Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[Approaching Infinity]

See the video here for a case to be made that the shirt moving upwards was caused by the sudden movement of the cable of his ear-piece and mic.

There's still debate about whether or not he was wearing an earpiece or whether or not it was wireless. His friend, Frank Turek, who accompanied him to the hospital, said he retrieved Charlie's necklace for Erika, so some think the "wire" we see is his necklace.

Also posted earlier, other 'tactical guys' are saying Kirk wasn't wearing armor, and that even if he was, bullets don't ricochet off them like that.

See hiker's post just above (quoted below). SummerLite's video has footage of guys shooting rifles at plates. When they hit the edge, the plate fragments and deflects those fragments up and in other directions.

As to why the disassembling of the rifle makes no sense , and of course wouldn't fit into the observed backpack of the designated patsy Tyler R.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968361110085714369

About this part that we've all heard repeatedly. According to Candace's video, what she has as the timeline reported by those officially investigating Charlie Kirk's murder, say that he was seen carrying what looked like a rifle. I kept thinking, "but wait...they said it was a backpack..."

So has anybody else heard them now saying he was carrying something that looked like a rifle? To me, they may have changed the story because people were saying how dismantling and then reassembling the rifle makes no sense.

As far as I can tell, this is the official story so far: he carried the disassembled rifle concealed under his clothing from his car to the roof. He spent 5 minutes or so concealed on the roof near the rear of the building, probably putting the rifle together, then took the rifle to the front, where he took the shot. He then immediately wrapped the rifle in the towel without disassembling, jumped down the roof with it, crossed the street, and put the rifle in the small wooded area. This guy's videos aren't great, but he tries to re-enact the basic idea and shows some of the things that would have been involved in this scenario:

Yeah, it’s quite perplexing if there was no bulletproof vest: a direct hit from a rifle bullet to the front of Charlie’s throat would have caused a larger and more graphic exit wound in the back of the neck.

Yeah.

On the other hand, if there was a vest involved, and the bullet came from the front and hit it at the upper edge as shown in the video, fragments from the bullet and/or the vest could have been deflected to his neck. They further explain that when the bullet hits the center area of the vest, it holds well, but when the impact is in the exterior of the plate, it pops and explodes (at 1:19:15).

Makes one wonder, if the bullet had hit somewhat lower on the vest, would Charlie have had a higher chance of surviving?

I think so, yeah.

(Btw, the link to the video seems to lead to a different YouTube clip, I think here's the correct one.)

Thanks, fixed!

 

[SummerLite]

This is the BEST analysis video i had watched since the shooting. 3.5 hrs long, but worth it. They considered all the possibilities (available theories) and visible evidence . Their arguments is VERY convincing. Their conclusion is it is Tyler Robinson shot from the said spot, though there may be 2nd shooter from the similar spot. Usual MKULTRA/disassociate self candidate (aka green-baumed). We have already seen this sophistication in Butler, Iranian president plane crash in their mountains etc.

Josh Reid's geopolitical analysis (2nd part of video) is very interesting.

• Sequence of tweets, hidden messages normally that go over our head, Rabbi sending condolence message to their followers on Sept 2nd( 8 days before assassination). i.e. Charlie ( and his security team) knows that his life is coming to an end.
• They think that Bibi using names Qatar and China means there is another false flag coming that will be blamed on these 2 countries.
• They think that Trump and Kash Patel going along with Israel, leaving crumbles of hidden messages which meant to expose Israel. At one point, Trump has to set Bibi in his place for the sake of US and gulf countries promised Trillions of investments in US. They suspect something big coming in October.
  • Probably that is also showing up in Bibi's 'desperations' too.
• Blunders UTAH govt. doing is to dilute the case. Most probably, this kid will be 'suicided'. They suspect Kash Patel removing FBI's Utah head on the morning of Aug 10th (before shooting) meant to facilitate this.
• Some body asked - is it safe for both Trump and JD Vance to attend the Charlie's funeral? According to them, Ideally it is not safe, but they are ready to take the risk for Charlie.
• Josh goes into history of Frankism, illuminati connections, hijacking 'part of' Blavatsky stuff by Aleister Crowley gang to create latest version of Satanism, these guys follow. They conclude that current Israel has nothing to do orthodox Judaism. These are secular satanists belong to Ashkanazi Jews.

I'm glad you found this useful. Josh Reid is so intense, always remarkably full of information. The second part of the video where he lays out the time line just before and after Charlies death is the most important part, its chilling. He gets into the who and why....... Baron Trump was brought home from school, by the secret service, the morning of Sept. 10 so it was known something was up.

He says Trump won't go after Nat because the US Congress will impeach him, something I hadn't thought of, so keep an eye on those people. It's the usual suspect as we all know.

The aftermath is the call for more censorship of US people. Pam Bondi needs to be fired. Very serious times where in.

 

[Ricardo]

The aftermath is the call for more censorship of US people. Pam Bondi needs to be fired.

At this point Pam Blondi or whoever else gets to replace her wouldn't be able to do much , same as K. Patel or D. Bongino (...) , maybe at best they'd be able to say a few wrong words on youtube/ social media before some horrible accident , or similar. (fwiw /blah)

 

[aragorn]

I haven't followed too closely all the developments and details, but so far the alleged tex message exchange appears to me as most bogus of all. Candace explains it well in detail in her latest episodes, but in short, the exchange includes so many convenient 'fact droppings' that you just can't take it seriously. As Candace put it, the exchange has something for everyone. MAGA, trans, "grandpa's rifle' etc. Not to mention the language/words, LOL!

What it looks to me right now is something like: 'Mossad' wanted him gone, so they 'activated' one of their groomed and programmed subjects. Then, as the deed was done, they handed the FBI their ready-made script: "Here's what you're going to do and say, or else..." And, I'm sure there are many federal employees and others who are willing to lie and cover up things on behalf of 'God's chosen people' without any coercion. And off go all the John Cullens and George Webbs with their distractions, and everything gets muddled.

 

[SummerLite]

At this point Pam Blondi or whoever else gets to replace her wouldn't be able to do much , same as K. Patel or D. Bongino (...) , maybe at best they'd be able to say a few wrong words on youtube/ social media before some horrible accident , or similar. (fwiw /blah)

I'm not going to doom out, there's always hope and determination for things to turn around.

 

[Moine]

Wasn't Nick Fuentes supposed to be totally anti-Israel? One would think that he would at least consider the 'Israel did it' hypothesis, but for some reason here he sounds like Ben Shapiro. What's up with that?

Controlled opposition. He doesn't have to be bought and paid for either. As long as he, or Candace, or Tucker, or whomever else that influence the digital audience, are handled in such a way that they notice the skeletons in every other closet, except the one that matters, then they will be used towards such ends without them ever realizing it.

Scapegoats have already been arranged. You have a domestic/criminal patsy, who can also be ascribed to a larger social group for eventual ostracism. You also have potentially a foreign ethnic patsy, should it come to that. What you don't have is the underlying occult, globalist, and super oligarchic boy'z club, that are benefiting from the tragedy that they likely orchestrated in the first place.

The current administration's efforts towards political scheming is being consolidated, and all of the special interests get their cuts of the pie, while the economic detritus of whole-scale economic re-organisation, under the guise of AI industry, becomes an unfortunate piece of trivia, whilst everyone else is busy pointing fingers at each other.

Professor Hamamoto, in his most recent airing, goes through his take, among similar things, where he points out the underlying motifs and historical associations which are making this whole affair truly stink.

I'd give him a watch. He's from the "old school" of conspiracy/occult/history research, which from my own experiences tend to point out the guilty associations of the usual schemers....

The National Socialists in Weimar Germany blamed the Jews for many of their nation's cultural, economic, and political woes. What is largely forgotten, is that you had a whole clique of Ordo Templar Orientalis, Vril and Thule Societies, German Megacorp Industrialists, and Wall-Street financiers, along with international banking interests who financed and influenced that whole thing in the first place.

You've got similar nasties in the US, and they're doing the exact same things.

 

[Cosmos]

I think Candace line of enquiry continues to be very interesting and good. I agree with her that the trans boyfriend of the supposed shooter is a a potentially pretty interesting direction to look into, which seems not many people do in that way.

 

[SummerLite]

So, I just sat through the 3.5 hours of Defcon Zero. A lot of pertinent dot-connecting info presented. It was good that I waited it out to almost the very end as one of the rumble questions was about the palm pistol. They ruled it out as there would be a muzzle flash, adjacent people would have moved away, and the sound would not be like that of a rifle, which is agreed was clearly the distinct sound heard. Plus, in a breakdown of the assassination to determine what happened, I paid attention to the brown shirt man's hand - it did not recoil at all (he was part of Charlie's team as well) and no muzzle flash either.



If that's factual, then that nullifies Defcon Zero's explanation of Charlie's neck wound, a frontal entry wound either caused by the bullet hitting the vest and it or the vest fragmented and made the neck wound. Not a rickoshay. Probably went on to cause fatal brain injury, likely instant death based on Charlie's body reaction. However, they also showed his body response to the initial impact that indicated a shot from the front (ruling out side or back) as well as a view of his back against the chair and said that definitively showed he was wearing a vest. Plus, they mentioned ceramic at one point, so was metal even part of the vest? I don't remember the specifics of what vest he was thought to be wearing other than 1/2 inch in thickness.



Sonar21 posted an explanation for the movement of the shirt - not what has been proposed heretofore. Rather this:

This is followed by a vid showing the shockwave in a demonstration:

[NOTE: Apologies are made regarding using breakdown of graphic assassination images to detail the shockwave effect.]

So, if the above explains the movement of the shirt, and there was no vest, did the bullet strike the neck directly? Defcon Zero said that a direct hit by the presumed rifle bullet would have done a lot more graphic damage than what the neck wound showed. So????

Additionally:

It's a 1:09 bitchute vid in the article. Defcon Zero scrutinized the roof footage and thought it did look like a rifle was being carried, but after he hit the ground and walked off, not so much? I'm not sure now on that point. The clothes changing bit is puzzling, but he must have done recon to know to crawl to the prone position to avoid cameras. They agreed that he is the shooter, but very likely MKUltra/voice to skull tech utilized on him.


My impression from the Defcon Zero vid is that Kash is playing along intentionally (they showed that Dan Scavino lion vid) and due to following Trump's orders. He removed Utah FBI head to ensure Tyler doesn't get suicided. They think he likely will get killed though.

One last thing that's more than odd. Checked on Tarot with Janine/Beyond Mystic and they showed two pics of Charlie's hand that was bizarre. I looked for it in the vids of Defcon Zero, and it looked that way to me, too. First, you can see Charlie's wedding ring on his ring finger. But moments later, the ring is on his pinkie finger! How could that be? Very, very weird.

I'm glad you took the time to watch this! Alpha took a lot of time showing and explaining the body armor Charlie was wearing and what happened. It's case closed with that for me. All other explanations look weak in comparison. Alpha knows his stuff.

I've seen several videos of people talking about the ring and here are 2 possible explanations. Charlie always wore this ring and its hinged which means it opens up to remove it not slipping it over the finger. He's always fidgeting with it when he speaks. Did the impact caused by the bullet cause the ring to move to the other finger being it wasn't secured correctly. Was this on the hand holding the mike? The other explanation is the poor quality of the cell phone cameras which has been discussed here already. Missing frames may show how the ring moved or some other explanation. No real proof on that one

 

[Approaching Infinity]

This guy on X attempted an audio forensics analysis of the shot, arguing that the shot came from only 70-90 feet away:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968415728802976128

I tried to verify this and could not. I used the footage referred to as "camera 2" in this video. If someone can find me a good copy of "camera 3", that will help. I reused my formulas and graphs from the Butler shooting, making adjustments for the different conditions.

This test will only show whether or not the audio is consistent with a .30-06 fired from Robinson's location. There may be other solutions, but I'd need at least Camera 3 to test them.

Camera 2 is about 122 meters from Robinson's rooftop location, and pretty closely in line with the trajectory of bullet.

I can't replicate Smartski's claim "Crack–bang intervals across all recordings: 0.08–0.14s". That's the time difference between the bullet passing the microphone, and the rifle report reaching the microphone. There is a lot of echo, given the location, but it sounds and looks to me as if it is around 0.206 seconds.

According to the math, the time difference for a slow .30-06 at 122 meters would be around 0.195 seconds, and for a fast round it's 0.215 seconds. 0.206 seconds is right in the middle, exactly what you'd expect.

Smartski says he verified his own result using all the videos, but as I learned researching Butler, the farther away the microphone is from the trajectory of the bullet, the less accurate the formula. You have to use an entirely different, and more complex, formula to get any results. He doesn't show any sign of having done that.

Sources:
-.30-06 ballistics (using a high- and low-velocity to get a range): https://ammo.com/ballistics/30-06-ballistics
-speed of sound calculator: E6BX | Aviation Calculators
-temperature at around 81 degrees F, to calculate speed of sound: Past Weather in Orem, Utah, USA — Yesterday or Further Back
-elevation (4637ft) for the location: Elevation Finder
-bullet audio forensics formula: https://www.montana.edu/rmaher/publications/maher_aes_1022_22.pdf

 

[Benjamin]

Also posted earlier, other 'tactical guys' are saying Kirk wasn't wearing armor, and that even if he was, bullets don't ricochet off them like that.

Good, so let's put 'body armor' to one side for now.

Just something I noticed in the Frank Turek video. While they were racing to the hospital, Frank mentions @3:15 starting CPR on Charlie but recounts nothing about having to remove any body armour to start compressions.

Frank Turek recounts what happened directly after Charlie was shot.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968410142514278808

 

[JEEP]

There's still debate about whether or not he was wearing an earpiece or whether or not it was wireless.

Defcon Zero said he was wearing an earpiece that was violently forced out of his ear by the shot, causing his ear to bleed and (probably) ruptured his eardrum. This was based on the vid footage. The other vid analyst previously featured also spoke of the earpiece flying out based on video.

Just something I noticed in the Frank Turek video. While they were racing to the hospital, Frank mentions @3:15 starting CPR on Charlie but recounts nothing about having to remove any body armour to start compressions.

Yes, I thought the same thing - wouldn't the vest plate interfere with CPR. Maybe they ripped it out or whatever if he was indeed wearing one.

But really, all these questions could be answered with autopsy results. Crickets. Suspicious.

Was this on the hand holding the mike? The other explanation is the poor quality of the cell phone cameras which has been discussed here already. Missing frames may show how the ring moved or some other explanation. No real proof on that one

Yeah, keep hearing about the ring hinge. What I saw in the slow-mo vid breakdown was his hand holding the mic with ring visible on his ring finger. His hand with the mic drops and fingers aren't visible. When his hand comes up again still holding the mic, fingers again visible but ring is now on the pinkie. I'm not sure how much time elapsed, but it seemed like just a second or two at most. I was watching it in slow-mo, so it could have been a lot quicker. I dunno - could that ring really fully reposition itself in like a blink of an eye?

It's a very strange and unsettling feeling to be reviewing that death shot repeatedly from every angle, fast and slow. How horrible with our fond memory of Charlie and all that he stood and worked for, but if all this analysis results in justice for him, then it's the right thing to do.

 

[Beau]

While they were racing to the hospital, Frank mentions @3:15 starting CPR on Charlie but recounts nothing about having to remove any body armour to start compressions.

That could be an important data point or something Frank deliberately left out.

 

[Niall]

Drones and more drones , hard to say for sure , but from perspective and size movement does seem that some of the recorded things in
this video ain't natural buggers. fwiw.

( Time Stamps to Screenshot and Verify are 6:23 , 9:15 , 10:42 , 10:58 , 13:18 , 13:21 , 16:13 , 18:02 , 18:46 , 18:59 , 19:40 , 19:52 , 20:00 , 21:15 , 29:17 )

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968448023354056924

A few of those stand out, but the bug/drone example beginning at 09:43 is most interesting.

 

[JEEP]

Regarding the Defcon Zero vid, I didn't realize Susie Wiles had worked for Netanyahu! Holy crap! That and so many other points brought out paints a much different picture of how things are than I imagined. Interesting that Janine brought up the danger to Barron and they reported how a secret service squad team extracted him from class. I'm getting the idea from her and Cliff High (and RVs) that early/mid October is going to be eventful, in a really bad way. All things considered, that won't be surprising.

 

[JGeropoulas]

I thought I'd gotten this video from this thread, but now I don't see it here, so not sure where I came across it (certainly not on the Rense site). In any event, what do y'all think about it's legitimacy...and the implications if true.

Isolated Video Loop Of Brown Shirt Man Firing Palm Pistol At Charlie Kirk - Any Doubts Now?

This Lead Story "fact-checking" is typical side-stepping, conflation and poor logic, which only lends credence to the palm gun shooter video.

Fact Check: NO EVIDENCE Palm Gun Was Used In Fatal Shooting Of Charlie Kirk

Does a video from social media prove that the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk was carried out with a palm gun? No, that's not true: The video doesn't show what posts claim it does. According to the authorities, the...

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