Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[Ant22]

A sad day indeed. He was doing such a great job exposing the illogical arguments of the left - with tack and polite discourse. Something many on the right didn't bother to do. There were things I didn't agree with him on, his support for Israel being the biggest issue for me. But he certainly didn't deserve this. Neither did his family. He had two small children and a wife whose entire world has now collapsed. I really feel sorry for their loss. Whoever did this thought they were creating a victim - but they created a martyr and a symbol instead.

While I had pretty strong feelings about his subservient attitude towards Israel and Jews in general, I have lately been wondering if this is genuinely what he thought. Dunno, maybe blind spots make you THAT stupid that despite his sharp intellect he genuinely didn't have the ability to assess Israel's current actions and the wider truth about the Jewish history and religion - or he was just trolling Israel under the disguise of support, assuming those who can see through it will come to the right conclusions about Israel anyway.

Here's a video of a recent debate where a college student read out pretty disturbing quotes from the Talmud about Jesus and Christians, to which Charlie responded with agreement that these are genuine verses, but the Bible tells us to bless the Jews. I mean, seriously? Bless the people who preach such vile hatred of Christians and the Goyim in general? A man with his intellect cannot possibly be this blinded by the concept of the alleged Judeo-Christian tradition to not see what Judaism really if for Christianity and the world at large.

But then there is this video where he points a finger at the Jewish lobby and Jewish sponsorship as a cause of the problems the West is experiencing:

1.4K views · 70 reactions | I don’t think that Israel would kill Charlie Kirk for saying that! Why? Because the Jewish right and Israel’s rulers totally agree with Kirk about his criticism of the Jewish ‘progressives’ and secular ‘left’ being at th

I don’t think that Israel would kill Charlie Kirk for saying that! Why? Because the Jewish right and Israel’s rulers totally agree with Kirk about his criticism of the Jewish ‘progressives’ and...

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Interesting comment from Gilad Atzomon too (source is the FB link above):

"I don’t think that Israel would kill Charlie Kirk for saying that! Why? Because the Jewish right and Israel’s rulers totally agree with Kirk about his criticism of the Jewish ‘progressives’ and secular ‘left’ being at the root of Western disaster…

Yet, the message here is actually far greater. The fact that everyone , left, right and centre points the finger at the Jewish State suggests that Israel has bought itself a name of a psychotic, blood thirsty, mass killing entity."

As for the first paragraph, I'm not so sure he's right about that. I don't believe that the Jewish right and Israel’s rulers are against what's going on in the West and have no role to play in funding the nonsense. I think it's the Jewish right and Israel’s rulers that fund and enable the secular progressive Jews to do their bidding. If their goal is destabilisation of the West and creating chaos then what the secular Jews are doing plays into their hands beautifully. Also, aren't Zionists largely secular anyway?

But it's hard to disagree with him about the second paragraph. When I woke up this morning and started to read the report of his death and the events that led to it I just couldn't help but think of the usual suspects in little hats as being behind it. And I wasn't the only one with that thought. Judging by the sentiments on X. Since October 7 Jews have been doing such a terrific job at showing their true colours that no conspiracy that involves them seems too far fetched these days.

The C's once said that in the end everything will be blamed on psychopaths. Well, it's starting to look that it may be this specific group of psychopaths - or that specific group may be the catalyst at least.

 

[Ant22]

Thought this last night before bed. Probably one of the main reasons for killing Kirk was to distract from Tucker's documentary on 9/11 that comes out today (Sept. 11th), and which includes claims of "dancing Israelis" on 9/11.

Had the same thought, although not sure it's the main reason. Probably a combination: send a message to mainstream MAGA and the Trump admin, stir the pot, distract from the 9/11 stuff, and all that possibly in the context of a larger "program change" as to the future of the US/West...

Dunno, this may have been a contributing factor but given where many fingers are pointing with the blame this may actually end up being a marketing push for Tucker's documentary. Just look how many people are digging up all things related to Kirk's relationship to Israel on X.

 

[Beau]

From what Vance says Kirk sounds like a remarkable man to me that also ended in a position where he could influence and/or have a say in high level politics.

I have seen tweets from a few prominent people on X who said that they believed Kirk would have been president one day. It made me think that, in addition to what we've already brought up regarding motives for his assassination like distracting from Tucker's 9/11 series (which he's delayed releasing now), that maybe this was done by forces with knowledge of future events. Kirk was someone I could see being a strong force on the Right, a positive influence on millions of young conservatives. He could have been the face of Conservatism. Here's what Michael Knowles tweeted:

Charlie Kirk would have been president. His friends knew it. His admirers knew it. And his enemies knew it. This universal confidence in Charlie’s future began with his countless political accomplishments. At 18, he founded Turning Point USA, which went on to become the most important cultural organization on the American Right. By 22, he was addressing the Republican National Convention.

Three years later, he founded Turning Point Action, which led the get-out-the-vote efforts that delivered the first Republican popular vote victory in twenty years. In his spare time, Charlie published five books, hosted a national talk show, married a lovely wife, and fathered two beautiful children.

All of that by 31.Charlie’s appearance inspired as much confidence as his accomplishments. At a towering six-foot-five slouching, he joked that he had descended from the Nephilim—the giant “fallen ones” of the Old Testament. He might have been born with such a nature, as are we all, but he was not content to remain so. Charlie loved his Savior. The zeal with which he debated politics paled in comparison to the excitement with which he discussed religion. And his religious life bore fruit.

Turning Point launched a Faith division to focus specifically on his followers’ souls. There too, Charlie’s enthusiasm for open debate set the tone, as he invited atheists and even Catholics to take part. But he didn’t need a specific religious conference to convey his faith. Charlie Kirk’s religion bore fruit in everything he did.

Discerning observers believed in Charlie Kirk, not chiefly for his accolades or his appearance, but for his manifest virtue. Charlie’s prudence, the principal virtue in politics, built a generational coalition that helped to transform the American government. His temperance distinguished him as one of the few on the Right to eschew whisky, cigars, and every other delight that might have distracted him from his purpose, for which he had so little time. His sense of justice produced clarity in moral vision and grace for his opponents. His fortitude impelled him to enter the public square without a hint of servile fear.

Charlie’s only fear was the holy sort—awe and wonder, the beginning of wisdom—and his clearest virtues were theological: faith, hope, and charity. We mourn his death, we take up his cause, and we entrust him, as he confidently entrusted himself, to God’s care.

 

[Ninas]

They still haven't caught the assassin, but there's an interesting video that seems to question if this was a coordinated attack and those two men that were released were only decoys to stall the police.

Someone mentioned that it was really bizarre that an Ambulance was not present. Usually, for such large crowds, it's college policy to have one on sight.

If an ambulance were present, maybe he would have had a higher chance of survival.

I've heard that he had a bullet proof vest on and the bullet ricochet from his heart to his neck. If true, then Murphy's Law was definitely at play.

I'm just so sad for his family, they were on sight. Not sure, if his wife saw it happen though.

 

[undistinguished]

Yup. It's a marker of 'the woke mind virus' which is really just pathological/pathologized people. A real time example of the results of ponerology.

Here's two examples of how far/deep it spreads (if you weren't aware) - first in the comic book/video game industry (i.e. DC comics), and second in the open source software community (i.e. linux etc).

Like all of this - where does the energy go? Do people push back individually against corporations who tolerate/support this pathology, or do they call for (because it was one of the desired results by the PTB) ramping up of online ID's and censorship?

Energy goes where the media tells it should be directed... It's been quite shocking to realize just how thoroughly brainwashed the people are. Take the two examples, George Floyd and Charlie Kirk. A criminal drug addict robbing pregnant women at gun-point was declared a national hero, and the guy who liked to debate hot topics is a sub-human villain. . .

It's just insane. This world.

 

[Niall]

Great words from our country's leader, but we know the general idea of who and why all these things are happening is just more obfuscation of the real truth of the situation. Interesting that Trump declared Charlie a martyr. I don't remember anyone being characterized that way before, but maybe I just don't remember. (MLK?)

That stood out for me too. Together with this, from a speech he gave two days prior:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965076490963570785

 

[Mark7]

Doing what he did the way he did it got more Lefties to change their opinions than most anything anyone else ever did. He may have had some blind spots but he seemed to genuinely be trying to get people to change their minds and was on to something about how to do it.

Maybe that's why he was chosen. Too much heart and a perfect person to kill if you want to stoke tensions.

Liberals as we know them today, are generally a tough crowd, they don’t have a sense of loyalty to the tribe. Only a drive to race to the bottom, lift up the least among us to pay penance to some persecutor within their psyche like Don Juan’s ‘foreign installation’. Some people want to learn the hard way, tough crowd.

 

[cassandra]

So far no peep about it on german mainstream radio. And there probably won’t be anything they say about it in the future either. Which might be an indication that blaming Iran for it might not be part of the agenda since german mainstream is so fully bought and sold to the evil ones. He isn’t the most well known person by the way, especially in Germany I think.

I just saw this:

And this:

Also:

 

[Niall]

Here's a video by the guy who claims friends of Kirk said he was afraid Israel might kill him. Also captures the mood on the right pretty well. It's interesting how he pivots from "Israel did it" to attacking the left. Like, they somehow feel they can't do anything about Israel anyway, so they focus on the domestic situation and the political context at home.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965956626315358603

He's scared, naturally. He's already seen an InfoWars colleague gunned down outside their studio this year.

 

[Ryan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966096255064461612

Yesterday was a turning point for Israel US relations.

Les than 24 hours and the internet already figured out who the most likely culprit was.

He was their friend. He basically dedicated his life to them. And they murdered him in front of his family.

Israel just shot themselves

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965903763278877118

> He used to be an Israel loyalist
> He feared ‘Israel would kill him’
> He started *mildly* criticizing Israel
> He said Epstein was Mossad
> He let anti-Zionists speak at his events
> Zionist media started attacking him
> Someone shot his jugular 200 yards away
> Netanyahu tweets within minutes
> Patsy gets arrested & acts guilty
> Assassin escapes without a trace
> Netanyahu tweets longer message

Something tells me they’re not going to tell us the truth about who killed Charlie Kirk…

That stood out for me too. Together with this, from a speech he gave two days prior:

If the FBI link the "foreign intelligence" to Iran, then we basically have a slam-dunk case that it was Israel.

 

[Niall]

So far no peep about it on german mainstream radio. And there probably won’t be anything they say about it in the future either. Which might be an indication that blaming Iran for it might not be part of the agenda since german mainstream is so fully bought and sold to the evil ones. He isn’t the most well known person by the way, especially in Germany I think.

French MSM pundits are having a laugh about it:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966087624470212749

Dunno who they are, but French MSM is very much 'tribe-aligned'.

 

[Niall]

I don't think we're there yet, but I agree with the sentiment of this hot-take:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965877778336907613

Once again, events are conspiring to 'lift up' the far-right. Like, the actual far-right. The biggest reaction, by far, to this assassination I'm seeing is: "Israel did it."

 

[Niall]

Kirk on a recent (I think) podcast pretty much said organized Jewry is behind directed mass immigration:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965932682388652402

 

[Niall]

Could be nothing, but this is curious:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965940172660551877

Most likely the get-away vehicle.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966016500009246808

 

[Mark7]

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Israel may be behind this, but influential Jews have long supported the liberal movement. But college campuses are on fire with ‘anti-semitism these days. So Trump is rolling up his sleeves in an attempt to to enforce order. So many lessons, so little time.