Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

Whoa! Candace has a hunch that there might be a Ukrainian AZOV battalion connection particularly as it relates to Phil Lyman's young male relative (nephew/cousin?) and his two friends along with curious ties to UVU and Utah in general, as well as Tyler's Uncle Mikey - Mike Mitchell. She's says she'll have more on this tomorrow.

Hmm - that was Wednesday and so far, crickets.

If there's any validity to the AZOV involvement, then I think that's extremely dangerous territory to be investigating. I can't imagine Candace just dropping the whole thing, but maybe she'll employ better shielding tactics - if any exist.

I dunno, maybe going very loud and very public might be the only way to bring this nefarious psyop out into the blazing light of day. 🤔
Hi Jeep.

I wanted to mention, George Webb has been covering this Azov connection to "Uncle Mikey" for at least two weeks now -- and you are right, it IS dangerous. (Webb has lost two research partners, and knows when he's in danger, especially when he's on the ground in Utah.)

You can check Webb's Substack articles on this Azov connection, etc., for the receipts if you don't like listening to him (and I know some here don't). I know for myself the articles are free, but I did sign up for his free newsletter, so I'm not sure if that's required to have access to his free Substack articles.

Also: I did mention the Ukraine connection in an earlier post (#383, Sept. 18).

Because Webb has been to Utah in the past, and knows the covert ops going on there, he was already up on metadata for the Kirk assassination. (That's why he knew a day ahead of Patel that the place to look for Robinson would be St. George.)

Webb determined right away that the primary reason for the assassination was Kirk's speaking out against US support for the Ukraine war. Tyler Robinson -- and, yes, his dad -- were a part of the assassination team, and yes, it is related to Ukraine.

As in my prior post: Tyler's educational background, his high school AP calculous, his Fullbright scholarship affording his engineering training at Utah State, and his abrupt switch to Dixie Tech in St. George all support his being trained for on the ground explosives work in Ukraine which requires that form of expertise.

If you recall the "homecoming" pictures of Tyler Robinson, it was not his coming home from Jamaica where he did Mormon missionary work as was first claimed, it was his homecoming from Ukraine where he was blowing up strategic military targets. U.S. on the ground operations in Ukraine is of course illegal, and so the operation is covert.

In any event, the above is the picture the metadata constructs. It's the very scenario those running this operation are desperately seeking to conceal (including the ROTC angle, with Tyler Robinson a member, a fact which the media is actively blotting out). The ROTC, by the way, recruits college students for the military (but look it up, it's more involved than that, and quite interesting).

From the time of his childhood Tyler was trained by "Uncle Mikey" who is tied to Azov. There are pics verifying this early training. Along with those pics, the receipts related to Uncle Mikey, and his own telling background, you can see on Webb's free Substack. These are not long articles, and are filled with photos, making them easy to follow.

Armed Queers, meanwhile, is a front organization used for culling ROTC recruits who can be trained and used in Ukraine. Armed Queers is a cover for these illegal covert ops. (Again: see Webb's Substack. It's fascinating to learn who is running organizations like Armed Queers. It has nothing to do with transgenders.)

Today Webb discusses the photo that just showed up (taken by someone at the Kirk event) showing Tyler Robinson on the balcony at the time of the shooting. This means, if this case remains a "lone shooter" situation (as opposed to a team operation), Tyler will be exonerated (just as Webb has been claiming will happen, even before this pic showed up).

Remember, the father already got paid off with the million dollar "reward" money put up by that billionaire... (I'd have to search for the name). I wonder, since he got the money for turning in his son AS the shooter, how it is the Robinsons will keep the money? I believe the father was already publicly shamed into saying he would give the money away (I'm not sure to whom, the Kirk family?)... but I think if we follow closely we will learn that that money is remaining in their hands since it IS the pay off. By the way, his son was getting $100,00O for each Ukraine op he participated in.

On the matter of Tyler Robinson's father, consider the probability of this scenario (which really only Kash Patel can verify since the cover-up goes to the top): Tyler's father, Matt Robinson, WAS the 27-year veteran of the Washington County Sheriff’s Department in Utah. This Charlie Kirk assassination operation was in the works for long enough to retire Matt Robinson ahead of time and set him up with a cover, the kitchen counter guy/construction company owner. We should at the very least be skeptical when our AI searches start coordinating against the dangerously revealing scenario involving police complicity.

Also: not sure if this was covered here, but two days ago an explosive device was found in front of the building housing CAI (Center for Anticipatory Intelligence, run the the CIA) at Utah State University. My quick search on this indicates authorities exploded the device themselves as a safety precaution (although, as Webb points out, destroying evidence is key here -- considering they had to evacuate the entire building.

This explosive device discovery and detonation happened just hours before Turning Point was to have its very first meeting since the assassination of Kirk -- right there, at the very Utah State building housing CAI.

George Webb stood in front of that building just days BEFORE the explosion, at which time he was linking CAI to the Tyler Robinson operation.


This explosion got little coverage.

According to my first search yesterday, Turning Point moved their meeting to another location. They named the new location, but somehow I lost that search. However, MY SECOND SEARCH, just minutes after my first and using the same search engine (Brave AI), now stated Turning Point didn't move their meeting to another location, and that the device the authorities detonated was an "educational" device.

Gee... so they "detonated" this "educational" device?

(The explosion, by the way, was considerable, and heard on campus.)

Did you ever get the impression that there's an algorithm that changes "sensitive" content if you do more than one search on it? Has anyone else noticed this?

I then switched to my Firefox browser. Listen to this wording:

"Officers located the device and deemed it to be non-explosive. Out of an abundance of caution, the bomb squad detonated the device."

So... it's non-explosive but they blew it up anyway?

By the way, "detonate" is most often used related to bombs or explosive devices -- things already set to explode. To detonate something that isn't explosive would require explosives, if you see my point. NOW when I look up the definition of "detonate", Meriam Webster gives this as its latest example:

Authorities determined the package was not explosive but detonated it out of an abundance of caution, a USU spokesperson told Newsweek in an email Tuesday evening.—Hollie Silverman, MSNBC Newsweek, 30 Sep. 2025

Every other example Merriam Webster has using the word "detonate" points to events whereby bombs or explosive devices were detonated.

Oh, and, by the way, Firefox states that after the explosion at Turning Point's original location for their meeting (a building called Old Main, where Webb pointed out the CAI is housed), Turning Point moved their meeting to Dee Glen Smith Spectrum, also at Utah State. This was the first scenario my Brave search revealed before it was changed to Turning Point's not moving their location at all.

I'm just pointing out the forever changing landscape we are immersed in when doing this sort of research. It's disgusting how the "official story" permeates and subverts our searches. Still, the redaction, the censorship, and the substitution tell their own story. It also points to how to make sense of the Kirk assassination.

In so speaking, it occurs to me that this is the most likely scenario related to this explosion: the covert ops team related to CAI and the Robinson family, among others, need an explosion to evacuate the building where the CAI is housed since they have some serious house cleaning to do. (Remember: this exact location was part of George Webb's metadata, and he stood just outside the building talking about the role CAI plays in all this--you can find the video where he's standing in front of the building at his X account.)

BUT the covert team also want to immediately diffuse the situation (sorry for the pun) by stating it wasn't even an explosive device, that the authorities detonated it for safety, and finally, that it was so non-threatening that Turning Point still held its first meeting since the assassination of Charlie Kirk at the same location where this "non event" (explosion) took place. In other words, this CAI team had to seriously mitigate the seriousness of this explosion since they can't afford CAI exposure in such close proximity to the Kirk assassination. And yet, it seems they felt they NEEDED the explosion in the first place in order to evacuate the building, do their housecleaning -- and what? keep the pressure on Turning Point to not make waves in the future? certainly concerning Ukraine.

In so speaking, given this cover-up, and Webb's initial visit there, CAI is looking to be a key part of the team work involved in the killing of Kirk. (And Webb discloses who is running CAI, and her CIA background.)

This subsequent explosion being just one reason, George Webb continues to urge Kash Patel to return to Utah. If Patel and his crew came and set up shop there, they could obtain camera recordings (showing the gray Challenger, for example, and so establish a time line) and they could obtain documents that are beyond the reach of an on the ground reporter such as Webb, including the evidence necessary for establishing that Tyler's father WAS the 27-year veteran of the Washington County Sheriff’s Department in Utah, the prior suppression of which would be criminal (as is the police involvement itself).

EXPOSING THE TEAM

Webb has been focusing on the metadata immediately before and after the assassination. He spent some time on the actual shooting, but soon urged researchers to return to the metadata exposing those who comprise THE TEAM. If the team were to be exposed, then these Utah operations will also be exposed: the illegal covert ops tied to Azov, the ROTC recruitment for sniper and explosives training for Ukraine, and the drug trafficking (with Utah universities providing the key consumers, and where drug related mortality is rising by leaps and bounds). (This is just my off the top of my mind, partial list.)

Also: these operations are inextricably tied to Utah's governor's office. Webb draws the comparison to Iran Contra where "Iran" was something of a red herring, just as the transgender theme is with Robinson. Recall: Clinton was flying into Arkansas enormous quantities of cocaine obtained in a swap for US arms for the contras. Obviously, drug money and arms are still at issue. And as Webb points out, these operations, as it was with Clinton, are under the auspices of the governor's office.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, Utah also houses the LDL assassin team (which may or may not have been involved -- but there's a great deal to uncover related to the Mitt Romney family, its history and long-time criminal involvement, regardless... Webb lays out some of this at his Substack).

More at issue in the Kirk assassination looks to be the disaffected ATF crew headquartered in St. George who were likely hired as the on the ground Kirk assassination crew. After the assassination, they flew back to St. George, which is why Webb, given his foreknowledge of this group, knew where to look for Tyler Robinson a day before Kash Patel did. He even stood in St. George, directing Kash. He also urged Kash to come to Utah, which he subsequently did.

FIGHTING THE DEEP STATE

Trump used to say he was fighting the "Deep State." Well, as per all I've been discussing: here it is. Here is how it operates on the ground. But instead of exposing Deep State operations, which exposing the TEAM responsible for Kirk's assassination would do, Trump pushes the lone gunman, radical left vs. Christian right scenario, which keeps us all in the dark, and forever fighting one another.

Still, the silver lining in all of this is: the more researchers uncover on their own -- and it's good Candace has just learned about Uncle Mikey and his Azov connection since her viewership is what? more than a million? (far more than Webb's, in other words) -- the more pressure will be put on Kash Patel to act accordingly. That's really our best bet in this.

... of course, Candace, as Jeep's last post on this suggests, may have been warned against pursuing it any further given how dangerous it is... leaving this line of investigation to other lesser known researchers such as Webb/his team, and other citizen journalists... (look up @FrauHodl on X, for example, who has been doing great work on this, work that is credited by Webb... https://x.com/FrauHodl).
 
Looks verified that these guys were all three in the crowd at the time of the murder:
That is quite possible this blue hat guy was not the 'patsy' 'shooter' on the stairs. It is a speculation in the vacuum of proper information. But, the 'retracing the shooter' show Shaner Brodderick created on Instagram is still a big suspect. Is it simple innocent simple distraction or act done on the behalf of some body ( ex: Phil Lyman)?
 
There were posts on numbers, numerology and symbology earlier in this thread:

You meant 6 years and 66 days since whose podcast started? Charlie Kirk's?

I also noticed that September 9th was 9-9 and 2+0+2+5=9. A 999 the day before when Israel bombed Qatar.

There is some evidence of occult symbology in this assassination, eg. numerology (666 and 999), the pyramid, etc. For example, Gigi Young is pointing out that this has occult or 'dark magic' fingerprints all over it. According to the C's, the real controllers of Mossad are Kaballists.

Everytime someone dies of importance, God leaves some blueprints. That is number one. Number two, the devil leaves evidence without knowing. God also leaves something, as to say, "I knew about it, and I'm pointing to the killer and I'm pointing to this, and I am pointing to this." Then he goes into the territory of coincidences and suspicious dealings. He mentions that one of the sponsors Bill Ackman offered one million to find the guilty and after 33 hours of manhunt, not 34 or 30 or 31, but 33 (someone else may know if that is true), they found the person, and that the money will go to the killer's family since it was the father who told about the son.

9:40
Later he goes into more alleged coincidences with numbers, more and he talks about the Masons who he claims run the world.


Maybe someone else has already posted the numerology of the hats above 3x(4+7), but if you add the numbers there is a 33 coincidence. I think he tries too hard to squeeze a 47 out of the angle in Masonic symbol, I found it to be 60. Anyway he has a few more observations, and what he encourages people to do in general is to look beyond the obvious rather than jump to conclusions, believe in lies, or for that matter suspect that everyone who leaves a clue from our perspective is necessarily guilty, because the clues might have been left by God for those who know how to observe. What he thinks people ought to know is the need to rise up, because the devil (in his language) is trying to silence people. Here he is referring to Isaiah 53:7

Even more speculative:
M is letter number 13. In Tarot the number 13 is traditionally associated with the Death card in the Major Arcana. The Raider-Waite-Smith version looks like this:

The number 33 is also discussed by Prof. Jiang in one of his latest interviews, and I found it very interesting. He talks about various "secret societies" and other groups of power, and their beliefs, including religious, and provides more examples of the presence of "33" in and around the assassination event.


The related part starts at 7:39 (USA/Iran/Israel, generals gathering and how much of it is a show; obsession with Iran) - nothing new, but you can get a feel of the way he looks at it;
turns to eschatology at 16:29;
and moves to numbers from 23:08 to 29-30:00 (Kirk topic starts at 21:45).

If anyone wants to save time, skip the (geo)political background and go straight to the 16:29 timestamp.
 
In Candace's last video, she again referenced AZOV and oddities that might be associated. She indicated more on the subject would be presented next week, so she's apparently not scared off.

I wanted to mention, George Webb has been covering this Azov connection
Thanks so much for that huge data dumb on the subject. One would think his investigation would have been brought to Candace's attention. I was aware of CAI at USU and the CIA link.

Webb determined right away that the primary reason for the assassination was Kirk's speaking out against US support for the Ukraine war.
Which would account for Charlie being on the Ukraine Death List as previously noted.

Let's hope that one way or the other, this diabolical scheme and all its insidious components and players are exposed and brought to justice - just like what happened with the JFK assassination. I don't think I'm going to live long enough.
 
I wanted to mention, George Webb has been covering this Azov connection to "Uncle Mikey" for at least two weeks now -- and you are right, it IS dangerous. (Webb has lost two research partners, and knows when he's in danger, especially when he's on the ground in Utah.)
Just a note to be a bit careful about George Webb, it’s debatable just how reliable/trustworthy he is. Niall replied earlier in this thread about him:

There's nothing else to see. There are multiple 'Matt Robinsons' in Utah so it's a case of mistaken identity. One was a retired sheriff, the other runs a kitchen counter-top company.

As for George Webb, we've noted in the past how consistently wrong he is about 'deep politics' and 'psy-ops'.
 
Just a note to be a bit careful about George Webb,
And he misidentified the wrong Dairy Queen that Tyler had been at for a meal. He instead went on about how it was closed and wiped clean. Not a good sign if he got such a significant detail totally wrong. But, who knows, maybe he will come up with credible connections and evidence that destroys the so far, bizarre and convoluted narrative that's currently evolving.
 
Candace mentioned how weirdly a lot of people in the crowd on that day (and most of those who spoke to the media), weren't UVU students at all! Don't they have day jobs which required their attendance?
It's interesting, and a bit surprising, how there always seem to be individuals who are willing to give misleading or completely false testimony.

I've been thinking about this, and 'played it over' in my head: so, some 'deep state' guy comes to you and says "Okay, I'll give you 300.000 $ if you tell to the media how you saw the shooter on the roof at this exact location, looking like this and this, and witnessed the bullet pierce CK's carotid artery. And if you do this, you'll also please your bosses and get a promotion". Would this be enough of an incentive for anyone here? Certainly not! If someone was murdered, I don't think anyone with a conscience would agree to lie for money.

So, what's up with these lying individuals? Are they all in some sort of 'Eyes Wide Shut satanic club' or something? Are they MKULTRA/Greeenbaum victims? Are they possessed by demonic/4DSTS entities? Maybe the simplest explanation is that they are psychopaths that have been identified by the higher-ups as useful minions.

Dunno, just wondering. 🙁
 
It's interesting, and a bit surprising, how there always seem to be individuals who are willing to give misleading or completely false testimony.

I've been thinking about this, and 'played it over' in my head: so, some 'deep state' guy comes to you and says "Okay, I'll give you 300.000 $ if you tell to the media how you saw the shooter on the roof at this exact location, looking like this and this, and witnessed the bullet pierce CK's carotid artery. And if you do this, you'll also please your bosses and get a promotion". Would this be enough of an incentive for anyone here? Certainly not! If someone was murdered, I don't think anyone with a conscience would agree to lie for money.

So, what's up with these lying individuals? Are they all in some sort of 'Eyes Wide Shut satanic club' or something? Are they MKULTRA/Greeenbaum victims? Are they possessed by demonic/4DSTS entities? Maybe the simplest explanation is that they are psychopaths that have been identified by the higher-ups as useful minions.

Dunno, just wondering. 🙁
This is the way I see it - comparing it to layers in the corporate software development and '4W and 1 H' components of research.
  • C-suite guys (Top management whose designation starts with 'C') : Bibi, sponsors and so on. They express their wish and fund it ( 'Why'). Pass it down to next layer.
  • Architecture groups: CIA/MOSSAD type people, sit down, plan, decide who will do what - In short, they plan and coordinate on the behalf of above layer. - i.e. who, when, what and How . Every thing is compartmentalized with backup plans. They keep monitoring to make dynamic changes. Newly appointed Washington FBI chief on the day of shooting could be part of it. These are professional people.
  • Development Team ( App or software) : Compartmentalized orders goes out through handlers to the individual teams. In this case, as of now, this is how it looks comparing it to what C's said.
    • Original 'Patsy'/Decoy component: Mike Michelle ( retired sheriff who handled Tyler Robinson) supposed to make Tyler Robinson go into the 'position' of firing. - This didn't work. So they have to go for Plan B.
      • It is this Mike Michelle who has connections to the Azov (as we know from the current research)
      • Probably George Zinn is part of Decoy.
    • Phil Lyman 'Media' Component: It looks Phil Lyman family once owned UVU area, he was a Gubernatorial candidate and local powerful man. Architects must have lined up the nuts and bolts of show well in advance ( door cam footage, military guy taking 'Just saying' footage of shooter , post assassination interviews etc. ). Given that somehow Tyler didn't went into 'position', they have to hurry up to lineup somebody in the same route etc. This component Candace ( and all volunteer little helpers, people who keep on pointing at suspicious behavior of security etc.) able to expose it.
    • Actual Shooting Component: This worked as planned through CK's security team, setting up mike to ultimate assassination, driving CK to a far away hospital (with no relevant experience) to be checked by new doctor to make sure that it is covered up.
There may be some minor overlaps of these layers, but mostly compartmentalized. Ultimate aim is to dump it on 'lone gunman' for the public (to believe) - the REAL 'resource' they want to control and coopt. Script is same, worked for 2 centuries since the start of Industrialization in the Western world. They are doing because it worked (aka people believed). This leads to question of Why it worked?
  • True, blaming it on single person or entity is easy to cover up and whip up antagonism among specific group. But, that doesn't explain why people believed it. People are fickle and selfish. Those who has some benefit from it can be coopted . What about silent majority others?
    • Is it related to Monotheism origins, industrialization that consolidated power in few people's hands and the 'magic' of Western Central banks that spun 'Credit' economy?
 
Ultimate aim is to dump it on 'lone gunman' for the public (to believe) - the REAL 'resource' they want to control and coopt. Script is same, worked for 2 centuries since the start of Industrialization in the Western world. They are doing because it worked (aka people believed). This leads to question of Why it worked?
  • True, blaming it on single person or entity is easy to cover up and whip up antagonism among specific group. But, that doesn't explain why people believed it. People are fickle and selfish. Those who has some benefit from it can be coopted . What about silent majority others?
    • Is it related to Monotheism origins, industrialization that consolidated power in few people's hands and the 'magic' of Western Central banks that spun 'Credit' economy?
Asked Grok about this. -- why lone-gun-man theories are effective in the western world instead of eastern world?
### Cultural Foundations: Individualism vs. Collectivism

Lone gunman theories—narratives positing that a single individual acts alone in high-profile violence, like assassinations—resonate more deeply in Western societies due to entrenched cultural individualism. This contrasts with Eastern collectivism, where events are often framed through relational, systemic, or group dynamics. Psychologist Geert Hofstede's cultural dimensions framework quantifies this: Western nations (e.g., U.S. scores 91/100 on individualism) prioritize personal agency and autonomy, making "lone hero" or "lone villain" stories intuitively appealing. Eastern societies (e.g., China scores 20/100) emphasize harmony, interdependence, and collective responsibility, rendering isolated actor explanations feel incomplete or implausible.

AspectWestern World (e.g., U.S., UK)Eastern World (e.g., China, India)
Core ValueIndividualism: Focus on personal motives, choices, and impact.Collectivism: Emphasis on social networks, hierarchies, and group influences.
Narrative PreferenceSimple, dramatic arcs (e.g., "one man changes history"). Appeals to media and public psychology.Complex, relational stories (e.g., conspiracies tied to clans, states, or castes).
Psychological FitAligns with "fundamental attribution error"—overemphasizing personal traits over context.Favors situational attributions, seeing lone actions as symptoms of broader forces.

### Historical and Media Influences

Western history amplifies this: Events like John Wilkes Booth's solo assassination of Abraham Lincoln (1865) or Lee Harvey Oswald's alleged lone role in JFK's death (1963) fit a mythic template of rugged individualism, reinforced by Hollywood (e.g., films like *The Parallax View* still center individual paranoia). Official reports, like the Warren Commission, leverage this by simplifying chaos into a digestible "lone wolf" frame, reducing public anxiety over systemic failures.

In the East, assassinations are rarely isolated in popular discourse. Indira Gandhi's 1984 killing by Sikh bodyguards is attributed to ethnic tensions and state policies, not just the shooters. Japan's 1930s militarist plots involved factions, not solitaries. Media in collectivist cultures (e.g., Bollywood epics or Chinese state narratives) favors ensemble casts of motives—family vendettas, ideological cabals—mirroring social realities where loyalty networks (e.g., guanxi in China) underpin power.

### Institutional and Psychological Effectiveness

- **Trust Dynamics**: Western democracies, despite conspiracy subcultures, have higher baseline trust in lone-actor probes (e.g., 60% of Americans accepted the Oswald theory in 1960s Gallup polls, vs. persistent skepticism today { As per C's, 70% don't trust CK narration now - i.e. shift from 40% non acceptance to 70% non acceptance - 30% shift} ). Eastern authoritarian contexts breed blanket distrust, pushing toward grand conspiracy views (e.g., post-Mao purges seen as elite plots, not individual whims).

- **Cognitive Ease**: Research in cross-cultural psychology (e.g., Nisbett's *The Geography of Thought*, 2003) shows Westerners process causality linearly (A causes B), suiting lone gunman simplicity. Easterners think holistically (A interacts with B in a web), demanding multifaceted explanations.

In essence, these theories "work" in the West because they affirm cultural myths of self-determination, offering closure in turbulent times. In the East, they falter against a worldview where no thread pulls alone—events are tapestries of ties. This isn't universal (e.g., urbanizing Asia shows hybrid shifts), but it explains the divide.

does this individualism related to monotheism?

### The Link Between Individualism and Monotheism: A Nuanced Connection

Yes, there's a compelling scholarly argument tying Western individualism to monotheism—particularly the Abrahamic traditions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam)—but it's more associative than causal, and it varies by historical and cultural context. Thinkers like Max Weber and sociologists such as Robert Bellah have explored how monotheistic worldviews foster a sense of personal agency and moral autonomy, which aligns with individualism. However, this isn't universal across all monotheistic societies (e.g., Islam's emphasis on ummah or community), and Eastern collectivism draws from polytheistic or non-theistic traditions that prioritize relational harmony. Below, I'll break it down.

#### Core Mechanisms of the Connection
Monotheism posits a single, omnipotent deity as the ultimate authority, which can shift focus from diffuse spiritual forces (as in polytheism) to a direct, individual relationship between the person and the divine. This encourages:
- **Personal Moral Accountability**: Salvation or judgment is often an individual's burden (e.g., Protestant sola fide—"faith alone"—stresses personal belief over communal rituals).
- **Linear Causality and Agency**: One God implies one "prime mover," mirroring how lone actors (like in gunman theories) are seen as pivotal in history.
- **Historical Reinforcement**: In Europe, the Reformation (16th century) amplified this, promoting literacy, self-interpretation of scriptures, and economic individualism, per Weber's *The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism* (1905).

In contrast, Eastern philosophies (e.g., Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism) often view reality as interconnected cycles (karma, dharma), where individual actions ripple through social or cosmic webs, downplaying solitary agency.

#### Comparative Framework
Here's a table contrasting how religious paradigms influence individualism/collectivism, with examples relevant to our prior discussion on narrative preferences:

Religious ParadigmKey Features Influencing Social OutlookLink to Individualism/CollectivismExample in Narratives (e.g., Violence/Assassinations)
Monotheism (Abrahamic)Singular God; personal covenant; emphasis on individual soul/judgment.High individualism: "One God, one self" extends to personal heroes/villains.Western lone-gunman stories (e.g., Oswald as "fallen individual" in JFK lore, echoing biblical betrayers like Judas).
Polytheism/Non-Theism (Eastern)Multiple deities/forces or no creator god; focus on balance, interdependence, reincarnation.High collectivism: Actions embedded in relational duties (e.g., filial piety, caste).Eastern conspiracy frames (e.g., Gandhi's death tied to Sikh-Hindu communal karma, not just the gunman's "solo sin").

#### Caveats and Broader Context
- **Not Deterministic**: Monotheism doesn't *guarantee* individualism—Islamic societies, for instance, blend it with strong communal ties (e.g., zakat charity systems). Judaism historically emphasized covenantal community. The West's individualism owes as much to Enlightenment secularism and industrialization as to religion.
- **Eastern Exceptions**: Some monotheistic minorities in the East (e.g., Zoroastrianism in India) adapt to collectivist norms, while secular Western Europe shows declining religiosity without eroding individualism.
- **Modern Shifts**: Globalization blurs lines—e.g., rising evangelical Christianity in collectivist Asia introduces individualistic elements.

In short, monotheism provides fertile ground for individualism by centering the "one" (God, self, actor) in explanatory frameworks, making lone-gunman theories culturally sticky in the West. It's a thread in the tapestry, not the whole cloth—culture weaves many influences. If you'd like dives into specific texts (e.g., Weber) or examples, let me know!
 
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And he misidentified the wrong Dairy Queen that Tyler had been at for a meal. He instead went on about how it was closed and wiped clean. Not a good sign if he got such a significant detail totally wrong. But, who knows, maybe he will come up with credible connections and evidence that destroys the so far, bizarre and convoluted narrative that's currently evolving.
Hi again. Actually, although it's true he initially went to a different Dairy Queen than the one Candace had brought up, his reasons for sticking with the second Dairy Queen seem reasonable enough. It is right across the street from Brigham Young and the Lacrosse field (seems there is a Lacrosse player in the mix with all this as well). In that sense, it would be where Tyler Robinson would likely meet up with students he was engaging with (as in directing the activities of). And the fact of its being destroyed in the same way the area just in front of where Kirk was assassinated was cemented over does seem consistent with the cover-up going on. Also, it's closer to the airport than the other Dairy Queen, which was more isolated, and less accessible to students. It wasn't the likely meeting place, in other words. And it's proximity to the airport may play a role if Tyler got on the plane to St. George, since there is also the time element to consider.

I'm not saying Webb is right. He, himself, admits he could be wrong. But the original address Candace received might also be wrong, and Webb's reasons for sticking with the second location don't seem far fetched.

What Webb does keep pointing out, however, is that Patel should be down there obtaining the video coverage of the area showing the Charger, for example, and establishing a Tyler timeline. Instead, he's the only journalist I know of that's there every day checking out each location. The guy barely sleeps, and offers a significant range of metadata that lays out a kind of landscape that stands apart from other types of journalism. And he's offering a very useful blueprint to any other citizen journalist who wants to join in. He's also putting himself in danger, which is no small thing.
 
Just a note to be a bit careful about George Webb, it’s debatable just how reliable/trustworthy he is. Niall replied earlier in this thread about him:
I Arwenn. I wish we could move on from this dismissal of George Webb. Hopefully, in the posts I've been writing related to his work there is enough material to take into consideration, and even re-direct some of our thinking.

I find in Webb's work a different, or maybe I should say a lively, at times challenging way to approach the difficult task of tracking covert operations. Yes, we might lazily go along with our AI searches telling us that Tyler's dad wasn't the same Matt Robinson who was the 27-year veteran of the Washington County Sheriff’s Department in Utah who retired not long ago. OR we might consider the alternative reading that Webb offers. You can check my post on this (#1456). With enough metadata (including a lot of on the ground looking) one can come up with a theory, or a narrative of what we think is going on, in much the same way the best detective stories develop. And, similar to such detective stories, the detective may feel to be stumbling in the dark for much of the time, landing on bits and pieces that may or may not prove relevant in the end. To me that's a stimulating approach. It has its triumphs and its pitfalls, but it's always moving in the direction of a more comprehensive understanding -- of this particular event, yes, but also of future and past events that leave a similar footprint.
 
I Arwenn. I wish we could move on from this dismissal of George Webb. Hopefully, in the posts I've been writing related to his work there is enough material to take into consideration, and even re-direct some of our thinking.
I've made several mistakes in the past of having 'lionized' someone or being very impressed by certain so called independent reserachers, to later discover that they were not trustworthy or, worst case, planted opposition that deliberately were misleading others. So, I think that us who are 'harassing' you about George Webb, are just worried that you are digging yourself a hole, as you seem quite heavily 'taken in' by him and trusting what he says. It's good to remember that there are, indeed, tricksters and grifters who appear very intelligent and say just the right things to get you hooked. Take Matthew Ehret, for instance. Brilliant (and fast!) talker, exceptional memory and that sparky sense of humor. I remember being very impressed by him: this was the new Renaissance Man, the new Leonardo DaVinci! However, as time passed and as I and others here scrutinized his work and ideas more deeply, and as he 'came more out of the closet' about what he really thought about things and what ideas he tried to push, it became clear that he was not what he seemed to be, and that he probably had a somewhat dishonest agenda to serve his masters.

So, I'd be careful in investing too much trust in GW. The fact that many, if not most of your posts, reference him is, and you get quite defensive as others question him is, in my opinion, an indication of that you might be too much enthralled by him and his ideas.

The guy barely sleeps, and offers a significant range of metadata that lays out a kind of landscape that stands apart from other types of journalism. And he's offering a very useful blueprint to any other citizen journalist who wants to join in. He's also putting himself in danger, which is no small thing.
For instance, how do you know that any of the above is true?
 
presenting nonsensical evidence of how CK was shot from the back. I wouldn't be suprised if JG is on the Zionist payroll to muddy the waters.

Muddy the waters?! How about to totally eradicate the idea that an exploding mic took Charlie out! And gee, who is well identified with exploding devices? He was shot from the back! He was shot from the back! His security team rushed in to valiantly save his life! Do not question the obvious!

Yeah - don't think the public's buying it. Redacted is increasingly losing credibility with me as they do aid in the muddying of the water.
 
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