Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[A Jay]

What's your explanation for the t-shirt?

When the gunshot is heard it sounds like and people were reacting as if the sound didn't come from Charlie. Aka, something on his person didn't explode.

Why did the shirt do the thing? I'm thinking it's got to do with the bullet but that ultimately it's not that important a detail.

If you're going to make it seem like a lone wolf gunman and you have the ability to use a lone wolf gunman, then why not use a lone wolf gunman? Why use an exploding microphone? How would the microphone or battery pack or whatever create enough concussive capacity to send shrapnel into Kirk's neck/brain and not also create any sound?

The possibility seems like it creates more problems than it solves and raises more questions than it answers.

 

[thorbiorn]

Notes from a remote viewer
If remote viewing has not been brought up in this thread, here is one take from the YouTube channel of Elizabeth April, posted on September 15 among her Live videos. Her first words are, and that may be the overall context for her work:

Welcome back. It is clear that America is it's rotting and in so many ways it's dying. And this is what I have talked about for many years that actually has to happen in order for a rebirth to occur.

She perceives the murder as an expression of this process. This does not mean she simple stands back from it all, rather she accepts the situation, engages with it, with people and shares what she thinks is true.

The video description has;

Remote Viewing What Happened To Charlie Kirk
108,586 views Streamed live on Sep 15, 2025

0:00 Introduction and Context
0:50 Assassination of Charlie Kirk
1:02 Remote Viewing Explained
2:01 Handling and Public Reaction
2:59 Tragic Events and Global Context
3:32 Suspicious Nature of Events
5:00 Purpose of Remote Viewing
5:24 Who Was Charlie Kirk
6:31 Details of the Assassination
7:10 Remote Viewing Experience
9:29 Message from Charlie Kirk's Spirit
10:29 Who Was Behind the Shooting
13:09 Motives Behind the Assassination
14:32 Distraction and Timing
15:56 Closing Thoughts and Advice

Was Charlie Kirk’s death a random tragedy or a carefully staged operation? EA's remote viewing session exposed a deep state plot, a professional sniper, and a chilling agenda to divide America. This video uncovers the truth they don’t want you to know.
[...]

In the video there is an introduction to the topic of remote viewing and the known circumstances around the assassination. What has to do with the actual remote viewing is from 7:10 to around 15:05. Here are some notes from those minutes, but It should be emphasized she more than once says: this is remote viewing, it is what it is, take it or leave it, up to you.

When Elizabeth April sat down for her session, something unusual for her happened, the spirit of Charlie Kirk came along. This does not usually happen to her, though since her childhood she has seen ghosts and spirits, but she is not into cross over between remote viewing and mediumship. Anyway it happened. She says he was not stuck like some can be. The other side was different from what he expected, but she did not ask for specifics. He was grieved by the loss of his children - he would have liked to do much more in life - he wanted his death to bring people together, but was seeing it is doing the opposite.

Next to the event itself. Tyler Robinson was set up with gear and gun but he was not the one who pulled the trigger and killed Charlie Kirk. She does not know how aware this person is, but there is a chance he will take his own life. The one who did kill him was a pro. The purpose had less to do with what Charlie Kirk was saying, more about driving fear and division among people. She reads from her notes, people are easier to control when they are angry, and adds that this goes for either side. There was also an element of distraction, she is not sure from what, but says it is necessary to look at what else was happening that day, or the following days, politically and otherwise. It felt as if the timing was very particular, and asks: what are we missing, why are we all focusing on this, and what else are we not focused on?

Checking the comments to the video, there was:

@SunflowerHeart1
10 days ago
I got the same as you. The sniper was farther away, the kids was to be seen on purpose running across the roof and jumping down, all on video. While the real guy walked away unnoticed

@EphemeralChange
10 days ago
This exactly vibes with my own remote viewing, thank you for putting it out there with compassion.

More people speculated about what else was going on, like the author Eva Detko, a YouTuber working with breathing, vagus nerves, detox, and alternative medicine, who noted:

@DrEvaDetko
10 days ago
Epstein - congress blocked the release of Epstein files 3hrs after CK was assassinated. I knew that was why they took him out.

Some commentators mention the attention that had been leveled toward Israel, etc. I doubt she would bring that up, even if she saw it, or knew it from elsewhere. Instead she mentioned the Deep State, and for all practical purposes that is probably enough.

If it turns out it was close by or some battery pack that did the deed, then these remote viewers have been misled. Wait and see.

 

[Niall]

I posted an analysis earlier by a guy who did some sort of autistic analysis (by his own account) to trace the force...

Acoustic, I hope. There've been enough autistic analyses at this point!

 

[Niall]

When the gunshot is heard it sounds like and people were reacting as if the sound didn't come from Charlie. Aka, something on his person didn't explode.

Why did the shirt do the thing? I'm thinking it's got to do with the bullet but that ultimately it's not that important a detail.

If you're going to make it seem like a lone wolf gunman and you have the ability to use a lone wolf gunman, then why not use a lone wolf gunman? Why use an exploding microphone? How would the microphone or battery pack or whatever create enough concussive capacity to send shrapnel into Kirk's neck/brain and not also create any sound?

The possibility seems like it creates more problems than it solves and raises more questions than it answers.

Joe can flesh it out more, but his thinking is that you've got two guys somewhere up high with line-of-sight. One fires off a round that doesn't even try to strike Kirk, it's just fired overhead somewhere, and the other simultaneously detonates the booby-trapped mic/battery-pack on/under his shirt. Robinson is over there at another location, where he's meant to be seen, thus drawing attention to him. The gunshot provides, well, the gunshot sound, but the hi-tech device guarantees his death (and, perhaps, the second, odd, slightly-off-time-wise 'thud' sound that's heard).

 

[A Jay]

Crooks was a patsy who pulled the trigger. Why couldn't they have had Robinson do the same?

 

[mkrnhr]

The narrative around this assassination is that of a lone gunman but there are more than one way to kill someone, and if they wanted to ensure a certain outcome, they may have set up a patsy, a real shooter, and maybe a synchronized remote device like a modified battery in case the shooter misses. I remember reading long ago about ice bullets that melt in the body to erase traces, so maybe since then there are other technologies. The battery doesn't need to explode because it would be obvious and the energy of the blast would go in all directions. But if it has a small object (bullet) then there is no need for a lot of energy and a compressed air directed towards the bullet will only manifest as a strange movement of the clothes, almost inaudible. I don't think the possibility of several vectors of attacks can be dismissed because it wasn't used before.

 

[luc]

Acoustic, I hope. There've been enough autistic analyses at this point!

No, he really meant autistic, and he's not wrong

 

[Cosmos]

I think that is a possibility. For example I‘m pretty sure that you can achieve A LOT of velocity of any type of projectile not only with ordinary bullets but with high pressured air. If I remember correctly, the achieved velocity can even be much higher than a big/strong caliber if you want to.

Just regular airgun Zylinders can have anywhere between 200 and 300 bars of pressure in them. And I guess depending on how you release the pressure you can have quite many bars pushing the projectile doing a lot of damage without needing any kind of conventional gun/explosive/fire mechanism (aka. bullet).

I would guess that it would be pretty easy for agencies to have very small Zylinders holding a high or very high pressure catapulting a projectile even over a very short guiding “rod“ (barrel). I‘m also speculating that you wouldn’t even need much of a barrel or even projectile to cause a lot of damage close by, with air pressure.

I tried to calculate the minimum size of an air pressure Zylinder that is designed to shoot just one projectile via Grok. Here is what I asked Grok.

Here is Groks conclusion for two different bullets, the latter being the one Tyler is supposed to have used:

Final Answer

The smallest air pressure cylinder for a single-shot airgun firing a .177 caliber, 8-grain pellet at 1,500 fps is approximately 2.9 cm³ (0.178 in³), with dimensions of roughly 9 mm diameter × 45 mm length (0.36 × 1.78 inches) at 4,500 PSI. This assumes a highly efficient design and lightweight projectile. For heavier pellets or lower pressures, the cylinder would need to be larger.If you have specific constraints (e.g., different caliber, pressure, or materials), let me know for a refined estimate!

Final Answer

The smallest air pressure cylinder for a single-shot airgun firing a .30-06, 110-grain bullet at 1,500 fps is approximately 40.1 cm³ (2.45 in³), with dimensions of roughly 22 mm diameter × 108 mm length (0.85 × 4.27 inches) at 4,500 PSI. This is about 14 times larger than the 2.9 cm³ cylinder for a .177 pellet due to the higher energy required for the heavier bullet.If you want to explore a different bullet weight (e.g., 150–180 grains) or other constraints, let me know!

So from that I think it would be possible to build/create a pretty small shooting/exploding device that can cause a lot of damage close by: With air pressure alone.

 

[A Jay]

and if they wanted to ensure a certain outcome, they may have set up a patsy, a real shooter, and maybe a synchronized remote device like a modified battery in case the shooter misses.

They didn't rig the Butler podium to explode when they tried to kill Trump and he was a much bigger target, so I think it's only logical that we use Butler as a reference. The setup there was relatively clean, a patsy and a cleanup crew, so if they didn't need such a complicated undertaking to take out the President of the USA I don't think it's reasonable to suspect they'd need more than the same to take out a lower profile target.

I remember reading long ago about ice bullets that melt in the body to erase traces, so maybe since then there are other technologies. The battery doesn't need to explode because it would be obvious and the energy of the blast would go in all directions. But if it has a small object (bullet) then there is no need for a lot of energy and a compressed air directed towards the bullet will only manifest as a strange movement of the clothes, almost inaudible.

Enough compressed air to kill a man would be loud enough to hear. A more silent method would be electromagnetic, like a rail gun.

Problem there, and with the compressed air idea, is that the force pushing the projectile out would push the container just as hard so the thing would have to be secured to his chest to keep from flying around and ensure the intended target was hit. There is nothing that fits that description that we know of that was on his person at the time. Even the mic would have a similar kickback problem.

That leaves a bomb of some kind but that has a similar problem of needing to be appropriately placed at the time and so far nothing fits that description being in the right place to do that.

I don't think the possibility of several vectors of attacks can be dismissed because it wasn't used before.

It's not being dismissed because it's never been done.

It's being dismissed because it's overly complicated compared to what has already happened with a similar suspect and MO and very easily could have been done again.

 

[Aeneas]

Alternatively, there could be an entry wound hidden by the inflated teeshirt, and the visible wound is exit.

I think the visible wound is the exit or at least I can't see how it can be the entry wound if the shot was generated by the battery pack.

Joe can flesh it out more, but his thinking is that you've got two guys somewhere up high with line-of-sight. One fires off a round that doesn't even try to strike Kirk, it's just fired overhead somewhere, and the other simultaneously detonates the booby-trapped mic/battery-pack on/under his shirt. Robinson is over there at another location, where he's meant to be seen, thus drawing attention to him. The gunshot provides, well, the gunshot sound, but the hi-tech device guarantees his death (and, perhaps, the second, odd, slightly-off-time-wise 'thud' sound that's heard).

That works for me. With the battery pack as the source of the killing shot, the rifle shot to explain the ballistics but not aimed to hit anything, I wondered about how that would work with the timing. Your solution, that the battery pack was remotely detonated explains the accoustics timing as the activation happened from the same physical place. It also explains the 'thud' sound mentioned in an accoustics analysis, which came miliseconds after the first shot, with the 'thud' sound coming from the battery pack.

 

[Cosmos]

Problem there, and with the compressed air idea, is that the force pushing the projectile out would push the container just as hard so the thing would have to be secured to his chest to keep from flying around and ensure the intended target was hit. There is nothing that fits that description that we know of that was on his person at the time.

I did not think about that, but I’m pretty sure that you are right and that you would need exactly that with the air pressure idea: Something that fixes that thing very securely/strongly on the body. No evidence of that though. So yeah, I think the air pressure idea is likely out of the door as well.

Maybe it really was Tyler and/or someone else on that spot who shot Kirk.

 

[Brewer]

So we're looking at at a battery pack inside the shirt being turned into a type of air gun that fired a bullet? If so, then the wound we see is an entry wound, and the "bullet" stayed inside him, in keeping with a low velocity, which would work given the proximity.

If it is that mike unit on his shirt that caused it, a chemical, much higher energy density than a cylinder of gas. A smokeless pistol powder propelling a blunt hollow-point projectile penetrating around the clavicle on his left side and exiting via his neck on the right side? A blunt projectile, either by design or deformation would account for that strange peak and pulling in his shirt before it penetrated the fabric and the shirt snapped back. Would also account for the large bloody wound. The gasses from the smokeless powder would momentarily puff up the shirt. You wouldn't necessarily see a flash or smoke but you would hear a muffled bang and a faint smell of cordite. Why pistol powder? Unlike rifle powders they burn much faster to deliver the most energy in a short barrel, rifle powder burns slowly over a much longer barrel.

To demonstrate the power of chemical propellants, I've headshot deer with a .17HMR at 120 meters. It's a 4.5mm ballistic tipped pellet weighing a little over a gram propelled by about .6cc or one third gram of powder. I'm a novice, some can take out rabbits at 244 and 257 meters! Here's the cartridge with a .5cc powder scoop and a AAA battery for scale.

Not saying its this cartridge or something similar but the energy potential is there with off the shelf powders and ammo.

 

[Cosmos]

I think any kind of exploding device on top of or below his shirt should have almost certainly destroyed the shirt quite visibly. Even more so when that exploding device is supposed to have also caused that massive wound on Kirks neck. Yet, that doesn’t seem to have happened. Which leads me to think it couldn’t have been an exploding device on or below Kirks shirt.

I think his necklace with the relatively “heavy“ cross (and/or other things) on it is still the most plausible/rational explanation for the behavior of the shirt.

Although you would think the necklace and/or Kirks body couldn‘t have moved that dramatically to cause the shirt to blow out that dramatically. But that is probably in reality a bit hard to say because you would need the speed and behavior of Kirks body modeled in 3D space and how that would effect that specific necklace under a shirt. But even then you have factors/dimensions/movements under his shirt that could significantly alter the behavior of the necklace that we likely will never know for sure.