Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[Puma]

Grok says about the book



A glitch in the matrix. And it seems no one knows Anastasia J. Casey.

I couldn’t find any reliable, confirmed information about an established public figure named Anastasia J. Casey. What is known is that the name has appeared recently in media related to a controversial Amazon book called “The Shooting of Charlie Kirk: A Comprehensive Account of the Utah Valley University Attack, the Aftermath, and America’s Response,” which was attributed to “Anastasia J. Casey.” ChatGPT

 

[Ruth]

I thought this post by Joe was quite à propos:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966068582879551816

Cool! Part of a poem by Sir Walter Scott! (I googled it, ). I'd like to dedicate it to Netanyahu! He's more than worthy of it, or maybe Stalin or Hitler?

Lay of the Last Minstrel, Canto VI, [My Native Land]

Breathes there the man, with soul so dead

poets.org

 

[Beau]

Isn't this considered promoting hate & violence + instigating murder? Isn't it considered a criminal offense?

So, what I get from this is: people can say almost whatever they want online, and there will be no legal consequences. Of course, saying a name + next won't be eligible for legal action.

I'll be clearer: I don't think what was written should be considered a criminal offense or grounds for censorship and I think courts in the US would agree. There is a high bar for restricting free speech, as there should be. Saying "Elon should be next" or whatever is not enough to restrict their speech or charge them with breaking the law.

I'm personally against hate speech laws and tight censorship. We should allow people to say hateful things, that way we know who they are. Censorship just hides the psychos. I'd rather they be allowed to speak and show their true colors so the rest of us can identify them.

 

[Ninas]

His body just arrived in Arizona.

 

[Carl]

You've got to think this also sends a message to Trump and company not to step out of line. You could hardly blame them. If Bobby Kennedy was a little worried about getting the family treatment from Israel, this is only going to make him less likely to say anything.

There's a small chance it could also have the opposite effect, if not in the immediate/short term. As in, "to hell with it, they're just killing anyone and everyone now, I might as well speak out and do what I can".

 

[Beau]

There's a small chance it could also have the opposite effect, if not in the immediate/short term. As in, "to hell with it, they're just killing anyone and everyone now, I might as well speak out and do what I can".

I've watched Candace and Tucker speak about it today. I don't get the sense either of them are going to back down. Megyn Kelly put the question of being worried about speaking out to Tucker:

 

[Beau]

Candace's video tribute to Charlie is incredibly heartbreaking. She calls him her little brother and best friend. Does she seem like the type to back down?

 

[Beau]

Yeah the wave of lib-left nihilism over Kirk's murder is palpable even on my X timeline, which is usually - because I like to keep it that way - a fortified conservative echo-chamber.

A whole lotta people out there are now barely recognisable as 'humans'.

Tucker spoke on this today

 

[meadow_wind]

We should allow people to say hateful things, that way we know who they are. Censorship just hides the psychos. I'd rather they be allowed to speak and show their true colors so the rest of us can identify them.

That's actually a really good point! Although I am not comfortable with allowing people to utter death threats and incite murder, in person or online.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

This is very interesting. On September 9, Amazon published a book called "The Shooting of Charlie Kirk."

Amazon allows you to put any date as the originally published date. This seems like just a cheap AI-produced book intended to generate money due to the high profile of the shooting. Whoever created the listing either just entered the date wrong (it pulls up a calendar and you click on the date you want), or deliberate set it for the day before. Either way, not very suspicious.

 

[Ninas]

Some updates:

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Some updates:

Here's the FBI page with the photos and video:

Utah Valley Shooting Updates | Federal Bureau of Investigation

Updates on the FBI's investigation into the Utah Valley University shooting on September 10, 2025.

www.fbi.gov

 

[Beau]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966338789208444962

 

[daddycat]

Isn't this considered promoting hate & violence + instigating murder? Isn't it considered a criminal offense?

Do you mean it as sarcasm, as in "it's illegal, but everyone does it and gets away with it" kinda thing?
Because I did a quick lookup with Grok, and it would seem it's illegal

Grok is not lying. It answered my question concisely regarding what is deemed criminal.

It's certainly your choice to accept AI garbage. There's also another choice to stop relying on AI.

That's actually a really good point! Although I am not comfortable with allowing people to utter death threats and incite murder, in person or online.

Free speech is always uncomfortable.

 

[Ruth]

This is an ex-FBI agents 'take' on the incident called Kyle Seraphin in the first 32.20 minutes. His takeaway - not a professional shooter. Anyone who hunts deer could make that shot and Kash Patel should not have announced a 'suspect in custody'.

The whole video is just over an hour, but the first 32.20 minutes is from the ex-FBI agent, and worth listening to, for a law inforcement perspective. He had the same question many people (including me) had about the photograph released by the FBI - context and where's the firearm?

https://rumble.com/v6ysyp6-charlie-kirk-assassination-fbi-updates-with-fbi-whistleblower-kyle-seraphin.html?