Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history
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Candace revealed a number of things in her latest video that I find fascinating and very interesting on several levels. It more or less revolves around what Ben Shapiro is doing now and the woman she later brings up that did an interview with her shortly after the assassination of Kirk. The parts about Shapiro start right at the beginning and (quite a lot later in the video) culminates on what he just said towards Megyn Kelly at a public event:
Before I get into that, I would like to say that it looks like large portions of the American (and also, global) population now pretty much seem to (rather correctly) suspect that "Israel" is likely "the party" that killed Kirk, first and foremost. The only thing that seems to be missing there is the smoking gun for the case, otherwise it stinks so much too high heavens by now from so many angles that it has become almost an inescapable truth despite the lack of smoking gun evidence. I think that all of that is very significant and probably has global consequences we can't even fully grasp at the moment.
Now to what Candace is saying and presenting in the video, first, about Ben Shapiro:
- I agree with her that it is very revealing for the reasons she is exemplifying, but I think it is also very revealing on other angles she doesn't seem to have fully realized or addressed as of now.
- Candace is basically saying/suggesting that Ben Shapiro is becoming undone publically now by his own actions and crude lying, and I agree with her that it pretty much looks like it. Part of it seems to be that he is getting desperate, but likely not only in the ways she is proposing. Now the interesting thing is, as she is saying as well, he used to do his dirty tricks more behind the scenes through others and now is revealing his nastiness more directly publically.
- Now, what I want to get at is that it has been (and continuous to be) pretty clear that Ben Shapiro is a rather key figure that works probably in rather large amounts directly for "Israel/Zionist" causes. Listen to what he is saying toward Megyn Kelly right at the beginning. Ben basically pretty directly blurs out that "we" wanted that Tucker and others like him blame "the left" and go really hard on them after the Kirk assassination. Is Ben revealing here not only one probable key initial agenda "they" wanted to accomplish in the first place by killing Kirk? Namely, a divide and conquer strategy by igniting "the left" against "the right" possibly not only in America but globally? And could it be that "they" are not only "Israel/Zionists/deep staters in the US", but actually, Psychopaths? Is he pretty stupidly blurring out "their" real agenda?
- Listen to what Ben says and how he says it. I've seldom seen a more clear and obvious attempt of literal Gaslighting of a person (Kelly) and the audience at large who listens to it by telling obvious lies. Notice how Ben rather expertly starts off soft and "innocent/well-meaning" and then increases the heat of manipulation. Also keep in mind what Candace reveals of how the audience probably was inorganically filled with people cheering for what Ben is saying in preparation for this take down and attack on Kelly in order to force Kelly (and everyone listening) to disavow Tucker and Candace. That was probably done and prepared by Ben himself and/or his team beforehand. I think Candace suggestion in that regard isn't unlikely. Then notice how Ben culminates his manipulation of Kelly/Audience by a strong and obvious lie: That Candace is accusing Erika of killing her husband. Then Kelly asks, paraphrasing, "is that what Candace is saying?" And Ben responds with a strong "Yes!". Then Kelly asks him again, paraphrasing, "is Candace saying that Erika killed her husband?" Then Ben almost automatically switches (probably at some level exactly knowing that he just lied) and phrases it differently by not again saying that Erika killed Kirk but that "insiders at TPUSA" and quote "others on the right" are being accused by Candace of being involved in the murder of Kirk and ends it by saying, paraphrasing, "yes, that is what I'm saying". Ok, I come right out here and ask the obvious question: Are we seeing a Psychopath at work here, namely Ben, who previously operated quite a bit more in the shadows from behind the scenes not fully revealing his true colors? And/or are we seeing a rather devious manipulation that happens rather naturally/automatically through that person named Ben (who might not be a full-blown psychopath), who might or might not be fully aware of what he is doing? I think what I'm describing here and what follows and the whole video above by Candace might be a very interesting case to look into by @Approaching Infinity for his Ponerology substack.
- Be it as it may, could it be that Ben and others like him (and/or people he works for and/or he is aligned with in the background) are becoming so desperate that they now start to expose themselves publically, primarily fueled by wishful thinking?
- Later in the video, Candace brings up the interview she did with a woman shortly after the assassination of Kirk. It starts here. I won't summarize any of it this time, but if you can, try to watch those portions yourself. Again, I would ask: Could it be that Candace is actually speaking to a Psychopath, in this case, a woman? And/or someone or something else that Łobaczewskihas described in his book, not necessarily "a psychopath"? AND/or someone speaking on the behalf of "Psychopaths"?
- So that brings me to the other key thing I would like to highlight: In the context of the above, I would like to note how Candace seems to react and explain to herself the behaviors of both Ben and that woman. Notice how she seems to explain it to herself by entertaining the idea that Ben and/or this woman were or are getting nervous and/or desperate and/or that they are "children" and/or "childish" in the sense that they "just don't know what they are doing" and/or "are not educated enough" or that they are "naive" or that they "were on drugs/alcohol". Unsurprisingly, the key thing Candace seems to be missing might in fact be that there are indeed pretty evil people out there who don't do any of those things for the reasons normal people like Candace and us would think they would do. And more specifically, that there are "Psychopaths" and/or similar "souless" people who do things like that for entirely different reasons, often being fully conscious of the lying and why they do it and/or perhaps often being willing total channels for evil acting through them.
- So naturally, what Candace tries to make sense of in the whole Kirk thing and other things she has woken up towards is probably not really "Israel", "Jews" the "CIA" or even any other monikers, but the machinations of "Psychopaths" and also normal people through which higher negative forces can and do work, namely 4D STS.
- I can't quite articulate and think it through at the moment, but the way Candace and many "of us normal people" try to make sense of some of the examples above-mentioned might be serious hindrances and even potential points of derailments in our attempt to understand reality. Candace is coming really close to key things here, I think, she just can't articulate and/or truly make sense of it and what it truly means.
Before I get into that, I would like to say that it looks like large portions of the American (and also, global) population now pretty much seem to (rather correctly) suspect that "Israel" is likely "the party" that killed Kirk, first and foremost. The only thing that seems to be missing there is the smoking gun for the case, otherwise it stinks so much too high heavens by now from so many angles that it has become almost an inescapable truth despite the lack of smoking gun evidence. I think that all of that is very significant and probably has global consequences we can't even fully grasp at the moment.
Now to what Candace is saying and presenting in the video, first, about Ben Shapiro:
- I agree with her that it is very revealing for the reasons she is exemplifying, but I think it is also very revealing on other angles she doesn't seem to have fully realized or addressed as of now.
- Candace is basically saying/suggesting that Ben Shapiro is becoming undone publically now by his own actions and crude lying, and I agree with her that it pretty much looks like it. Part of it seems to be that he is getting desperate, but likely not only in the ways she is proposing. Now the interesting thing is, as she is saying as well, he used to do his dirty tricks more behind the scenes through others and now is revealing his nastiness more directly publically.
- Now, what I want to get at is that it has been (and continuous to be) pretty clear that Ben Shapiro is a rather key figure that works probably in rather large amounts directly for "Israel/Zionist" causes. Listen to what he is saying toward Megyn Kelly right at the beginning. Ben basically pretty directly blurs out that "we" wanted that Tucker and others like him blame "the left" and go really hard on them after the Kirk assassination. Is Ben revealing here not only one probable key initial agenda "they" wanted to accomplish in the first place by killing Kirk? Namely, a divide and conquer strategy by igniting "the left" against "the right" possibly not only in America but globally? And could it be that "they" are not only "Israel/Zionists/deep staters in the US", but actually, Psychopaths? Is he pretty stupidly blurring out "their" real agenda?
- Listen to what Ben says and how he says it. I've seldom seen a more clear and obvious attempt of literal Gaslighting of a person (Kelly) and the audience at large who listens to it by telling obvious lies. Notice how Ben rather expertly starts off soft and "innocent/well-meaning" and then increases the heat of manipulation. Also keep in mind what Candace reveals of how the audience probably was inorganically filled with people cheering for what Ben is saying in preparation for this take down and attack on Kelly in order to force Kelly (and everyone listening) to disavow Tucker and Candace. That was probably done and prepared by Ben himself and/or his team beforehand. I think Candace suggestion in that regard isn't unlikely. Then notice how Ben culminates his manipulation of Kelly/Audience by a strong and obvious lie: That Candace is accusing Erika of killing her husband. Then Kelly asks, paraphrasing, "is that what Candace is saying?" And Ben responds with a strong "Yes!". Then Kelly asks him again, paraphrasing, "is Candace saying that Erika killed her husband?" Then Ben almost automatically switches (probably at some level exactly knowing that he just lied) and phrases it differently by not again saying that Erika killed Kirk but that "insiders at TPUSA" and quote "others on the right" are being accused by Candace of being involved in the murder of Kirk and ends it by saying, paraphrasing, "yes, that is what I'm saying". Ok, I come right out here and ask the obvious question: Are we seeing a Psychopath at work here, namely Ben, who previously operated quite a bit more in the shadows from behind the scenes not fully revealing his true colors? And/or are we seeing a rather devious manipulation that happens rather naturally/automatically through that person named Ben (who might not be a full-blown psychopath), who might or might not be fully aware of what he is doing? I think what I'm describing here and what follows and the whole video above by Candace might be a very interesting case to look into by @Approaching Infinity for his Ponerology substack.
- Be it as it may, could it be that Ben and others like him (and/or people he works for and/or he is aligned with in the background) are becoming so desperate that they now start to expose themselves publically, primarily fueled by wishful thinking?
- Later in the video, Candace brings up the interview she did with a woman shortly after the assassination of Kirk. It starts here. I won't summarize any of it this time, but if you can, try to watch those portions yourself. Again, I would ask: Could it be that Candace is actually speaking to a Psychopath, in this case, a woman? And/or someone or something else that Łobaczewskihas described in his book, not necessarily "a psychopath"? AND/or someone speaking on the behalf of "Psychopaths"?
- So that brings me to the other key thing I would like to highlight: In the context of the above, I would like to note how Candace seems to react and explain to herself the behaviors of both Ben and that woman. Notice how she seems to explain it to herself by entertaining the idea that Ben and/or this woman were or are getting nervous and/or desperate and/or that they are "children" and/or "childish" in the sense that they "just don't know what they are doing" and/or "are not educated enough" or that they are "naive" or that they "were on drugs/alcohol". Unsurprisingly, the key thing Candace seems to be missing might in fact be that there are indeed pretty evil people out there who don't do any of those things for the reasons normal people like Candace and us would think they would do. And more specifically, that there are "Psychopaths" and/or similar "souless" people who do things like that for entirely different reasons, often being fully conscious of the lying and why they do it and/or perhaps often being willing total channels for evil acting through them.
- So naturally, what Candace tries to make sense of in the whole Kirk thing and other things she has woken up towards is probably not really "Israel", "Jews" the "CIA" or even any other monikers, but the machinations of "Psychopaths" and also normal people through which higher negative forces can and do work, namely 4D STS.
- I can't quite articulate and think it through at the moment, but the way Candace and many "of us normal people" try to make sense of some of the examples above-mentioned might be serious hindrances and even potential points of derailments in our attempt to understand reality. Candace is coming really close to key things here, I think, she just can't articulate and/or truly make sense of it and what it truly means.
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This was picked up by Jakegtv who can be found on Instagram. He dissects it a bit more. I’m not on Instagram so can’t view the whole commentary.
Yes I agree, I listened to that episode of Candace yesterday. Once the penny drops that psychopaths actually exist and that they operate in influenctusl circles the fog starts to clear. It’s the key piece that allows us to make sense of the world and allows us up construct coveys rent logical arguments to explain what we see. Political Ponerology would be an excellent addition to her book club.
On her show Charlie Kirk Was Being Tracked For Years. | Candace Ep 256, the one where Owens places the arrivals and departures of two "Egyptian government" private jets into and out of US civilian and military bases alongside Charlie Kirk's speaking schedule and/or TPUSA events, she notes that Pastor Rob McCoy was present in Nashville for a TPUSA event when a 'trans shooter' shot up a Christian elementary school, and adds that McCoy had also been pastor of Godspeak Calvary Chapel in Thousand Oaks, California, when a mass shooting took place there in 2018.
Two of the victims were apparently from among McCoy's congregation, according to this report, which also states that McCoy was then Mayor Pro Tempore of Thousand Oaks, which basically means he was on the 5-member council of this city of 125,000 people.
I just want to add that that Thousand Oaks atrocity, while it does appear to have gone down as reported - a mentally-unhinged military vet shooting up a bar and killing 12 random people, before taking his own life, 'just because' - always stood out for me because many folks who were patrons of this particular bar were survivors of the Route91 Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas a year previously:
Two of the victims were apparently from among McCoy's congregation, according to this report, which also states that McCoy was then Mayor Pro Tempore of Thousand Oaks, which basically means he was on the 5-member council of this city of 125,000 people.
I just want to add that that Thousand Oaks atrocity, while it does appear to have gone down as reported - a mentally-unhinged military vet shooting up a bar and killing 12 random people, before taking his own life, 'just because' - always stood out for me because many folks who were patrons of this particular bar were survivors of the Route91 Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas a year previously:
Here, Candace is looking at more dots, which are greatly focused on the network of Pastors (with military backgrounds).
Note Keri Smith, which is pretty pointed - guess we are all cluster B narcissist's cult members, according to Keri, for following.
00:00 - Start.
01:45 - Feds seize hospital footage after Charlie Kirk assassination.
04:24 - Feds meltdown have a meltdown and Jan 6 update.
11:18 - The Christian Zionist pastors connection.
28:07 - Christian Zionist reaction to our podcast going global.
29:43 - Accusation of faking texts.
32:53 - Allie Beth Stuckey on people asking questions.
36:53 - Grok crashes out.
38:19 - Mark Levin crashes out.
43:05 - Keri Smith calls me a cult leader.
52:16 - Comments.
Edit to Add:
Candace, on todays show, brings up the Egyptian planes saying that she will have a really big show on this on Wednesday.
Looking back to the video time marks (around 21:00), Owens also brought up how 40 people who had been at Las Vegas during the shoot-up there, had also been at Thousand Oaks - a reunion or something, with 13 of them being killed. The reference has to do with many Pastors' around that story in California. As you have above, Niall in Ep 256, Rob McCoy (Godspeak Calvary Chapel) comes up again as the new mayor of Thousand Oaks just after the shooting, and later resigned - going direct as the so-called co-co-founder of Turning Point USA.
Note Keri Smith, which is pretty pointed - guess we are all cluster B narcissist's cult members, according to Keri, for following.
00:00 - Start.
01:45 - Feds seize hospital footage after Charlie Kirk assassination.
04:24 - Feds meltdown have a meltdown and Jan 6 update.
11:18 - The Christian Zionist pastors connection.
28:07 - Christian Zionist reaction to our podcast going global.
29:43 - Accusation of faking texts.
32:53 - Allie Beth Stuckey on people asking questions.
36:53 - Grok crashes out.
38:19 - Mark Levin crashes out.
43:05 - Keri Smith calls me a cult leader.
52:16 - Comments.
Edit to Add:
Candace, on todays show, brings up the Egyptian planes saying that she will have a really big show on this on Wednesday.
Looking back to the video time marks (around 21:00), Owens also brought up how 40 people who had been at Las Vegas during the shoot-up there, had also been at Thousand Oaks - a reunion or something, with 13 of them being killed. The reference has to do with many Pastors' around that story in California. As you have above, Niall in Ep 256, Rob McCoy (Godspeak Calvary Chapel) comes up again as the new mayor of Thousand Oaks just after the shooting, and later resigned - going direct as the so-called co-co-founder of Turning Point USA.
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Also from that episode (#256), a commenter under the vid on YT writes:
It's one thing for Israeli 'contractors' to be clandestinely inserted into ongoing US-Egyptian military cooperation, for which there is of course lots of opportunity, but I couldn't square Arab countries' public denouncements of the Israeli regime's war crimes with the notion that their military cooperation with Israel is, in fact, so strong that not one but two expressly identifiable Egyptian government jets could be used by the Israelis to 'tail', and eventually assassinate, a high-profile political target inside the US.
However, as recently as 11 October 2025, we have this:
More fool me. "Behind the scenes," Israel has access to, and through, literally any entity, even one whose "unfriendly" government insignia is stamped on the side of the plane.
Yeah, we always have to remember that politicians around the world have more in common with each other than with the great unwashed. With the possible exception of Russia China and Iran. As George Carlin said, "it's a big club and you're not in it".
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