Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

Ryan said:
Which Lobaczewski himself pointed out was part of the problem. Buying into the use of inadequate naturalistic terms in the wrong context opens people to the exact ponerogenic influences he was warning about.
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He also describes how Eastern Europeans, specifically Poles, developed their own natural immunity using natural language. People work with what they have, even when it's not perfect. So I don't think it's that black and white. Now, if everyone learned the language of ponerology, that understand could come muck quicker and with less trial and error.
SummerLite said:
Why would a bullet, which is moving at such force, richocet off another body part like bone? Wouldn't the bone be shattered as well? Seems more likely the bullet would go straight threw the body not upward.
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Yep.
JEEP said:
So, is this guy the killer? The kill shot went straight to the neck without hitting vest or shirt or anything else?
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Except that something obviously did interfere with the shirt. So far, the only explanation for that that makes any sense is a bullet hitting near the edge of an armor plate (see the video from SummerLite). The problem with any shooter in and around other people is that it would be audible to anyone in the vicinity, even with a silencer/suppressor. Here's what a palm pistol would sound like:

 
Approaching Infinity said:
The problem with any shooter in and around other people is that it would be audible to anyone in the vicinity, even with a silencer/suppressor. Here's what a palm pistol would sound like:
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Also:
Alphawarrior, from the video I posted, says this man is part of Charlie's team like the men standing behind him. If a palm pistal was fired we'd see a flash like in this video.
 
SummerLite said:
There is good and factual information here about events unfolding even if the speculation is incorrect about the over all plan to take Israel down which may be wishful thinking. But who knows. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst I suppose.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968140937990950915
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This is the BEST analysis video i had watched since the shooting. 3.5 hrs long, but worth it. They considered all the possibilities (available theories) and visible evidence . Their arguments is VERY convincing. Their conclusion is it is Tyler Robinson shot from the said spot, though there may be 2nd shooter from the similar spot. Usual MKULTRA/disassociate self candidate (aka green-baumed). We have already seen this sophistication in Butler, Iranian president plane crash in their mountains etc.

Josh Reid's geopolitical analysis (2nd part of video) is very interesting.
  • Sequence of tweets, hidden messages normally that go over our head, Rabbi sending condolence message to their followers on Sept 2nd( 8 days before assassination). i.e. Charlie ( and his security team) knows that his life is coming to an end.
  • They think that Bibi using names Qatar and China means there is another false flag coming that will be blamed on these 2 countries.
  • They think that Trump and Kash Patel going along with Israel, leaving crumbles of hidden messages which meant to expose Israel. At one point, Trump has to set Bibi in his place for the sake of US and gulf countries promised Trillions of investments in US. They suspect something big coming in October.
    • Probably that is also showing up in Bibi's 'desperations' too.
  • Blunders UTAH govt. doing is to dilute the case. Most probably, this kid will be 'suicided'. They suspect Kash Patel removing FBI's Utah head on the morning of Aug 10th (before shooting) meant to facilitate this.
  • Some body asked - is it safe for both Trump and JD Vance to attend the Charlie's funeral? According to them, Ideally it is not safe, but they are ready to take the risk for Charlie.
  • Josh goes into history of Frankism, illuminati connections, hijacking 'part of' Blavatsky stuff by Aleister Crowley gang to create latest version of Satanism, these guys follow. They conclude that current Israel has nothing to do orthodox Judaism. These are secular satanists belong to Ashkanazi Jews.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
I missed this earlier. Gary at Paramount Tactical heard back from his contact who he says is close to Charlie's people, who told him that the forensic report states (allegedly) Charlie was NOT wearing a bulletproof vest.
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That what I was thinking when I saw Kirk sitting there in the shirt. Doesn’t seem like there is anything under the shirt including small plates. That is also based on rather free upper body movements. I haven’t looked at it deeply at all though and still refuse to look at the execution and will continue to do so.
 
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Approaching Infinity said:
Not saying it's a slam dunk, but watch the Paramount Tactical videos again:
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Metal plate body armor isn't a slam-dunk, no.

See the video here for a case to be made that the shirt moving upwards was caused by the sudden movement of the cable of his ear-piece and mic.

Also posted earlier, other 'tactical guys' are saying Kirk wasn't wearing armor, and that even if he was, bullets don't ricochet off them like that.

I missed this earlier. Gary at Paramount Tactical heard back from his contact who he says is close to Charlie's people, who told him that the forensic report states (allegedly) Charlie was NOT wearing a bulletproof vest.
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Good, so let's put 'body armor' to one side for now.
 
A couple of thoughts and rants:

- In line with what the C‘s said: as much as we might like to see Israel/Zionists to get exposed and/or see serious consequences and/or the end of the demonic treatment of Gaza, it will probably take quite a bit more exposure and time before a time for something like that might be rife.

- It is frustrating and disheartening to see just how afraid almost everyone seems to be to clearly address big elephants in the room like Mossad without mincing words. And especially influential people. And that seems something quite universal globally and is not restricted to the west. Why is it that in terms of people that have currently bigger reach/influence globally, that almost nobody has “the guts and integrity“ to just address elephants in the room without mincing words? Yes, some if not many are probably rightfully strategic about it for obvious reasons, but it is still kinda disheartening to see that besides a young mother of 4 children in her basement almost nobody is speaking up, let alone dig deep into those issues as she does. Yes, we know why that is (long and strong programming worldwide for example) involving issues like blackmail and fear of safety/life of near ones and yourself. But still it might be a sign of the times.

- As much as we would like to see Candace and others to truly expose “Mossad“ and others with hard evidence, unfortunately, I think it will be very hard if not impossible to do so, given the nature of the beast. But at least someone is trying!

- My guess is that it will take the generations of roughly under 30 years of age to get into adult positions in society before the tide might be enough to shift away from Israel. Since those of that age and less seem MUCH less inclined to go along with “Israel“.

- What if the “Nazi dry run“ and thus the hypothesized “real thing“ in the future might no be as complicated as we would think? Maybe they are just trying to do pretty much the same thing all over again but this time more globally? And maybe “the jews“ will again be the “main targets“ and with it much wider groups? I mean, they have laid out pretty strong programming in that regard for decades. Why not go with the same old playbook that has worked before and has been programmed so well?

- In line with the last point above: Maybe in the end they are trying to arrange things that makes them able to say “told you so, we were right all along: Trump is Hitler and/or anyone following in his footsteps“. And then, if not Trump, we will get another person (probably somehow at least loosely “connected“ to that movement/trend) that will be presented as the new Hitler (who might or might nit do similar things as Hitler did).
 
seek10 said:
  • Sequence of tweets, hidden messages normally that go over our head, Rabbi sending condolence message to their followers on Sept 2nd( 8 days before assassination). i.e. Charlie ( and his security team) knows that his life is coming to an end.
  • They think that Bibi using names Qatar and China means there is another false flag coming that will be blamed on these 2 countries.
  • They think that Trump and Kash Patel going along with Israel, leaving crumbles of hidden messages which meant to expose Israel. At one point, Trump has to set Bibi in his place for the sake of US and gulf countries promised Trillions of investments in US. They suspect something big coming in October.
    • Probably that is also showing up in Bibi's 'desperations' too.
  • Blunders UTAH govt. doing is to dilute the case. Most probably, this kid will be 'suicided'. They suspect Kash Patel removing FBI's Utah head on the morning of Aug 10th (before shooting) meant to facilitate this.
  • Some body asked - is it safe for both Trump and JD Vance to attend the Charlie's funeral? According to them, Ideally it is not safe, but they are ready to take the risk for Charlie.
  • Josh goes into history of Frankism, illuminati connections, hijacking 'part of' Blavatsky stuff by Aleister Crowley gang to create latest version of Satanism, these guys follow. They conclude that current Israel has nothing to do orthodox Judaism. These are secular satanists belong to Ashkanazi Jews.
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First point: probably an incorrectly entered date.

Second point: nothing new there. Qatar and China are consistently held up by Israel/the Deep State as 'purveyors of disinformation/foreign influence'.

Third point: we can hope! Wishful thinking though.

Fourth point: the Utah FBI 'personnel change' before the event is interesting, but that's a wild guess as to why.
 
This is not much more than hearsay, although Candace has praised this person before so it seems she's at least not a random grifter. Basically, a "source" told her that NSA picked up 12 Israeli phones at the shooting site.

Of course, Israeli agents wouldn't use Israeli-registered cellphones, so if even true, there could be other explanations. Then again, this would be a good way to "send a message" to the White House and those in the know: yes of course it was us, now get your behind over here and kiss the wall!


SCOOP: Got a tip last night that I was able to verify with someone inside the admin that the NSA detected 12 Israeli registered cellphones at the site of the shooting last Wednesday.

The NSA picked the data up and handed it over to federal law enforcement officials who passed it along to the WH. My source said those in the administration with this info are “really freaked out.”

Okay. So what does this mean?

I don’t know. I’ve been getting multiple tips a day for a week and I’ve decided to start putting this info out as soon as I can verify any part of it. Everyone knows there’s something very wrong going on here and the public has a right to know what is happening.

Are there possible alt explanations? Yes.

1. Utah Valley University has a Center for National Security Studies program that is the largest NS program in the region. It’s possible there are Israeli nationals studying there.

2. They are Israeli nationals associated with one of the 3 synagogues located ~30 miles north in Salt Lake City- which includes the Chabad Lubavitch of Utah.

And yes I checked for art schools, there aren’t any. (That’s a joke. Calm down.)

Lastly, why give this scoop to me? Trust me, I was thinking the same thing.

It’s because mainstream journalists- and most independent ones too- are terrified of this story and no one wants to touch it. And I get that. But those folks need to dig deep and find their courage. Everyone does.

If journalists in Gaza can continue to report while under constant threat of death by drone, then legacy media in America can weather the wrath of the Lobby.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1968299863356981521
 
Niall said:
I'm open to the shot having been a 'side-shot', but beware analyses that are based on footage that has been rendered multiple times, blurring key details as to 'what is really there, and what the camera originally captured on film'.
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Someone has been to the location/spot where this 'muzzle-flash to the right of Kirk' occurred. There's nowhere for a sniper to set up, shoot, then leave undetected:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968576073240649751

Also, I think this is the relevant window area from inside the building. Unless a sniper had the whole foyer/lobby to himself, it's way too open and public:

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A couple of things to note.
The first is about the emotional impact of this. It seems that a lot of people (even if they where not aware of him/his reputation) where deeply impacted emotionally. So I'm curious what that was?
HAARP? i.e. emotions amplified deliberately, before any 'data' can come in.
A recognition that a 'great soul' had been snuffed out?
Something else?
I know it could be easily explained by simply seeing how public and horrific it was, especially if people have some recognition of what it was he was trying to do. It may even be simpler than that, the public spectacle of death.
I'm interested in the part before peoples internal narratives kick in. What was that?

On the original video analysis that suggested he was wearing body armour (now confirmed he wasn't) - it's possible his chest moved up like that (and looked like an armoured plate) simply due to the kinetic force of the bullet. If the neck was the impact site, traveling from front to back, all things connected to the neck (head, and body/rib cage) would move towards the point of impact. Down for the head, up for the ribcage, as the impact of the bullet moves the neck backwards.

Lastly, Brett and Heather gave a podcast honouring Charlie, talking about their feelings, confirming that he did in fact push to have the mRNA 'vaccines' stopped, and generally discussing their take and the psychosocial elements of it all. As always their take is balanced, and doesn't rule out 'outside forces' and the guy being a patsy.
 
Ricardo said:
and of course wouldn't fit into the observed backpack
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About this part that we've all heard repeatedly. According to Candace's video, what she has as the timeline reported by those officially investigating Charlie Kirk's murder, say that he was seen carrying what looked like a rifle. I kept thinking, "but wait...they said it was a backpack..."

So has anybody else heard them now saying he was carrying something that looked like a rifle? To me, they may have changed the story because people were saying how dismantling and then reassembling the rifle makes no sense.
 
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