Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

These are two different people - one from St. George and the other from Salt Lake City. St. George is close to Washington, UT, where Robinson lived. Tyler Robinson is a common enough name that it could just be another person.
You could absolutely be right, I was using info from Benny Johnson...I should have looked deeper...it is still strange to see donations to opposing groups.

I cant wrap my head around the level of hate directed at this young man... to be happy about a murder is demonic. If the most vile leader of the left had the same fate, I would not rejoice, and cant possibly comprehend being happy about it...knowing the pain and suffering the family will have to endure. This really feels like good vs evil.
 
You could absolutely be right, I was using info from Benny Johnson...I should have looked deeper...it is still strange to see donations to opposing groups.
I wasn't clear. The two donations are from two different Tyler Robinsons. The one in Salt Lake City donated to ActBlue, and the one in St. George donated to MAGA.
 
There's no evidence there were any such trans messages. There were allegedly anti-fascist messages typical of the "terminally online", though. (Bx commented on one.) His conservative family reportedly told police he had become very "political" lately. Either way, we don't know what his thoughts on trans were and it doesn't seem relevant.
I spoke too soon! Beau already posted the initial tweet from the Fox News reporter. Several others, like Benny Johnson and now Matt Walsh, have said that they have "confirmed" with sources that the roommate was Robinson's trans boyfriend:

 
It was interesting that less than a month ago Fuentes was blowing up on Youtube and Instagram (like the algorithims were seriously pushing videos about him, oddly all in a positive light), and now this. And just weeks ago Fuentes was coming down especially hard on Charlie Kirk. If all this starts to track, it looks like there has been something like a 'priming of the American mind' as we saw in Evidence of Revision with the JFK assassination.

Could very well be that Robinson was groomed in Groyper groups, and assisted in some way in the assassination.

Fuentes' popularity could also be organic. His rise seems to track with Israeli atrocities, so while you might have noticed a 'jump' recently, there've been a few such since Oct 7th. Also, Fuentes had been "coming down hard on Kirk" for years.
 
Does this (second) post indicate a second shot to the neck?:


By the way, George Webb has some very good metadata on this shooting, and the goings on in Utah. This is his latest, but the video before this very good too.
Sorry, but Gerge Webb has an awful track record, and maybe it's just me, but I don't trust anything he says.
 
The Utah Governor Spencer Cox held a press conference on the Charlie Kirk shooting in which amongst many other things he revealed the messages engraved on the bullets. They are essentially some edgy memes.
"Notices bulges, OwO what's this?"

"Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao"

"Hey fascist! Catch!" followed by an up arrow symbol, a right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols

"If you read this, you are gay LMAO"
The article below covers their various meanings if you have an interest.

The third one originating from the popular video game Helldivers 2 seemed to get some attention. Shortly after the governor's statement there were bot brigades across many video game related subreddits not only related to the game in question forcing many to shut comments for a time yesterday as the bot horde went from one target to the next. I became aware of it and just mention it here as evidence of a coordinated effort to stir up trouble and hatred.

The meme is a reference to the code to call in an airstrike in the game. The Helldivers game is a war game, horde shooter set against various alien factions with gameplay completely unrelated to assassination. The game features heavy satire akin to the Star Ship Troopers 1997 movie where the players fight for the tyrannical Super Earth as helldivers, heavily propagandised and brainwashed soldiers. Super Earth is a relentlessly aggressive galactic empire oppressing its own and other peoples and is utterly intolerant of dissent. The joke being it portrays itself as fighting for Freedom and Managed Democracy (you get a vote that is made for you by an algorithm). They are forever the victim despite being in a galactic war surrounded by hostile forces on all sides because of their own unceasing aggression.
In context the meme is a joke around the excessive force Super Earth will use to destroy those questioning or criticising them rather than engaging in dialogue.
I suppose if the governors’ statements are true, I find the use of the meme somewhat symbolic.

Note that the games online community has previously had minor troubles with players particularly from Israel who not only struggled to understand the games satirical nature but seemed to relate to it to their country’s current situation.
 
Anyone knows who this Patriotic Blonde is? She makes sense:


Okay. I'm going to anger many of you here and many of you are going to choose to "unfollow" me and let me start by saying I truly do not care. Unlike many paid "influencers," I make no money off my social media so there is no financial interest in my keeping you here. This isn't prison. Each and every one of you are under no obligation to be here and you are completely free to go. You will not hurt my feelings in the slightest.

Let me also note that I not only voted for Donald Trump during all three of his presidential runs and worked for his 2016 presidential campaigns, but I knew Charlie Kirk. We were in no way best friends by any means, but I met him several times at various campaign events and considered him a friend. He was a good and decent man.

That said, there have been a lot of theories in regard to what happened to Charlie Kirk since his murder on Wednesday and several people have asked me what my theory is.

I don't have a theory. As a former victims rights advocate and Officer of the Court assigned to hundreds of criminal cases, and being trained to spot inconsistencies in investigations, I was quickly able to put the pieces together based on the official story, which simply made no sense.

One of the most notable aspects relating to Charlie Kirk was his very public praise of Donald Trump. Charlie was a tremendous Trump supporter and was very open and vocal regarding his advocacy of the Trump administration. He was also very pro-Israel. Both are something that stood firm all the way up to the weeks just prior to Charlie's assassination. In his final weeks, if you go back and watch those final interviews and his final shows, he had begun to openly question Mossad. He also said it may be time to question Mossad's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein and its influence on the government.

When that happened, that made him a liability.

I am not saying in any way shape or form that I believe Donald Trump had anything to do with Charlie Kirk's murder.

I AM saying I believe the same people who are controlling Trump and who ordered him to do an about face on the Epstein issue, murdered Charlie Kirk.

Having someone who was such a strong public advocate for the president beginning to openly question Israel's involvement in influencing our government, at that point, made him a liability
. Charlie had a tremendous reach and an enormous platform with Turning Point. When he began to question who was actually running our government, he stopped being an asset and became a liability.

I believe Trump came into this with, and retained all the way up to his second election in November, the best of intentions and a true desire to save America from the Deep State. But I believe the powers that be pulled him aside after Butler and told him that if they had wanted to kill him that day, they would have, that he should consider that a warning shot and that if he refuses to play the game going forward that they will by no means miss next time. I also believe they have compromising information on him that they are threatening to make public, whether that be about him or one of his children, I do not know, but I believe the combination of the information they have on him and their threats to kill him or harm his family is why he pulled back on the Epstein issue.

Charlie had begun to make the connection.


It is clear to me based on all the information I've reviewed and all thats occurred in the weeks and months leading up to Wednesday that Charlie Kirk was murdered by members of the US Government in connection with and at the direct orders of Mossad.

It was done publicly in order to send a very clear and direct message to anyone else with a platform who may dare to publicly question the system.
 
Same poster (Degainz) reposting a post on Kirk's security team:

Lot of theories thrown around saying it is not their security team. Is that a red flag? Now a days, things gone so advanced we never know. In any case, here is one woman is too sure of it is not security.
- Green shirt guys clear image
Interesting pro and con argument in the following tweet comments
one interesting comment.
Guns can be camouflage to look like anything they want, i have seen prosthetic hands as guns
 
Charlie brought up some interesting things in the video below (this is from 2 years ago):

-He wonders: Was there a stand down (on Oct 7)?
-He says: "Bibi and the Israeli hard right govt has a mandate... I gotta be careful the way I say this... to... they're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. [laughs nervously] I don't use that term lightly. They're talking about basically removing 2.5 million people. Honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge. They do. This idea that they need to have a truce or a peace treaty, that's morally crap after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged through the streets, but there are some serious questions here. And let me tell you, my pattern recognition over the last 5 years has become pretty sharp: Covid, Maui fires, Epstein... when I see a story and it doesn't click, our guts are usually right."

He also says he's "very pro Israel" in the clip and kind of backtracks after wondering about whether Netanyahu had any foreknowledge of the attacks. Either he's treading carefully to protect himself because questioning Israel is 'not done', or there was a battle going on inside of him, between his beliefs about Israel being good and holy, and seeing information about Israel that contradicts his beliefs. Or both.


(Apologies if this was already posted, I didn't find it when I searched for it in this thread)
 
Nearly choked on my tea when watching this: Netanyahu asked on Newsmax (I believe yesterday, Sept 12th) for his response to "internet rumors Israel was behind assassination of Kirk"...


The channel is obviously pro-Israel, so the anchor wasn't trying to trip him up or anything, but his apparent surprise at being asked meant his answer was, well, awful, IMO.

All he had to say was "this is absurd," which he did, and then follow up worth something nice to say about Kirk and his family, which he (or one of his staffers) have already done on his X account.

But instead, stammering a fair bit, he launches into a history of "blood libels against the Jews," going back to the Middle Ages!

It's also interesting that the anchor even asked about it at all, showing that the biggest 'blink' reaction in the general public to the news of Kirk's assassination was "Israel did it" - so big that even a system-believing normie like her noticed it.
 
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