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Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history
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Problem with this idea is that the 'trapdoor' was to the side of Kirk's tent, not under it:
That picture has got me thinking. Everyone is focused on the shooter or the crowd.
What’s going on behind the tent?
Is there a possible sniper position at ground level far behind the tent?
I wouldn’t rule out the PTB having ‘optics’ that can see easily through a tent wall like that.
So maybe I should add a 4th to my above list.
4) the wound we see is an exit wound, and he was shot from the back (far behind the tent)
Having said that, the amount of other people that could hit (in the crowd, after passing through) may rule it out.
Well then that suggests a bunch of data.
Point 3) on my list (a ricochet - front entry, front exit) is highly unlikely if that was indeed the bullet he was struck with.
It should also rule out point 1) (shot from the front, the wound is an entry wound) because the back of his neck should have exploded - IF that was the bullet he was shot with.
Now if we are dealing with lower calibre bullets, that puts 1) and 3) back in the table. It also makes 4) more likely (i.e. just as likely as anything else).
Like others I also can't get the story right. If there is no exit hole, then the hole to the right of the neck is the entry. That for me poses the question of what the movement in the chest area was about? If he was hit in the neck, then it is pointless to talk about body armor and whether he was wearing any or not. His chest cage would not have to absorbe any impact as it hit the neck, yet we see his chest move upward.
As a hunter and an owner of a 30-06 rifle, I have seen bullets stay in the body (rare) when a deer is killed but never in the neck area. A shot to the neck with a 30-06 would always have an exit wound, as it mostly is soft 'matter'. I just spoke to my brother who uses a .308 rifle and he has also never in his 45 years hunting with a rifle, experienced that there was no exit hole with a shot to the neck. Likewise, such a shot is instant death.
So, I am not buying the story about the type of rifle or the story around Robinson as the killer. Enough holes in the official story to make a good sieve. Just like 9-11, fotage from all the security cameras installed all over the campus and the city have gone missing, which points to a much bigger actor than a lone ideological driven gunman.
As a hunter and an owner of a 30-06 rifle, I have seen bullets stay in the body (rare) when a deer is killed but never in the neck area. A shot to the neck with a 30-06 would always have an exit wound, as it mostly is soft 'matter'. I just spoke to my brother who uses a .308 rifle and he has also never in his 45 years hunting with a rifle, experienced that there was no exit hole with a shot to the neck. Likewise, such a shot is instant death.
So, I am not buying the story about the type of rifle or the story around Robinson as the killer. Enough holes in the official story to make a good sieve. Just like 9-11, fotage from all the security cameras installed all over the campus and the city have gone missing, which points to a much bigger actor than a lone ideological driven gunman.
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Not sure if it has been mentioned... maybe he wasn't shot? Maybe, somehow, something had been implanted in his neck that was then detonated remotely?
. Going further, if this was not a 3D hit job, that thing could easily have been implanted via access to 4D space, in the same way that if you drew a square and locked a creature that could only move in 2D space into the square, from your 3D perspective you can get things in and out of the square via the 3rd dimension. Naturally, the 2D creature would try and explain what was happening from a 2D perspective. So are we trying to explain what happened to Charlie from a 3D perspective?Maybe that's too far off from the realm of what is possible.
Yup the more I turn over possibilities in my mind the more it doesn’t fit.
Someone (Niall?) mentioned the thought that perhaps this wasn’t meant to kill him.
What if it’s the opposite? What if the results where exactly what was planned?
By that I mean, a weapons system/bullet designed specifically to hit someone in the neck and cause a fountain of blood.
We know that Isreal likes to test these systems on live targets. I also imagine that if such a system exists they’ve tested in on dense Palestinian crowds. A bullet that kills one person with a neck shot and showers everyone else around them with a fountain of blood.
So reverse engineering from the result - if that’s what it is - what direction would it have had to have come from? And what type of bullet would that be? What gun would fire it?
Was it even a bullet?
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I don't recall the Cs ever being asked this question? Have 4D STS ever directly carried out an assassination of a high profile 3rd density person in a public space such that it is a spectacle i.e. rather than rely on the use of a 3rd density proxy e.g. patsy or other 3rd density person to do the job on their behalf?
Perhaps this is too left field but makes you wonder
Pulling on this string a bit more, assuming yes... then why Charlie? Was he that important for 4D STS to personally see to it he was taken out, in such a public way no less? Perhaps, his death was more intended to kick off a chain reaction that was somehow connected to Israel? One thing that is happening is people are speaking more and more about Israel - this taken together with Gaza? Perhaps, there are some game of thrones type stuff happening and Israel isn't necessarily a piece on the chessboard that is untouchable from a 4D STS perspective? Who knows how it connects to there plans for us. Maybe at some point there plan has Israel being pushed off the chessboard? Who knows really, it's certainly one possible scenario and it's not like they'd share that with their 3D pawns.
Or perhaps it was something more mundane, like a 4D STS implant that malfunctioned spectacularly.
Perhaps this is too left field but makes you wonder
Pulling on this string a bit more, assuming yes... then why Charlie? Was he that important for 4D STS to personally see to it he was taken out, in such a public way no less? Perhaps, his death was more intended to kick off a chain reaction that was somehow connected to Israel? One thing that is happening is people are speaking more and more about Israel - this taken together with Gaza? Perhaps, there are some game of thrones type stuff happening and Israel isn't necessarily a piece on the chessboard that is untouchable from a 4D STS perspective? Who knows how it connects to there plans for us. Maybe at some point there plan has Israel being pushed off the chessboard? Who knows really, it's certainly one possible scenario and it's not like they'd share that with their 3D pawns.
Or perhaps it was something more mundane, like a 4D STS implant that malfunctioned spectacularly.
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Right after the JFK assassination, crews moved in to repave and repair any concrete damage. For many years, if you 'walked that path', witnesses (or volunteers) would come out and point out those repairs.
He has good points about the overall atmosphere around the murder but more sense makes to me one of the comments below that tweet:
So Alex Jones spoke with Andrew Kolvet, and he (the surgeon?) specified that what happened was that the bullet went in at an angle, coming *down* into his body, then ricocheted from within the body upwards, where they then found the bullet. Maybe another instance of what @Niall was talking about - releasing tidbits to then retroactively get their story straight?
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Perhaps depends on the gun... be good to know if any of those were shot by a sniper's rifle or hunting rifle.
I'd imagine if small arms were used, then conceivably there may not be an exit wound if shot in the neck but if a high calibre weapon, then, holy moly. But stranger things have happened. !
Or as Luc has posted above, maybe can be explained by the angle of entry.
Some napkin math:
Shot taken from 200 yards distance: ~184m.
Shot taken from elevation of approximately 3 stories: ~21m.
Therefore incident angle of bullet entry: ~6.5º
Overestimate to massive degree of error: 10º
For a bullet to enter the chest from an entry point on the neck, the angle would need to be at least three or four times that and probably closer to five or six. Sounds like TPUSA have a bridge to sell everyone.
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