Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history
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Ruth
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Cool! Part of a poem by Sir Walter Scott! (I googled it,
). I'd like to dedicate it to Netanyahu! He's more than worthy of it, or maybe Stalin or Hitler?
Lay of the Last Minstrel, Canto VI, [My Native Land]
Breathes there the man, with soul so dead
I'll be clearer: I don't think what was written should be considered a criminal offense or grounds for censorship and I think courts in the US would agree. There is a high bar for restricting free speech, as there should be. Saying "Elon should be next" or whatever is not enough to restrict their speech or charge them with breaking the law.meadow_wind said:
I'm personally against hate speech laws and tight censorship. We should allow people to say hateful things, that way we know who they are. Censorship just hides the psychos. I'd rather they be allowed to speak and show their true colors so the rest of us can identify them.
There's a small chance it could also have the opposite effect, if not in the immediate/short term. As in, "to hell with it, they're just killing anyone and everyone now, I might as well speak out and do what I can".
I've watched Candace and Tucker speak about it today. I don't get the sense either of them are going to back down. Megyn Kelly put the question of being worried about speaking out to Tucker:
That's actually a really good point! Although I am not comfortable with allowing people to utter death threats and incite murder, in person or online.
Amazon allows you to put any date as the originally published date. This seems like just a cheap AI-produced book intended to generate money due to the high profile of the shooting. Whoever created the listing either just entered the date wrong (it pulls up a calendar and you click on the date you want), or deliberate set it for the day before. Either way, not very suspicious.
Here's the FBI page with the photos and video:
Utah Valley Shooting Updates | Federal Bureau of Investigation
Updates on the FBI's investigation into the Utah Valley University shooting on September 10, 2025.
www.fbi.gov
It's certainly your choice to accept AI garbage. There's also another choice to stop relying on AI.
Free speech is always uncomfortable.
Ruth
The Living Force
This is an ex-FBI agents 'take' on the incident called Kyle Seraphin in the first 32.20 minutes. His takeaway - not a professional shooter. Anyone who hunts deer could make that shot and Kash Patel should not have announced a 'suspect in custody'.
The whole video is just over an hour, but the first 32.20 minutes is from the ex-FBI agent, and worth listening to, for a law inforcement perspective. He had the same question many people (including me) had about the photograph released by the FBI - context and where's the firearm?
The whole video is just over an hour, but the first 32.20 minutes is from the ex-FBI agent, and worth listening to, for a law inforcement perspective. He had the same question many people (including me) had about the photograph released by the FBI - context and where's the firearm?
