He also tells of two triangular stones excavated at Mystery Hill and inscribed with text-like markings. These stones sat in America’s Stonehenge’s museum with no explanation until Barry Fell, of Harvard University, visited the site in 1975. Fell, a translator of ancient inscriptions, took an interest in the stone tablets. “His conclusion,” Stone told me, “was that one [of the inscriptions] was Libyan. But it was difficult to make out what the inscription said. Part of it was pretty weathered. It looked like it was partly missing. The other was identified as being Iberian Punic or Phoenician. It said the structure was supposed to be dedicated to Baal on behalf of the Canaanites.
A marine biologist by profession, Barry Fell is best known for his book, America B.C.: Ancient Settlers in the New World, which popularized the idea that ancient mariners crossed the Atlantic Ocean to trade, explore, and settle in the Americas. Fell claimed to have translated inscriptions found across eastern North America, which showed that Iberian Celts had settled New England 3,000 years ago. Here they founded a kingdom named Iargalon, and settlements supposedly continued until the early days of the Roman Empire. Phoenician and Egyptian traders were said to have made regular visits to the American coast and intermarried with Native people to become the Wabanaki of northern New England and the Maritimes. He even claimed to have found inscriptions showing that Egyptians and Libyans penetrated the Mississippi River watershed as far as Iowa, the Dakotas, and Arkansas.”
The name Baal peaked my curiosity. If I am understanding correctly, Baal is the sun god worshipped in Scotland among other histories may be a reference to the ancient goddess Ma-gog, who according to Lethbridge, was the goddess of the Celts. She seems to come in many forms, old woman, fair woman. But it seems that she was essentially the earth mother and was especially important when catastrophe struck. When Christianity came to Europe, she transformed into the Black Madonna.
Laura writes in the thread about The Black Madonna Re: The Black Madonna
Village Story
Laura quotes Lethbridge:
From the transcripts we know that Stonehenge acted as a transducer of information (Session :
From Session 19 February
A: The Matriarch Stone.
Q: (L) Is the Matriarch Stone the one in Mecca?
A: Symbolism reigns supreme here.
Q: (T) Is this also the Philosopher's Stone?
A: "Stone" to those you perceive as ancients symbolized communication from "a higher source."
Q: (L) What is it about a stone that made the ancients associate it with communication?
A: Radio waves.
Q: (L) How did radio waves interact with the stone? Were they recorded by the stone; transmitted by the stone?
A: Transmission.
Q: (T) Crystals are stones. Crystals are used for radio transmissions.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And it was said before that Stonehenge was a giant transmitter and receiver. The original purpose of Stonehenge was to receive communication and to send communication. It wasn't all that Druid HooDoo stuff that people talk about nowadays. It was a machine, so to speak. (J***) Could it be that people who come in contact with a stone in one place, and then they go to another place and come in contact with another stone, transfer something from one stone to another?
A: Well, one strengthens their abilities due to awareness channel grooving.
Q: (L) What gets strengthened from contact with the stones?
A: Your abilities.
3rd: What were the stone chambers used for? Many line up to mark equinoxes but did they have another purpose?
From 15 April 2000:
L) Exactly. This is what I have always thought about these megaliths. They DID things. All of the things we think are the "signs" of civilization were done by the stones. Maybe Terry is right; these people were at some level of density where they could make this work. At some point, something happened, the ability was lost, and then people had to build cities, engage in agriculture, invent the wheel, and develop writing - because they could no longer do it the "easy" way. …
A: Stones were once utilized to provide for all needs, as the energies transmitted connected directly with the pituitary gland to connect spiritual realities with the material realms of 3rd and 4th densities. So you see, the "stone" was viewed as Matriarchal indeed!
Q: (L) Were the beings involved in this type of activity 3rd density, 4th density or bi-density?
A: Originally 4th when home was in other locators.
Last question: What happened to Celts/Kantekkian ability to use stones to provide for all their needs? What degraded it?
Thanks! I don't know if these are worthy questions but I've found the megaliths in New England so intriguing. Feel free to add or critique.
Growing up in New England, I have been surrounded by mysterious stone structures—stone walls in the middle of the woods that go nowhere and don't seem to demarcate anything (like a former colonial field), stone chambers, boulders perched on smaller stones, stone cairns.
This documentary, "Secrets of the Stones" has a good summary of what these structures look like:
There is even a Stonehenge-type site in rural western Massachusetts:
Burnt Hill Stone Circle
As the video Then there’s a place in Salem, NH that is actually called “America’s Stonehenge:”
Exploring America's Stonehenge in New Hampshire
These all were clearly deliberately built and not by early settlers as some have hypothesized as they pre-date them. Others have attributed these structures to Native Americans. Another theory is that the Celts built them. New England Native Americans deny being the architects.
The below quote is from the following link:
Lost Histories: The Story of New England's… | Winter 2013
“Bart Johnston’s backyard in rural Chittenden County, Vermont, affords an incredible view of Mount Mansfield. On the fine summer day that I visited, Johnston asked me to consider a third possibility – that ancient European mariners were the ones who built these hard-to-explain stone structures. As we walked through the woods behind his home, he pointed out impressive dry-masonry structures with unusual features. The stones were enormous. The largest ones must have weighed several tons each. And they were all meticulously oriented 22° north of east. When we came upon a particularly massive and beautifully crafted stack of stones, he stated passionately, “A bunch of hardscrabble, backwoods farmers did not build this.” Nor did Native American builders, Johnston believes. “I think they’re Celts.”
Johnston’s theory is that thousands of years ago New England was home to groups of ancient Celtic peoples who crossed the Atlantic from Europe, and that the structures near his home represent an ancient ritual site. Johnston is not alone in this belief. In our tour of his property, we were joined by spirited members of the New England Antiquities Research Association (NEARA), an organization dedicated to researching unusual stone sites. Across the Northeast, this community of enthusiasts, intrigued by sites like the one at Johnston’s property, have joined together to identify, document, and try to explain them. Many NEARA members vigorously support the idea that these structures are evidence of pre-Columbian settlers from ancient Europe.
At the heart of this controversial idea is the largest and most impressive stone site in New England – Mystery Hill, in Salem, New Hampshire, also known as America’s Stonehenge. Of all the hundreds of stone ruins across New England, none has garnered more attention. A complex of chambers, walls, and standing stones, this site has attracted visitors for over a century.
I asked Dennis Stone, whose family has owned and managed the site as a museum since the 1950s, who he thought built the structures at Mystery Hill. “It’s not conclusive,” he said, “but we think that the site and other sites in New England suggest Old World visitation to the New World from the Mediterranean Sea and the Iberian Peninsula.” He states that an excavation at one of the America’s Stonehenge chambers unearthed charcoal that was radiocarbon dated to about 4,000 years ago, that a number of stone tools were found there, and that the stones of the chambers were quarried without metal tools, using Stone Age techniques. There are striking similarities with structures in the Old World. “The size, shape, and orientation of these structures look very much like what’s on the other side of the ocean,” he said.
Then there are the unusual astronomical alignments. Inspired by the other Stonehenge (in England), the Stone family began clearing around the large, arrow-shaped, vertical stones at Mystery Hill to find out if, perhaps, they had some astronomical purpose. By 1973, they’d discovered a number of astronomical alignments, and by 1977, they had surveyed so many that they felt that there must be some significance. Various stones through the site could be used to observe the movements of the sun on the solstices, equinoxes, and the cross-quarter days that fall midway between them. Others marked the lunar standstill and the passage of the moon through its 18.6 year cycle. There were 24 different star alignments. “I don’t think they’re coincidental,” Dennis told me. “You can only have so many before it becomes something you have to assume was set up deliberately.”
And Mystery Hill isn’t the only site with these kinds of alignments. In Massachusetts, Byron Dix and Jim Mavor have carefully documented the alignment of stone chambers that observe the rise of the Pleiades over distant cairns. “The odds against random location,” they concluded, “and therefore favoring purposeful design for astronomical purposes are considerably greater than one million to one.”
But astronomical alignments are not the strangest of the mysteries that Stone describes. He also tells of two triangular stones excavated at Mystery Hill and inscribed with text-like markings. These stones sat in America’s Stonehenge’s museum with no explanation until Barry Fell, of Harvard University, visited the site in 1975. Fell, a translator of ancient inscriptions, took an interest in the stone tablets. “His conclusion,” Stone told me, “was that one [of the inscriptions] was Libyan. But it was difficult to make out what the inscription said. Part of it was pretty weathered. It looked like it was partly missing. The other was identified as being Iberian Punic or Phoenician. It said the structure was supposed to be dedicated to Baal on behalf of the Canaanites.
A marine biologist by profession, Barry Fell is best known for his book, America B.C.: Ancient Settlers in the New World, which popularized the idea that ancient mariners crossed the Atlantic Ocean to trade, explore, and settle in the Americas. Fell claimed to have translated inscriptions found across eastern North America, which showed that Iberian Celts had settled New England 3,000 years ago. Here they founded a kingdom named Iargalon, and settlements supposedly continued until the early days of the Roman Empire. Phoenician and Egyptian traders were said to have made regular visits to the American coast and intermarried with Native people to become the Wabanaki of northern New England and the Maritimes. He even claimed to have found inscriptions showing that Egyptians and Libyans penetrated the Mississippi River watershed as far as Iowa, the Dakotas, and Arkansas.”
The name Baal peaked my curiosity. If I am understanding correctly, Baal is the sun god worshipped in Scotland among other histories may be a reference to the ancient goddess Ma-gog, who according to Lethbridge, was the goddess of the Celts. She seems to come in many forms, old woman, fair woman. But it seems that she was essentially the earth mother and was especially important when catastrophe struck. When Christianity came to Europe, she transformed into the Black Madonna.
Laura writes in the thread about The Black Madonna Re: The Black Madonna
Interestingly, in the town of Acton, MA where there is a stone chamber and miles of stone walls there is a "Magog Orchards" a "Nagog Rd" and it is said that "Magog" is the Native American word for water (at least for the tribe that lived there in the past).
Village Story
Laura quotes Lethbridge:
I'm not sure what was bringing the catastrophe, whether the Perseid meteor showers or the passages of Venus.
My first question would be: are the Celts the creators of the stone walls, the cairns, the stone chambers, the balanced boulders in New England?
From the transcripts we know that Stonehenge acted as a transducer of information (Session :
From Session 12 July 1997
2nd: Were the cairns and stone walls built in New England as conductors of information from a higher source? Or were they used for something else? If so what were each used for?
From Session 19 February
(L) Okay, we've got the soul or mother stone. Or the mother of all stones. Now that we have a definition, what was it?
A: The Matriarch Stone.
Q: (L) Is the Matriarch Stone the one in Mecca?
A: Symbolism reigns supreme here.
Q: (T) Is this also the Philosopher's Stone?
A: "Stone" to those you perceive as ancients symbolized communication from "a higher source."
Q: (L) What is it about a stone that made the ancients associate it with communication?
A: Radio waves.
Q: (L) How did radio waves interact with the stone? Were they recorded by the stone; transmitted by the stone?
A: Transmission.
Q: (T) Crystals are stones. Crystals are used for radio transmissions.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And it was said before that Stonehenge was a giant transmitter and receiver. The original purpose of Stonehenge was to receive communication and to send communication. It wasn't all that Druid HooDoo stuff that people talk about nowadays. It was a machine, so to speak. (J***) Could it be that people who come in contact with a stone in one place, and then they go to another place and come in contact with another stone, transfer something from one stone to another?
A: Well, one strengthens their abilities due to awareness channel grooving.
Q: (L) What gets strengthened from contact with the stones?
A: Your abilities.
3rd: What were the stone chambers used for? Many line up to mark equinoxes but did they have another purpose?
From 15 April 2000:
L) Exactly. This is what I have always thought about these megaliths. They DID things. All of the things we think are the "signs" of civilization were done by the stones. Maybe Terry is right; these people were at some level of density where they could make this work. At some point, something happened, the ability was lost, and then people had to build cities, engage in agriculture, invent the wheel, and develop writing - because they could no longer do it the "easy" way. …
A: Stones were once utilized to provide for all needs, as the energies transmitted connected directly with the pituitary gland to connect spiritual realities with the material realms of 3rd and 4th densities. So you see, the "stone" was viewed as Matriarchal indeed!
Q: (L) Were the beings involved in this type of activity 3rd density, 4th density or bi-density?
A: Originally 4th when home was in other locators.
Last question: What happened to Celts/Kantekkian ability to use stones to provide for all their needs? What degraded it?
Thanks! I don't know if these are worthy questions but I've found the megaliths in New England so intriguing. Feel free to add or critique.
