Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[Cosmos]

Maybe in order to gain a better perspective on what might be going it would be helpful if people here share some of the experiences they personally had with lefty people since the Kirk assassination? If possible, it would be helpful to limit this explicitly only to those people you know personally. And preferably (but not necessarily exclusively) how they reacted/interacted outside of internet and/or social media bubbles when you interacted with them in real life. In that way we might gain a better perspective on what is going on outside possible bubbles on the internet that might or might not be representative. And maybe not only in the “western“ world but outside of it.

I go first. First, a summary with three points for context:

- The lefty guy I interacted with is a german living in Germany. He is retired and old (around 75) and is what you could most certainly call an old school hippie type of lefty who is also strongly anti-fascist. He was a doctor. I would think/say he is a honest, hard working and decent man. Despite that, he has a history of following almost all mainstream nonsense, sometimes to the extreme, while he sometimes seems to also think critically and not go along fully.

- For example, during Covid, he went as far as telling near by authorities in his city out of his own volition that he would like to and/or be willing and happy to inject people with the Covid shots in his spare time! Undoubtedly, he did that partly because he firmly believed he would be doing something good with it. I‘m pretty sure that he has pretty much zero connection to the internet, which in a lot of ways is foreign to him because he is old.

- As for the environment/atmosphere in Germany: I think it is safe to say that Germany in a lot of ways has been on the forefront of lefty BS for many years in the west, while strong opposition to that has arisen in the population in the last 10 years or so. At the same time I think it is safe to say that almost nobody in Germany ever even heard of Kirk before the assassination, including probably the majority of alternative people that can speak/understand english. I don’t know how much Kirk was discussed in the mainstream since the assassination, but I would guess it is quite a lot less compared to america.

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With the context above, here is what he personally said to me on Saturday when we were meeting:

- Out of his own drive he brought up the guy that was shot (Kirk). So, somehow what happened went through to him despite the context above. Now, I’m not certain what exactly he meant to say about Kirk because I can’t exactly remember it and because he brought up a couple of historic names as comparison I think. But, I know that the last name he was giving as a comparison was “billy the kid“. So I think he again basically is following the mainstream line and is thinking of Kirk in terms of a daring but historical criminal. And I‘m not sure, but it seems like he wasn’t all that concerned/sad about what happened either and maybe even happy about it.

Another point that complicates things:

The same guy was/is vocal about the injustice and cruelty Israel is committing against Gaza/Palestinians. And that started early on after October 7. And it seems like that many (even extreme) lefties were much more vocal and on point on what is happening in Israel/Gaza much earlier than many people on the right. Sometimes I wondered though how much of that is really an inert/felt/natural/organic reaction of those people guided by a moral compass because it almost seems like even there many only do it if it is somehow sanctioned/acceptable from an external authority/atmosphere to speak and think like that? And today that seems to be often based on what is accepted in the mainstream, and often strongly influenced in that regard by mainstream media. Yes, speaking up like that against what is happening in Gaza seems quite brave/good but there was and still is a clear and accepted stream/atmosphere in the mainstream that makes it ok to talk/think like that. The term “authoritarian followers“ comes to mind.

 

[Seppo Ilmarinen]

I like to think of different layers that can give perspective to these type of historical events. First one is individual/ideological layer, which is where perhaps majority of ordinary people are stuck. They see the individual motive(s) driven by some ideological and psychological factors but nothing more. These can be read correctly or not, and in the case of Robinson it seems like there's some vagueness on purpose (even though it's becoming more clear he was a radical leftist type) in order to feed the division between left and right. Perhaps the most objective assessment inside this layer is to realize that personality disorders take many forms and different pathological ideologies are manifestations of this psychological reality (and that in our current time liberal leftist ideology has been the main weapon to deform societal norms and values).

But still, it's lacking the perspective and historical understanding of the second layer, where the sociopolitical environment is shaped by the 'hidden hand' of intel agencies and powerful forces behind the scenes, which are not looking for the best interest of ordinary citizens. Reading about history reveals this as a repeating and constant fact, but for a large part of population they represent authority and thus can't be seen as malevolent. This level/layer is often obscured by projecting the "threat" to some foreign entity (Russia, China, Iran). In the case of Charlie Kirk, we can notice the evidence that he was becoming more critical towards Israel and it's influence in the United States. There is also the wider geopolitical context, the genozide in Gaza and other voices like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owence who the PTB would like to silence. Robinson may have been the one pulling the trigger, although there's surprisingly little security camera footage released so far, but looking from this layer it's probable that he was manipulated online (and possibly in real life) and likely had (unknowingly) a secret team behind to make sure he succeeds in his "mission".

Third layer would be spiritual. The understanding that both good and evil exists and have potential to act through all of us. That the higher cosmic reality is being expressed and becoming reality down here through our individual choices. In this sense we are mere actors who choose their roles, knowingly or not, and these events serve as catalysts for the process. Knowledge of hyperdimensional control system is the more nuanced and sophisticated understanding (that only a "handful" of people on this planet is aware of). But each time they violate the free will of people this reality is being exposed, and even though masses would lack the proper terms to describe it, (and it can be hijacked by rigid religious/ideological thinking) they have the innate ability to come to this conclusion (the existence of spiritual realms interacting 'down here'). As earlier in the thread was posted podcaster Theo Von's recent comments on Charlie Kirk's assassination, where he says that "it always feels like there's something bigger and evil in the distance, hiding...that's kinda laughing a little".

Just some thoughts.

 

[Alana]

All that said, we also should remember Paul's words: truth is crucial, but without love, it all matters little. Truth and love need to go hand in hand, and they do, really: we should love the truth so much that we can get to the bottom of things, and also find a place of love in ourselves by seeing the world truthfully. Which is why Joe's words above are still true: seeing the "brainwashed masses" not as the perpetrators, but the victims of powerful evil forces. It's a spiritual battle, and we need to be on guard not to misdirect our justified anger.

That's pretty much my take. And that's not to say that these "radical leftists" have not caused a lot of suffering and dysfunction in society, they clearly have, but when we realise that they are instrumentalised by the ptb, we should, I think, pause before responding in the standard way and consider that such a response may be precisely what the ptb intend.

But everything I'm saying here is aimed at the show watchers, hoping to avoid them from jumping over the fence and joining the fray, even if only emotionally and psychologically.

This reminds me of something Tucker Carlson said to Megyn Kelly the day after Charlie's murder. He had received a lot of messages that night, from people worrying about his safety and condolences for the death of his friend. But the one that stood out to him and he took it at heart came from his cousin who wrote something to the effect of: fervently seek wisdom at this time. It spoke to me deeply too, because it is somehting I've been seeking for myself these last 2 years.

Since the IDF started their Gaza butchering, I’ve been struggling to tame intense feelings of anger and hatred against the evil doers. I remember listening to the hit song “Boom Boom Tel Aviv” during Iran’s retaliation back in June, with glee, when a deeper voice in me asked: aren’t you like them now? I can give many reasons why I (and tons of others) had every reason in the world to celebrate the Iranian bombing, but I also understood what that part of myself tried to tell me. The last few days I have been disturbed to read pro-palestinian people that I follow, express the same glee at the news of Charlie’s death. I might have never liked him due to his pro-zionist stance if I knew of him before, but I don’t think I would be celebrating his death.

What I am realizing is that evil is hateful so that it can “have us” through hate.

So I don’t think we should be engaging with evil, materially or emotionally, only point it out for what it is. If I learned anything from Charlie’s debates is that he engaged with people from “the other side” with love in his heart for them, and that’s why he was able to touch some of them and bring them to his side. The more we mock and hate and are angry at the “others”, the more energy and power we give them and the more they crystallize where they are. And that’s what I see happenning on social media and it’s not good for anyone.

Didn’t the C’s say at some point something like, don’t fight against people but for your destiny? And how many times did they remind us that it’s the soul that matters?

As I see it, in a diseased-body analogy, the sociopolitical life in 3D Earth now is at the point where the cancer has metastasized all over. All systems are rotten, there’s no cohesion or dialogue between the various organs and systems (institutions and nations), there’s no immunity apparatus (political stucture) that will eliminate the pathological elements for us because they are also infected. Physically, “the patient” has a slim chance of regaining their full health again. We need a miracle. And miracles happen through spiritual means. There’s very little we can do as individuals materially for the rest of the world. And even if it doesn't save the collective body, it will certainly save ourselves, if we focus on taking care of our souls and avoid the traps that STS evil overlords have set in every corner.

After 20 years I finally understand what it means: sit back and watch the show.

 

[axj]

An old regular of the SOTT radio show hit the nail on the head with saying there hasn't been a really effective left wing since the birth of neoliberalism in the Reagan/Thatcher era, which broke the back of the trade and labor unions. Ever since then inequality has just gone up and more and more power has been concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people, more jobs offshored, more immigration, and technology and AI only enhance this trend.

Exactly. The real or traditional left has always been against the oligarchy and in this regard there is no longer any meaningful difference between the traditional left and the right (which has become much more anti-oligarchy or anti-deep-state).

Traditional leftists like Jimmy Dore or Sarah Wagenknecht in Germany agree on most major issues with the "right-wingers", so that it is fair to say that the left-right classification is indeed obsolete.

 

[SOTTREADER]

I didn't know of Charlie until this event. Very sad indeed, and so young.

A lot of the discourse seems to be cebtered around the left v right paradigm. My own personal experience is most people whilst they claim to either align with the left or right actually are both left and right and it's only individual views that they hold that either align either way.

Putting left v right to one side, I think the whole thing here is ponerization versus normal/healthy views. Here's a mental experiment, assume the right "wins" (whatever that means), how long until it's fully ponerized that normal people start clamouring for the left. And so we go in circles over centuries.

In my view, this whole thing is futile so long as we are aligned with 4D STS. There's no being free from suffering under the 4D STS umbrella, which is what this is all about.

It's really sad that Charlie died. He was clearly a key actor on stage for the play that is going on today and the script had it such that he needed to die. He can now be spoken about in the same group as all those who went before him that met a similar fate, Caesar, MLK, JFK and countless others. Tragedies, all tragedies.

People say things will change...that his death will lead to a change. Depends what people mean I guess. It certainly won't lead to ceasing of the needless suffering the world over, including in America.

My mom sometimes tells me that it's not the person that dies that has to deal with the fallout of their death. It's everyone else that was close to that person. If it's any consolation, Charlie is somewhere else now, experiencing a new reality. His journey was not ended on the day he got assassinated.

 

[seve]

Ce que je réalise, c’est que le mal est haineux pour pouvoir « nous avoir » par la haine.

That's exactly the conclusion I came to yesterday as I was still caught up in feelings of hatred toward the psychopathic system that governs us. How many times have I wondered why the little French king wasn't taken down by a fanatic, or Bibi, or Ursula? It's a murderous thought in the end, and I don't want to get into that dangerous, negative, and therefore STS reasoning

 

[seek10]

There is another one coming up on X. some body on the right side behind Charlie with 'shooting' (very small flashing light reflected from his security guy cell phone type device). If one go through long videos, there are few places these flashes of lights from dark, most of them are sun light escaping from darkness crowded people created.

These videos exist on the first day itself, but videos were blurry at that time. Now, they are becoming little clearer.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1967477012647342455

On the other side, more videos popping up trying to create doubt about Charlee's family. Like Charlee faked the death, his wife is acting out in her speech, her finger rings associated with masonic symbols ('G') and so on. I see some desperation going on from this faction to minimize the shooting, but they tend to be unconvincing and shallow.

 

[Seamus]

The ADL is NOT happy about people noticing the likely Israeli connection:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966571761933135989

I've been surprised by how many and how quickly, at least on X/Twitter

What I'd like to see happen is the real circus masters, out of increasing desperation and desire to control, increase their attempts at sowing chaos and suppression, and in that way further expose themselves for what and who they are. This would be a preferable way for people to wake up rather than them fully taking the bait and engaging in internecine conflict. But maybe that's a pipe dream. Not sure what % I'd give it. Somewhere between 0 and 100 I suspect (although there's always the negative numbers)

Maybe a 51% chance of the former? Feels like something has tipped with how many people are noticing but maybe my dataset is biased by spending time on twitter.

Maybe in order to gain a better perspective on what might be going it would be helpful if people here share some of the experiences they personally had with lefty people since the Kirk assassination?

I have some patients at my clinic who will probably bring it up when I see them in the next couple of days, I'll report back.

Indeed, and this is (hopefully) pretty much how we see the world here. Having faith that God/the Universe will sort things out in its own way, whatever that means, however long it takes. The more truth you gather, the more you come to that conclusion - that forcing things will never work. The only caveat I would add is that "sitting back and watching the show" might be our "lesson plan", but this isn't necessarily true for everybody. Somebody must pull off the show . And some things that those more inclined towards action will do might be part of God's plan to sort things out. Hence I see nothing wrong with cheering on certain things that represent a "cosmic rebalancing", while staying on guard, as you say, not to blindly align with an ideology at the expense of seeing Truth, the bigger picture, etc.

For sure, there'd be no show if people didn't play their part, and unfortunately that probably means lots of chaos (probability assessment at 98.5%). But everything I'm saying here is aimed at the show watchers, hoping to avoid them from jumping over the fence and joining the fray, even if only emotionally and psychologically.

I don't know about any of you but I've certainly been feeling threads pulling me to join the fray. I guess that's the whole "there's a program for everyone" piece the C's warned us about a long time ago. I'm grateful I've learned to think about who's pulling those threads!

 

[Hesper]

Which is why Joe's words above are still true: seeing the "brainwashed masses" not as the perpetrators, but the victims of powerful evil forces. It's a spiritual battle, and we need to be on guard not to misdirect our justified anger.

Righteous anger towards evil is a powerful tool. It's dangerous out there and we all need to have our instincts sharpened and intact. Knowing how to use that anger in a constructive way - to establish boundaries or to protect yourself and loved ones - without going overboard is critical and requires massive amounts of knowledge and being. Having a network to air it all out with is indispensable.

However, I would just like to point out that viewing adult humans as helpless victims is a major part of the problem. WAY too many people are out there who have been turned into monsters because of being pitied and never really knowing what it means to be held responsible for their actions. Something I've found is that, whether you pity yourself or another, you are feeding the same devil.

As long as consequences are meaningful and appropriate, I am fine with the public shaming of those who have been brainwashed - otherwise how will they or others ever even have the chance to learn the error of their ways? Ideally consequences would happen top-down, in a legal framework, focused primarily on the fingers pulling the strings. Something like a truth and reconciliation process that sends the message loud and clear that evil was done, there has been justice, and we are moving on with lessons learned and with sorrow for the evil that has been caused.

But, since it seems that the US is too focused on placating Israel, people are taking it into their own hands. And so far I'm honestly pretty impressed with how well organized and effective it's been. This is the first episode of mass public shaming on social media, that I'm aware of, that seems like a legitimate use of it. Meanwhile leaders of the movement, like Tulsi Gabbard, have doubled down on Charlie Kirk's inspirational model of being a Christian peacemaker.

And that's not to say that these "radical leftists" have not caused a lot of suffering and dysfunction in society, they clearly have, but when we realise that they are instrumentalised by the ptb, we should, I think, pause before responding in the standard way and consider that such a response may be precisely what the ptb intend.

If by "standard way" you mean being pulled mechanically into an anger-based reaction then I agree. But I think that it's best to say this clearly and explicitly from the outset, rather than to state that you don't believe that what everyone can clearly see is happening is actually happening. As you put it, 'I don't think there is a "left" as is being described by so many on SM.' That has already been well established as one of the BEST ways to further outrage and alienate people who have been told essentially the same thing from every form of authority over the past decade.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

Psychopaths are really good at exploiting empathy that lacks knowledge, experience, and wisdom. It's so easy to direct people's love or hate at a target. Plenty of the "right" would also celebrate Hillary's death, for example. The left aren't the only ones to be happy when someone they really hate dies. And as someone mentioned earlier, the right went after Osama and Iraq just as the left will go after "CIS white males" etc. It's really just the human condition.

As we grow up we swing from blindly adoring our parents to hating them, to being indifferent, to loving again, etc. Same applies to how we feel about our friends, politicians, celebrities, ideologies, and events in our lives and the world stage. As Caesar says, humans are fickle. We are quick to judge, quick to develop strong feelings of love, hate, excitement or fear, and almost never "take our time" to actually try to figure something out carefully and patiently. It's hard to do that when contending with your "feelings" about it.

And the worst thing, we can learn this lesson in one area of life and fail to apply it in another. It really has to be learned as a universal lesson and practiced as often as possible.

And I think that's partly why Caesar also said even early education won't really stick either. It may work for a while, but it all goes to shit eventually without humanity collectively getting past being so easily compelled to love, hate, or take impulsive action for or against something.

I always come back to this alleged Chinese parable:

An old Chinese farmer saved up small amounts of money over a year to buy a new horse. Just a day after the farmer bought the horse, it ran away. His neighbour expressed grief, but the farmer himself was calm. “I hope you can get over this bad news” said the neighbor. “Good news or bad news, can’t say” replied the farmer.

The next day, the horse returned to the farmer’s house by itself, and brought another stray horse with it. “Cheer up, we’re going to multiply our farm income. That’s great news” said the farmer’s son. “Good news or bad news, can’t say” replied the farmer and carried on with his work.

A week later, the farmer took the first horse to his farm and his son took the second horse to follow his father to work. On the way, the second horse pushed the boy down and ran away. The boy’s leg was fractured badly. That evening back home, the farmer’s wife groaned “We will have to spend all our extra savings on our son’s broken leg. What a terrible news”. Once again, the farmer replied: “Good news or bad news, can’t say.”

A month later, the farmer’s King announced a war on the neighboring nation. Citing a lack of foot soldiers, the King ordered all able-bodied men in the nation to get drafted into the military without excuses. The farmer’s son was spared because of his broken leg. Later, the inexperienced soldiers got slaughtered in the war. “You are lucky that your son did not get drafted. Mine returned with severe injuries. Many have been handicapped or killed” complained the farmer’s best friend. Unabashed, the farmer responded: “Good news or bad news, can’t say”.

I think that's partly why the C's say "patience pays" and "wait and see" and "enjoy the show". I think there's a good chance the evidence will eventually point in one direction over others in this situation too. It's still early days!

Charlie died - bad!
His death and the left's mockery leads to awakening - good!
PTB crushes the awakening with economic collapse and police state - bad!
Universe reacts with Earth Changes and cancels their control - good!
Nephalim invade to take back control - bad!
We go to 4D and they're not a threat anymore - good!
The lizzies try to control us there too - bad!
umm.. they fail cuz they suck - good!

Sorry I ran out of ideas at the end there, but that's why I'm generally "poker face" about a lot of things in my personal life or the world stage. "Good news or bad news, can't say!"

 

[Seato]

I agree that the typical left right classification is irrelevant and perhaps now is more a source of confusion than anything else.
Tim Pool comes to mind as a liberal individual who holds positions of the ‘right’ and similar moral values. I often see annoyance expressed in his comment section annoyingly accusing him of fence sitting on many issues. I think the split in people may be built around basic decency and morality which has been more visibly eroded in the public consciousness by ‘leftist’ authorities (even if the powerful on neither side care for them).
However, many opposed to the overwhelming negative reality are still heavily influenced and trusting of the system just the side with a friendlier face. Like how the ‘right’ is generally far more supportive of Israel and its atrocities for example.

The control system wants to limit our choices as much as possible. The ‘left’ and ‘right’ political divide looks as if it may have been weighted to make the ‘left’ side so openly psychopathic or make it seem that way, to essentially force anyone with a conscience to choose the ‘right’.
By leading so many people to the ‘right’ they may be hoping to concentrate the masses and thinking of the population to follow a single group and thus control as many people as possible unified under one banner. One World Order kind of comes to mind.
Also keep in mind many of the highly emotional programmed and manipulated individuals that we are seeing reacting to Kirk’s demise are themselves being used for feeding by 4D STS. Both directly and via the hatred and anger of others who look at them in disgust. They may now be moving to the point to try and harvest the crop of mentally fragile people they have nurtured.

Establishing total control of everyone who is coming together seems likely to be wishful thinking. Too many people in the ‘right’ are questioning everything and I cannot see it escaping resistance from figures like Tucker Carlson and many others. Especially given people increasingly turning to spirituality in the face of the hand of evil revealing itself as it has in Charlie Kirks assassination and certain people’s reactions to it.

 

[Seamus]

Psychopaths are really good at exploiting empathy that lacks knowledge, experience, and wisdom. It's so easy to direct people's love or hate at a target. Plenty of the "right" would also celebrate Hillary's death, for example. The left aren't the only ones to be happy when someone they really hate dies. And as someone mentioned earlier, the right went after Osama and Iraq just as the left will go after "CIS white males" etc. It's really just the human condition.

As we grow up we swing from blindly adoring our parents to hating them, to being indifferent, to loving again, etc. Same applies to how we feel about our friends, politicians, celebrities, ideologies, and events in our lives and the world stage. As Caesar says, humans are fickle. We are quick to judge, quick to develop strong feelings of love, hate, excitement or fear, and almost never "take our time" to actually try to figure something out carefully and patiently. It's hard to do that when contending with your "feelings" about it.

And the worst thing, we can learn this lesson in one area of life and fail to apply it in another. It really has to be learned as a universal lesson and practiced as often as possible.

And I think that's partly why Caesar also said even early education won't really stick either. It may work for a while, but it all goes to shit eventually without humanity collectively getting past being so easily compelled to love, hate, or take impulsive action for or against something.

I always come back to this alleged Chinese parable:



I think that's partly why the C's say "patience pays" and "wait and see" and "enjoy the show". I think there's a good chance the evidence will eventually point in one direction over others in this situation too. It's still early days!

Charlie died - bad!
His death and the left's mockery leads to awakening - good!
PTB crushes the awakening with economic collapse and police state - bad!
Universe reacts with Earth Changes and cancels their control - good!
Nephalim invade to take back control - bad!
We go to 4D and they're not a threat anymore - good!
The lizzies try to control us there too - bad!
umm.. they fail cuz they suck - good!

Sorry I ran out of ideas at the end there, but that's why I'm generally "poker face" about a lot of things in my personal life or the world stage. "Good news or bad news, can't say!"

That's one of my favorite parables!

I agree with most of what you said, it is easy to direct people's love and hate when they lack self awareness and knowledge and most everyone suffers from the problem of learning a lesson in one area of life and applying it to other areas. On a macro level I think you're right, we'll have to wait and see if this event makes things "worse" or "better" from our perspective.

That said, is there a difference between celebrating the death of a truly evil tyrant and celebrating the death of a good man you were brainwashed into thinking was an evil tyrant?

From the little I know about Charlie Kirk, he didn't deserve what happened to him and his poor family certainly didn't deserve to see him die like that. I think we can feel sad for Charlie's family and mourn his passing as he seemed to be a sincere person of conscience who was trying to make the world a better place.

From what I know about Hillary and her gang, I think we will all be better off when she departs for 5D and all the people singing "ding dong the wicked witch is dead" will be justified and right to do so.

 

[luc]

But everything I'm saying here is aimed at the show watchers, hoping to avoid them from jumping over the fence and joining the fray, even if only emotionally and psychologically.

There’s very little we can do as individuals materially for the rest of the world. And even if it doesn't save the collective body, it will certainly save ourselves, if we focus on taking care of our souls and avoid the traps that STS evil overlords have set in every corner.

After 20 years I finally understand what it means: sit back and watch the show.

I think we should keep in mind also that "watching the show" doesn't mean just entertainment, or sitting in our bubble while looking down at the world. It is about learning, and the "enjoy" part comes from that. (Like we're doing here at this moment.) Everything that's happening in the world, and in political/philosophical/scientific discourse as events unfold, is an opportunity for us to fine-tune our understanding (again, like we're doing here at the moment).

The Wave is an invitation to grow. Which also means, for all the psychological detachment necessary, we also can't stand still; we need to evolve. Which also means modifying our outlook as events unfold to the degree it's necessary to align ourselves with truth and the STO path. Details matter, and we can't see the details from the "bird eye's view". Both perspectives are necessary.

The Cs said we must not "shut out the world", as in some Buddhist "nothing really matters, it's all the same, what do I care" stance. This is what I was getting at regarding the current left/right paradigm: we can't just say "well, it's all the same" or "both sides are controlled lol"; we still need to discern what specific developments or takes in the current context represent something positive, truthful and good and what represents evil and untruth; what would be conducive to a more positive society based on all we know and what wouldn't. We've been given "front-row seats", so it would be a waste not to use the unique perspective this provides by retreating to "nothing really matters" nihilism. And this includes emotions, which can be both hindering and furthering progress. "Shutting them out" would be to cheat yourself out of the learning experience we are provided, and in any event can't be done. As the Cs said, we need to discern between limiting emotions based on assumptions and those that lead to limitless possibilities. In fact, I think we might be able to influence the world more than we know if we can pull this off, i.e. gathering knowledge/experience "in the trenches" and combining that knowledge and true emotions with projecting truthful goodwill, based on faith in the process, to uplift those that are ready and deserve it.

 

[genero81]

Two reminders of what the C's have told us;

We would be able to think clearly when the time was "now." Seems to me that we have arrived at that moment.

Not to allow ourselves to be externally driven. -One is externally driven when emotions get 'hooked.'

I was watching George Galloway last night and he very clearly laid out why Israel should be considered prime suspect.

Libtards will be libtards. They are at least partly divorced from reality and naturally hysterical. They are not rational beings, at least not currently. Perhaps sometime in the future. Not holding my breath, however.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

That's one of my favorite parables!

I agree with most of what you said, it is easy to direct people's love and hate when they lack self awareness and knowledge and most everyone suffers from the problem of learning a lesson in one area of life and applying it to other areas. On a macro level I think you're right, we'll have to wait and see if this event makes things "worse" or "better" from our perspective.

That said, is there a difference between celebrating the death of a truly evil tyrant and celebrating the death of a good man you were brainwashed into thinking was an evil tyrant?

From the little I know about Charlie Kirk, he didn't deserve what happened to him and his poor family certainly didn't deserve to see him die like that. I think we can feel sad for Charlie's family and mourn his passing as he seemed to be a sincere person of conscience who was trying to make the world a better place.

From what I know about Hillary and her gang, I think we will all be better off when she departs for 5D and all the people singing "ding dong the wicked witch is dead" will be justified and right to do so.

Oh I agree completely! Sorry I didn't mean to say there's an equivalence, in case it might've come off that way. I also didn't mean to imply that we should remain emotionless when tragedies happen. I think the parable is great to glean a lesson from to help mitigate our own reaction and keep a larger picture in mind. But we can’t be emotionless and neutral at all times either.

Also, when you say "truly evil tyrant" - it's because you spent years networking, thinking with a hammer, and reading and thus you can be reasonable confident that's actually true. The average person isn't so careful, and that's how you get "Trump is literally Hitler" unfortunately.

And as the C's said, the right have similar tendencies, so them being seemingly more aligned with reality than the left may be temporary. The right can be exploited in the future to do horrible things to the wrong people. Having said that, it's not so black and white - maybe the right DO have more wisdom overall because of their religious and family-oriented foundation, and are less likely to be easily swayed like the left, who ultimately worship nihilism. They can still overreact and do terrible things when hurt or desperate, but it doesn't mean they're the same or fully equivalent, and that does give me hope. I know I'm generalizing, and maybe wishfully thinking.