Chinese Spy balloon?
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Military shoots down object over Lake Huron
U.S. officials say the military shot down an unidentified object over Lake Huron and that the debris will be recovered. NBC News' Julie Tskirn reports on the incident and Rep. Elissa Slotkin's tweet that the Department of Defense informed her of the object.
www.msnbc.com
The tweet said:
The object has been downed by pilots from the US Air Force and National Guard. Great work by all who carried out this mission both in the air and back at headquarters. We’re all interested in exactly what this object was and it’s purpose.
Rep. Elissa Slotkin
@RepSlotkin
Just got a call from @DeptofDefense — our military has an extremely close eye on the object above Lake Huron. We’ll know more about what this was in the coming days, but for now, be assured that all parties have been laser-focused on it from the moment it traversed our waters.
Forget where I read it now, but Russia long ago stopped chasing and attempting to shoot down ufos because they were losing too many planes and pilots - either completely disappeared or crashes. So these stories that ufos are being shot down don't jive with past experience.
Inquorate
Jedi Master
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Short summation of what we discussed on the show today.
1. The US/Pentagon undoubtedly knew exactly what that first balloon was. They make them themselves and know they can be directed anywhere needed and kept there for a long time if necessary. They can carry multiple payloads.
See here:
www.politico.com
and here:
2. Almost identical balloons were seen over Japan and Taiwan (to name but two places) in 2020 and 2021.
Mysterious balloon-like object spotted above Sendai
Balloon-like object in Japanese sky sets Twitter afire with talk of UFOs, Godzilla
Look familiar? This is the balloon spotted over Japan in June 2020.
Locals called in to meteorological stations asking about them, and were told “it may be some kind of weather monitoring equipment" and the subject was dropped. No big deal.
The claims that 1 such balloon was sighted in the last couple of years during the Biden admin and 3 during the Trump admin are, therefore, probably true.
All of this raises the question of why the US decided to make a big deal of the one first spotted over the Aleutian Islands on the 28th Jan. and that was ultimately shot down off the coast of S. Carolina. The answer, IMO, is that a fuss was deliberately made in order condition and prepare the US population for war (likely a proxy version as in Ukraine) with China in the short to mid term (i.e. 1-2 years from now).
Note statements in the US media via "experts" about the balloon possibly carrying an "EMP" or other attack weapon. This is likely something that the US has already considered against China via its own balloons. It's also interesting as a possible future cover for a bolide having a similar effect.
Bottom line: the US has been violating China's (and many other countries) territory with these and other kinds of spying devices/tech for a LONG time. China and others complained, but ultimately accepted it as the way of the world. In addition, the US has in recent years been actively threatening and antagonizing China in the same way it has done so to Russia. For example, the US has imposed sanctions on China in an effort to deprive it of access to high end semiconductors. It has also been actively setting up what it calls an "alternative supply chain" for essential goods (military and civilian) that bypasses China. That is to say, the US has been making moves that signal that it is planning for China to be "taken out of the game" for a prolonged period of time.
So did China deliberately send a surveillance balloon into and across the USA last week? Maybe, or maybe not. What seems clear to me at this point is that the US had NO GOOD REASON to respond in the way it is. That is to say, the reason that it responded the way it did was for the purpose of further destroying US/China relations and to further prepare the US and 'Western' populations to see China as an aggressor nation in advance of the US provoking China into action over Taiwan, at which point it will be accused of being the aggressor. This is a very similar playbook to the one used against Russia vis a vis Ukraine.
All of that does not, of course, address the 3 or 4 'incidents' this weekend around other "objects" seen "flying" over the US and Canada. These are, apparently, NOT the same as the original (and best!) Chinese Surveillance Balloon
but rather much smaller and, perhaps, similar to weather balloons, EXCEPT for the statements of US AF pilots that suggest they MAY be something altogether more strange.
1. The US/Pentagon undoubtedly knew exactly what that first balloon was. They make them themselves and know they can be directed anywhere needed and kept there for a long time if necessary. They can carry multiple payloads.
See here:
U.S. military’s newest weapon against China and Russia: Hot air
The Pentagon is quietly transitioning high-altitude balloon projects to the military services.
www.politico.com
and here:
2. Almost identical balloons were seen over Japan and Taiwan (to name but two places) in 2020 and 2021.
Mysterious balloon-like object spotted above Sendai
Balloon-like object in Japanese sky sets Twitter afire with talk of UFOs, Godzilla
Look familiar? This is the balloon spotted over Japan in June 2020.
Locals called in to meteorological stations asking about them, and were told “it may be some kind of weather monitoring equipment" and the subject was dropped. No big deal.
The claims that 1 such balloon was sighted in the last couple of years during the Biden admin and 3 during the Trump admin are, therefore, probably true.
All of this raises the question of why the US decided to make a big deal of the one first spotted over the Aleutian Islands on the 28th Jan. and that was ultimately shot down off the coast of S. Carolina. The answer, IMO, is that a fuss was deliberately made in order condition and prepare the US population for war (likely a proxy version as in Ukraine) with China in the short to mid term (i.e. 1-2 years from now).
Note statements in the US media via "experts" about the balloon possibly carrying an "EMP" or other attack weapon. This is likely something that the US has already considered against China via its own balloons. It's also interesting as a possible future cover for a bolide having a similar effect.
Bottom line: the US has been violating China's (and many other countries) territory with these and other kinds of spying devices/tech for a LONG time. China and others complained, but ultimately accepted it as the way of the world. In addition, the US has in recent years been actively threatening and antagonizing China in the same way it has done so to Russia. For example, the US has imposed sanctions on China in an effort to deprive it of access to high end semiconductors. It has also been actively setting up what it calls an "alternative supply chain" for essential goods (military and civilian) that bypasses China. That is to say, the US has been making moves that signal that it is planning for China to be "taken out of the game" for a prolonged period of time.
So did China deliberately send a surveillance balloon into and across the USA last week? Maybe, or maybe not. What seems clear to me at this point is that the US had NO GOOD REASON to respond in the way it is. That is to say, the reason that it responded the way it did was for the purpose of further destroying US/China relations and to further prepare the US and 'Western' populations to see China as an aggressor nation in advance of the US provoking China into action over Taiwan, at which point it will be accused of being the aggressor. This is a very similar playbook to the one used against Russia vis a vis Ukraine.
All of that does not, of course, address the 3 or 4 'incidents' this weekend around other "objects" seen "flying" over the US and Canada. These are, apparently, NOT the same as the original (and best!) Chinese Surveillance Balloon
but rather much smaller and, perhaps, similar to weather balloons, EXCEPT for the statements of US AF pilots that suggest they MAY be something altogether more strange.
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Even we don't really need "conventional warfare" anymore when considering biological stuff, satellite-based pulses to create earthquakes and such, all sorts of HAARP-based mind control waves, and simply waging "proxy wars" by igniting parts of a country against itself, subjugating entire countries by economic and financial exploitation, and many other tactics. Aliens would have far more tools that make any conventional invasion completely unnecessary, especially against a race that is so much more ignorant and primitive. So any conventional weapons against "aliens" is like using a gun against bankruptcy. The only thing that can protect anyone in all of the above is knowledge.
One thing I noticed is that they always gotta have a crisis or boogey man, there hasn't been a time of more than a month or so of just "business as usual", and this has been true at least since 9/11. Al Qaeda, ISIS, Russia, Trump, Covid, etc. All the recent crises are winding down or no longer emotionally grabbing the population, so we're ripe for the next "situation" - whatever it may be. Might as well be escalation towards "aliens".
The C's did say Russians have anti-gravity tech now, so when they said those objects didn't have visible propulsion and aren't balloons, this came to mind. The whole thing is of course a manipulation for the public and as Joe said most likely serving multiple agendas, but I wondered if Russia is toying with the US establishment and showing off its new toys. It's possible that the reason the US just shot an unarmed ICBM into the pacific was as a response not to China about their balloon but to Russia about their anti-gravity pods, if that's what those were. So far they have been incredibly silent about what those things are, and they have the wreckage by now, so this might be one reason for it - as much as they'd love to rag on Russia, it would actually be embarrassing and inconvenient if Russia just showed them up with tech we don't have. They weren't so silent when speculating about the balloon.
Which could also mean that the next "thing" isn't aliens, it's going to be Russia (again/still), but they're looking for a way to be publicly outraged about it without also making themselves look weak and unprepared. Anyways just a thought.
What do you think about this? Not just the sightings, but these have occurred in between other atmospheric anomalies and the events in Turkey and Syria with the earthquakes.
In the last session, not only what was said by the C's but also in the comments after that session, it was speculated several times what the extraterrestrial intervention would look like, how they would present themselves. Could it be that we are seeing this?
Henchman 21
Jedi Master
I have a thought on all this UFO/balloon business and I certainly can’t say if this has any credence but I’ll throw the thought out there anyway.
I think it might be possible that the earth has fit into a higher EM profile or something due to either natural cosmic energy from the sun or from advancing closer to the time of transition to 4th density. This is likely a temporary “flap” causing what is really out there to become visible at varying locations. Governments are then doing the one thing they are good at which is muddying the water as much as possible with balloons and in some cases talk of actually shooting these things down, “talk” being the key word.
If this is correct or on the right track then nothing special is happening other than local governments obfuscating a temporary phenomenon via Chinese balloons or an incompetent alien invasion or for the conspiracy minded it is all secret government projects. My guess is that in such a scenario there isn’t much else they can do.
I think it might be possible that the earth has fit into a higher EM profile or something due to either natural cosmic energy from the sun or from advancing closer to the time of transition to 4th density. This is likely a temporary “flap” causing what is really out there to become visible at varying locations. Governments are then doing the one thing they are good at which is muddying the water as much as possible with balloons and in some cases talk of actually shooting these things down, “talk” being the key word.
If this is correct or on the right track then nothing special is happening other than local governments obfuscating a temporary phenomenon via Chinese balloons or an incompetent alien invasion or for the conspiracy minded it is all secret government projects. My guess is that in such a scenario there isn’t much else they can do.
tschai
Dagobah Resident
Yes, I agree- and remember the Cs mentioned the anti-gravity tech. Maybe the US is just annoyed that Russia won’t share! We will just shoot down the new toys- that will show them who’s boss! Will be interesting to see how all this plays out.
tschai
Dagobah Resident
Seriously- Godzilla!?? Now THAT would be something! Toss in Ghidhara and Gamora for extra laughs! Maybe Rodan and Mothra as well. Ultraman will save the day!Short summation of what we discussed on the show today.
1. The US/Pentagon undoubtedly knew exactly what that first balloon was. They make them themselves and know they can be directed anywhere needed and kept there for a long time if necessary. They can carry multiple payloads.
See here:
U.S. military’s newest weapon against China and Russia: Hot air
The Pentagon is quietly transitioning high-altitude balloon projects to the military services.
and here:
2. Almost identical balloons were seen over Japan and Taiwan (to name but two places) in 2020 and 2021.
Mysterious balloon-like object spotted above Sendai
Balloon-like object in Japanese sky sets Twitter afire with talk of UFOs, Godzilla
Look familiar? This is the balloon spotted over Japan in June 2020.
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Locals called in to meteorological stations asking about them, and were told “it may be some kind of weather monitoring equipment" and the subject was dropped. No big deal.
The claims that 1 such balloon was sighted in the last couple of years during the Biden admin and 3 during the Trump admin are, therefore, probably true.
All of this raises the question of why the US decided to make a big deal of the one first spotted over the Aleutian Islands on the 28th Jan. and that was ultimately shot down off the coast of S. Carolina. The answer, IMO, is that a fuss was deliberately made in order condition and prepare the US population for war (likely a proxy version as in Ukraine) with China in the short to mid term (i.e. 1-2 years from now).
Note statements in the US media via "experts" about the balloon possibly carrying an "EMP" or other attack weapon. This is likely something that the US has already considered against China via its own balloons. It's also interesting as a possible future cover for a bolide having a similar effect.
Bottom line: the US has been violating China's (and many other countries) territory with these and other kinds of spying devices/tech for a LONG time. China and others complained, but ultimately accepted it as the way of the world. In addition, the US has in recent years been actively threatening and antagonizing China in the same way it has done so to Russia. For example, the US has imposed sanctions on China in an effort to deprive it of access to high end semiconductors. It has also been actively setting up what it calls an "alternative supply chain" for essential goods (military and civilian) that bypasses China. That is to say, the US has been making moves that signal that it is planning for China to be "taken out of the game" for a prolonged period of time.
So did China deliberately send a surveillance balloon into and across the USA last week? Maybe, or maybe not. What seems clear to me at this point is that the US had NO GOOD REASON to respond in the way it is. That is to say, the reason that it responded the way it did was for the purpose of further destroying US/China relations and to further prepare the US and 'Western' populations to see China as an aggressor nation in advance of the US provoking China into action over Taiwan, at which point it will be accused of being the aggressor. This is a very similar playbook to the one used against Russia vis a vis Ukraine.
All of that does not, of course, address the 3 or 4 'incidents' this weekend around other "objects" seen "flying" over the US and Canada. These are, apparently, NOT the same as the original (and best!) Chinese Surveillance Balloon
Maybe like a forest fire, you just have to let the dry brush burn out.
Edit: The Narrative will kick in soon enough it seems.
