Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

LOL! I've had more thoughts on the matter!

The thing is this is a fluid situation and what happened in the past may not be whats happening now with changing circumstances.
The changing circumstance is Charlies murder which is a more personal matter in some ways to the Trump administration but also implies a larger national threat. So using Candace as a bargaining chip may not be on the table this time and they'll let her fly.
 
There seem to be several factions within the US government:

1) globalists (control the liberals, etc.)
2) nationalists (Trump)
3) zionists ("allied" with the nationalists)
4) technocrats (also "allied" with the nationalists)

Trump's nationalists are partly in the deep state too, though which of these factions controls how much of the current deep state is unclear.
There are many factions, yes. I simplify which means to me you either support a Constitutional Republic with freedom for its people or you don't. We've come a long way from that ideal governance. I now fall into black and white thinking it seems :lol:. You are either for us or your against us. Yes, the ds is still mucking things up.
 
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There is a video circulating on X of the fellow who was asking a question to Charlie Kirk in the moments before he was shot. This video appears to show the man 'practicing' the exact same shocked reaction and choreographed reaction with his hands well before the actual assassination took place. Coincidence?


Apparently, the questioner's name is Hunter Kozak, and according the same poster on X, his Dad works as a director for Jimmy Kimmel.

 
There is a video circulating on X of the fellow who was asking a question to Charlie Kirk in the moments before he was shot. This video appears to show the man being filmed 'practicing' the exact same shocked reaction and choreographed reaction with his hands well before the actual assassination took place. Coincidence?
The first day it was suggested the person asking the question should be investigated.
 
my polaroid of my feelings about this whole CK-Assassination thing looks like this: CK is dead. Erika is shady, looks like groomed to me. The whole Judeo-Christian thing is a question mark in itself, since he was described as evangelical, she as a christian. Evangelicals are protestant christians. They married in Jerusalem, Israel. What is that? One of their Photos of their marriage there in Jerusalem looks like taken on a construction site or a dumpster or something like that. The whole project TPUSA was tainted from the very beginning, since it was based on jewish donors. Not because they were primarily jewish, but they were donors. Kirk was - at the beginning of TPUSA - quite young, I think he made a "deal with the devil" right there, unknowingly and without knowing it to be a tough game, just by being participate and accepting those donations. Of course they wanted something from it, right?
 
this seems like an (orchestrated?) cult... who printed the Signs and who paid for it? ???

I saw a clip of one of Charlie's appearances in South Korea, and they were absolutely nuts for him! I was really surprised by that.
Charlie Kirk's South Korea tour took place in September 2025, days before his fatal shooting in Utah. During his visit, Kirk spoke at the "Build Up Korea 2025" forum in Seoul, where he praised the rise of conservative youth and warned about a "globalist menace". He also addressed the importance of faith and the traditional family unit to address demographic and cultural challenges in South Korea.
Just days before his death, on Sept. 5 and 6, Kirk visited Korea for a conservative conference, where he stressed the importance of the Korea-U.S. alliance and called for resistance against communism. It was his first and last visit to the country — and to Asia.

This may shed some light on your question:
Charlie Kirk enters Asia

Into this ecosystem stepped Charlie Kirk, the revival’s youth apostle. Barely out of his teens, he founded Turning Point USA and styled himself as the broker of campus conservatism. His genius lay not in argument but in mobilization. His conferences resembled evangelical youth gatherings: booming music, celebrity speakers, altar-call-like pledges of belonging. Theology was thin, but the form was unmistakably evangelical: testimony, conversion, mission. Liberal campuses became hostile mission fields; professors secular heretics; classroom speech acts of testimony. Kirk preached grievance as gospel. His gift was to make conservatism feel like revival. And when he was assassinated, the response was unmistakably religious. He was described as a martyr, a soldier, a witness. Vigils resembled revivals, with tears, chants, and vows of mission. That South Koreans joined in, waving American flags and chanting his name, was not incidental. It was homage. The form had come full circle. Revival had returned to its crucible.

Kirk had been in Seoul for the far-right “Build Up Korea 2025” forum, where he saluted a rising generation of conservative youth. Days later, the conservative student group Freedom Univ. – formed in early 2025 by supporters of former President Yoon Suk Yeol after his controversial use of martial law – organized a public memorial for Kirk in Seoul, complete with flags, songs, and testimonies. Meanwhile, in the months before his assassination, broader geopolitical entanglements underscored the Korea-U.S. nexus: South Korean workers caught in a US immigration raid at a Hyundai-linked battery plant were sent home in March 2025, even as Korean far-right youth groups styled themselves after Trump-era MAGA squads and paraded through Seoul under names like the “White Skull Squad”. These events illustrate the transnational feedback loop at work, where domestic anxieties in Korea are intertwined with American populist aesthetics and conflicts.

Days later, in Tokyo, Kirk allied with Sanseito, Japan’s anti-immigration upstart, decrying a “silent invasion” of foreigners. Kirk’s Asian tour thus read as both export and mirror – American populist theatrics absorbed abroad, and local anxieties repackaged as part of a worldwide struggle.

Charlie Kirk’s Asian tour was never about listening; it was about drawing maps. His brief foray into Seoul and Tokyo did not reveal the distinct crises of two societies so much as it redrafted them into the coordinates of an American culture war. Korea’s institutional resilience against presidential overreach became “lawfare,” Japan’s modest foreign-born population morphed into “mass migration,” and these two developments were combined into a single narrative of civilizational siege. It was less reportage than ideological cartography: a way of projecting Phoenix and Dallas onto Gangnam and Ginza, and telling his audience that their struggle was everywhere, that the lexicon of loss and purity spoke all tongues. The irony, of course, was that in forcing these echoes, Kirk betrayed their fragility. His script travelled, but only by flattening realities into slogans, by asking others to suspend disbelief and see themselves in an American mirror. What he staged in Asia was not discovery but continuity – an itinerant sermon meant to prove that a movement facing limits at home could still imagine itself as global.

In South Korea, many young men, unsettled by feminism, affirmative action, or shifting gender norms, turn to anti-feminist forums that recast their frustrations as evidence of a larger cultural war. This frame transforms private insecurity into collective grievance, dovetailing with the moral absolutism of revivalist politics. Alongside them stand digital natives for whom ideology matters less than aesthetics: they consume politics as spectacle – memes, rallies, and viral clips – where leaders are cast as heroes, opponents as villains, and history itself as a stage for cinematic revenge.

Thus, when Kirk’s name resounded in Seoul, it dramatized more than mourning. It revealed a shift: the fusion of politics and revival had migrated from palace to plaza, from decree to spectacle. Sovereignty was now performed, not proclaimed. The script was portable, franchisable, and even algorithmic.

The spectacle may appear absurd, but it is the final act of a century-long circulation. Evangelicalism was exported, transformed, re-imported, politicized, and exported again. Trump’s rallies, Kirk’s conferences, and now Seoul’s mourning belong to the same lineage: politics conducted as revival. The circle is complete. America’s political religion, born in the tents of the Great Awakening and intensified in the revival halls of Pyongyang, has become a global liturgy. It belongs not only to Dallas or Washington but also to Seoul. Suppose the 20th century was the age of the nation-state. In that case, the 21st may be the age of transnational revival, where theology, politics, and media converge into a single performance of grievance and belonging. The question now is whether democratic institutions – in Korea, America, and beyond – can resist not only coups from above but revivals from below, channelling moral language toward constitutional humility rather than crusade.
 
There is a video circulating on X of the fellow who was asking a question to Charlie Kirk in the moments before he was shot. This video appears to show the man 'practicing' the exact same shocked reaction and choreographed reaction with his hands well before the actual assassination took place. Coincidence?


Apparently, the questioner's name is Hunter Kozak, and according the same poster on X, his Dad works as a director for Jimmy Kimmel.


Found his X account. In the vid below he said that he made a video about CK a few weeks back but I haven't found that video yet. He's a lefty and disagreed with a lot that Charlie said, but also disagrees with him being shot.

 
There is a video circulating on X of the fellow who was asking a question to Charlie Kirk in the moments before he was shot. This video appears to show the man 'practicing' the exact same shocked reaction and choreographed reaction with his hands well before the actual assassination took place. Coincidence?
Most likely a coincidence, because it could very well just be his automatic reaction to things, or even an itchy head. But the connection to Kimmel is the odd thing, given Kimmel's immediate reaction to the case being the opposite of everyone else's in the world.
 
I don't know if anything has been published about the post-crime scene. As far as we know, the entire crime scene was completely altered a week later, including floors, paving stones, the trapdoor, grass, paint on ceilings and walls... what's more, finding images wasn't easy. They probably didn't want any dogs to identify anything strange, or simply wanted to further obscure the story. Finding images wasn't easy either.
September 19, 2025 /Local News
(Orem, UT) — The place where conservative commentator Charlie Kirk was fatally shot now looks different than it did last week. Students at Utah Valley University returned to class Wednesday and noticed the changes. They say the grass where Kirk fell bleeding has been pulled up and replaced with bricks where people are leaving mementos. No word yet on whether a permanent memorial will be erected. Meanwhile, counselors remain on campus to help students deal with the aftermath of Kirk’s assassination.
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Utah Valley University is reopening its courtyard where conservative activist Charlie Kirk was assassinated last week, replacing the grass area with stones. CBS News’ @carterevans has more tonight (9/15) on the CBS Evening News at 6:30 p.m. ET.
 
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