Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

Approaching Infinity said:
Could be nothing, but this is curious:
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This sounds like an unofficial incident of the JFK assassination. Can't remember relevant names and retelling best I can, but maybe someone will know what I'm referencing. A fellow (I think a member of the military) hitched a ride in a military transport plane that stopped and picked up two passengers, one that looked like Oswald (guy didn't know that at the time), but had to be a doppelganger. I believe the two were dropped off at another point - out in the desert (may have been Roswell)? The guy told his wife about the incident once they realized JFK had been assassinated. He tried to inform authorities, wasn't believed and either was or just threatened with repercussions if didn't shut up. Best I can do on this fractured memory - too long ago to even think where to look as to where I learned of it. It was a real incident.
 
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2 students wounded in shooting at Evergreen High School in Colorado; suspect dead, officials say
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The shooting occurred just before 12:30 p.m. local time at Evergreen High School in the Colorado foothills, about 28 miles southwest of Denver, according to the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office. The suspect was believed to be a student at the school, Jacki Kelley, a sheriff's office spokesperson, told reporters in a news briefing. His identity has not been released.
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And apparently a school shooting in the same day.

Whatever they want to do, they want to do it now!
 
Looks like Kirk was called out for posting and recording 'anti-semitic' stuff in Oct. 2023. There's a timeline in the following.

www.mediamatters.org

Charlie Kirk turns to antisemitic stereotypes amid Israel-Hamas war

Turning Point USA founder and right-wing radio host Charlie Kirk is responding to the Israel-Hamas war by singling out and attacking Jewish people. Kirk has repeatedly pushed antisemitic tropes and called out Jewish individuals and donors, baselessly blaming them for fueling “Jew hatred” on...
www.mediamatters.org www.mediamatters.org
 
JEEP said:
Interesting that Trump declared Charlie a martyr.
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These where my thoughts as well. I didn't follow Charlie to often and didn't know the affect he had on a huge number of young people in support of traditional values. His death has galvanized that spirit within them I'd think, what he represented just became stronger. Apparently a lot of money was made available to him and I wonder if that came from Israel. A promising star becomes a threat.
 
Revolucionar said:
I bet the shooter turns out to be a they/them Palestine supporter complete with nose ring and blue hair.
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No
These are calculated operations, just like with Trump's shooter, they had the autistic decoy (Crooks) and then had the real secret ops all over the place on the rooftops. Crooks wasn't the real , tractical trained shoorter.

same here, same with the church shooter, way too clean and polished.

Iryna's stabbing was more consistent with a derranged individual, sloppy, messy, etc. this was too perfect
 
Tried to search for the previously related tale on Yandex of man seeing Oswald doppelganger on military transport plane and dropped off in desert. The reply:
I can't answer this request. My responses are designed to be safe, respectful, and compliant with ethical principles. You may ask another question.
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I reworded the request slightly and got Coast to Coast Oswald doppelganger - that details two Oswalds being seen in Dallas the day of the assassination. Nothing on the story I was looking for. Not enough details to ask Grok although doubtful Grok would come up with anything.
 
mkrnhr said:
Political assassinations are not new, but this is different because the victim is an "influencer" if I understand correctly. I don't know if it's a sad day in history because of this, hundreds of people are being murdered at the same time including kids. It will depend maybe on how it is politically recuperated.
So far, I don't buy the "he was going to say something disagreeable about someone so they assassinated him". In those cases in general the victim is quietly suicided. This is different because it's a public execution meant to provoke an emotional response and to construct a narrative around it. The organizer of a public assassination doesn't need to be on an "opposing side" if it serves its cause.
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Considering the fact that there was a church shooting aw eek ago, the stabbing last week and a shooting today in Colorado and Charlie 3 hours later.

It leads me to think they want to roll out something NOW.


I don't necessarily think it is about him being an influencer, it was more about the size of that event, and the timing and how shocking it was to see it.
They wanted people to SEE it.

Even people who didn't like his stances understood he knew the problem and was starting to step out of the line.

And many people have stepped out of the line befoee so the difference is the timming IMO.

They are trying to traumatize and shock the population. I would not be surprised if the shootings continue and greenbaum people start going off all over the place.

I think they are trying to roll out the israeli mass surveilance system and take the guns.

Just that the narrative around the shooter seems very sloppy, it TOTALY looks like a proffesional , navy seal type of sniper shot. The shooter narrative is gonna fall appart.
 
Phill4 said:
No
These are calculated operations, just like with Trump's shooter, they had the autistic decoy (Crooks) and then had the real secret ops all over the place on the rooftops. Crooks wasn't the real , tractical trained shoorter.
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Crooks was more like a manchurian candidate. Probably the FBI had a great deal to do with recruiting him and training him. That's why he had to be killed and his body disposed of before it could point back to an inside job.
 
mkrnhr said:
So far, I don't buy the "he was going to say something disagreeable about someone so they assassinated him". In those cases in general the victim is quietly suicided. This is different because it's a public execution meant to provoke an emotional response and to construct a narrative around it. The organizer of a public assassination doesn't need to be on an "opposing side" if it serves its cause.
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Yes, the organizers, as you say, well know the value of symbols, especially if it can impact and usher in more divides and chaos. Not saying Charlie was not taken out by someone just gone off kilter, yet as an influencer, there may be larger premeditated reasons done by the usual suspects.
 
JEEP said:
Tried to search for the previously related tale on Yandex of man seeing Oswald doppelganger on military transport plane and dropped off in desert. The reply:


I reworded the request slightly and got Coast to Coast Oswald doppelganger - that details two Oswalds being seen in Dallas the day of the assassination. Nothing on the story I was looking for. Not enough details to ask Grok although doubtful Grok would come up with anything.
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Of course AI won't tell you.

The answer is JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters - James Douglass.
 
daddycat said:
Of course AI won't tell you.
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Yes, I sadly noticed Yandex has incorporated AI as of late. 😞 Nevertheless, wasn't expecting the "I can't answer your request" response. Definitely gone over to the dark side. Guess I better find a different search engine that isn't AI - does one even exist now?

Thanks for the tip on my barely remembered Oswald tale. :flowers: It stuck in my mind except for the defining details.
 
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