Chronic Epstein-Barr Virus

[cassandra]

I'm feeling a little overwhelmed by all the information here. I've been going from thread to thread like a headless chicken .

I was diagnosed at the end of July last year. I have made a lot of changes and I feel better, but I know I still have a journey ahead of me.

Here's what I have been taking daily:

-Vitamin C 6-9g but I should take them 4 hrs separately from other supplements?
-Magnesium Citrate 2 tbsp ( 5 hrs apart), but my brand can't deliver tight now, so I'm running out
-Omega 3 Zinzino Balance Oil
-Jarrow-B-Right Vitamin B complex
-L-Lysine plus (Nutri balance)
-Selenium from mustard-seed (not great probably)
-Vitamin D3 + K2 MK7 5000 IE + 200 ug I think it contains sunflower oil
- Vitamaze Calcium 800,00 mg
-1tsp milkthistle
-Glutamine Plus containing:
niacin 2.4 mg
Vitamin B6 0.2 mg
Vitamin B12 0.6 ug
L-Glutamine 2.994.3 mg
and probiotics
Omnibiotic 6 probiotics

I don't take any sodium bicarbonate, because I get dizzy sometimes.
I keep fit, am being fairly strict with my diet, which is mainly meat, bone broth, some low-carb vegetables and salad, eggs. I often take apple cider vinegar in water.

I keep quite fit on my trampoline, which is highly recommended for clearing out the lymphatic system. Also I lost a lot of weight and the exercise really helped me build up muscle tone again and release anger or frustration! I've also recently started EE to great effect.

I'm planning on taking Melatonin and Lugol's, but I'm not sure where to buy them or how much to take. I still get tired and have to lie down during the afternoon, but I don't think I'm at death's door quite yet. I still look healthy and quite fit.

Any other advice?


I'm seeing a naturopath; she's a vegetarian and is a pro-vaxer, but she has been much better than any normal doctor.

I am going to make a donation next month; your medical advice is priceless and so I owe you, and will pay as much as I can afford. I will also be starting to transcribe or proofread starting Monday, so will give back and share a little that way too.

Thank you

 

[Gwenllian]

I am afraid I don't have any medical advice...

I am going to make a donation next month; your medical advice is priceless and so I owe you, and will pay as much as I can afford. I will also be starting to transcribe or proofread starting Monday, so will give back and share a little that way too.

That's wonderful, thank you! We have some very experienced transcribers and proofreaders, so if there is anything you don't know, you can always ask.

 

[cassandra]

I am afraid I don't have any medical advice...

No worries, have received my email from Gandalf and will write my intro on Sunday and get started on Monday.

That's wonderful, thank you! We have some very experienced transcribers and proofreaders, so if there is anything you don't know, you can always ask.

Excellent!

 

[Drea]

Cassandra when I hear EBV I automatically think Lyme. Have you ruled this out? You might want to investigate what Lyme does to the body and how EBV is frequently a co-infection. Most sufferers never had a tick bite. Check out this questionnaire and see how you score. Is It Lyme Disease?

Aside from that you may want to look into getting started on the iodine protocol.

 

[broken.english]

As for Lugols in Germany, a reliable supplier for me has been S3 Chemicals. Website _S3 Chemicals

Sales of Lugols 5% are restricted now for end users. S3 therefore offer 4.9%. Current price is 47.99€/l + 5.90€ for shipping.

They also have magnesium citrate but unfortunately it is hydrogene citrate which is sour. I prefer the pure version, Magnesiumcitrat reinst., which I got from subolab.de. I am not sure if they still have it. My last purchase was about three years ago.

 

[cassandra]

I don't think it's Lyme Disease. I think I inherited it from my mother.

I've had tonsilitis episodes throughout my life, none of the tingling or flushes, fevers, normally problems with my throat, was always very slim until the last few years, but have lost it all due to dieting.

Got tonsillitis during onset of puberty, stress, after giving birth, onset of menopause, only since then have I experienced chills and flashes. Stress really sets it off and I very rarely experience symptoms of colds or flu, even if every one around me is ill. Always had regular, but painful periods. Childbirth was a horror. Always has problems with my knees and back (since puberty). Always had problems falling asleep since puberty.

Since dieting my legs felt bruised from the inside and very weak, but now much better, my skin is clear, but I am still forgetful. My anxiety has lessened.

 

[cassandra]

As for Lugols in Germany, a reliable supplier for me has been S3 Chemicals. Website _S3 Chemicals

Sales of Lugols 5% are restricted now for end users. S3 therefore offer 4.9%. Current price is 47.99€/l + 5.90€ for shipping.

They also have magnesium citrate but unfortunately it is hydrogene citrate which is sour. I prefer the pure version, Magnesiumcitrat reinst., which I got from subolab.de. I am not sure if they still have it. My last purchase was about three years ago.

Oh wonderful, will look this up, thank you!

 

[zak]

There is this recent thread Need some help with health issues, some similarities with your case, where you can find advices of members and some can suit to your situation.
and this following article:

Can Viruses Form Biofilms?

There has been a lot of recent research about bacteria’s ability to form protective biofilm shields and cysts. Seeing how and why bacteria forms these colonies, it seems very sensible that chronic virus diseases may also take advantage of biofilm protection.

However, the virus/biofilm connection have not been very well researched yet. One difficulty is that this type of virus research usually requires an electron microscope that many facilities can’t afford. Another is simply that biofilms are a relatively new area of research and interest hasn’t focused on the virus aspect yet.

In spite of this, there are clinical indications that it is worth considering a biofilm connection with viral illnesses. Any chronic viral condition, such as HIV, Herpes (Shingles), and Hepatitis, are worth considering. Even the possibility of virus being protected by a bacterial biofilm by default is worth being aware of.

Clinical Studies
The most often referred to study is one by researchers at the Institut Pasteur and CNRS. It showed, for the first time, that certain viruses appear to be capable of forming complex biofilm-like assemblies – similar to bacterial biofilms! These extracellular biofilm structures may protect viruses from the immune system and enable them to spread efficiently from cell to cell.(1)

They maintain that “viral biofilms” would appear to be a major mechanism of propagation for certain viruses. Virus biofilms are therefore emerging as new and particularly attractive therapeutic targets.

The HTLV-1 virus (human T-cell leukemia virus type 1) was the first human retrovirus to be isolated. It infects 15 to 20 million people worldwide and causes various diseases, ranging from adult T-cell leukemia/lymphoma to forms of neuromyelopathy (tropical spastic paraparesis) or other chronic inflammatory syndromes, such as infectious dermatitis, uveitis and myositis.

The recent finding that the human T-cell leukemia virus type 1 (HTLV-1) encases itself in a carbohydrate-rich adhesive extracellular “cocoon” (a type of biofilm). This enables its efficient and protected transfer between cells and unveiled a new infectious entity and a novel mechanism of viral transmission.

These HTLV-1 structures are observed at the surface of T cells from HTLV-1-infected patients and are said to be reminiscent of bacterial biofilms. In fact, it is proposed that, similar to bacterial biofilms, viral biofilms could represent “viral communities”. These have enhanced infectious capacity and improved spread compared with ‘free’ viral particles, and might constitute a key reservoir for chronic infections according to findings chronicled in Trends in Microbiology.(2)

Herpes Epstein-Barr
An example of viral biofilm possibilities also happened when Dr. Jose Montoya, an infectious disease specialist at Stanford University, released preliminary findings. They were a double-blind placebo-controlled antiviral trial of Valcyte for a subset of patients displaying high antibody levels to human Herpes Epstein-Barr HHV-6 and EBV virus.

Another study suggests that chronic HHV-6 infections can create a special protein that is commonly found in the brains of those with CFS but not in those that are healthy. This protein may contribute to the brain fog often seen in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

“Causes of many chronic diseases are unknown and
chronic viral infection is one of the most suspected candidates!”

This, from Dr. Kondo, who spent 20 years trying to identify the latent protein responsible for chronic CNS disease and mood disorders. Healthy patients showed no evidence of this protein. HHV-6 and/or Epstein Barr Virus can cause Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and treating biofilms may be part of the answer.(3)

HHV-6 is a virus that attacks the brain. Although most people carry this virus in their body in a latent status. What most do not know that is that it is like a grenade waiting to go “Rambo” at a given chance. This virus “reactivates” which means that when a human is hit with a bacteria, gets a severe flu, catches a pathogen in some third world country or undergoes a physical injury/trauma, the grenade pin might get pulled. The human body is then weakened just enough for this virus to start replicating.

We have scientific proof linking HHV-6A to these diseases. This does not mean this virus is the sole cause of the diseases, but it does mean is that the patient has a better chance at recovery by treating the HHV-6 virus and getting it lowered to within an acceptable range.

The Virus / Biofilm 2nd Connection
There is another way a virus might use a biofilm as protection. The HHV-6 virus loves to hang out with the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV) as well as a bacteria called Mycoplasma. It appears that, if a virus doesn’t actually make a biofilm, it at least likes move under the protection of a bacterial biofilm! This would help protect it from both the immune system, drugs – and monolaurin!

In fact, there might be two motivations for a virus to be attracted to a bacterial biofilm. It not only offers protection but viruses will also eat bacteria. This might like having lunch with a bodyguard!

The mechanism underlying the inhibition of biofilms by GV is unknown. However, according to Tirwomwe et al., in addition to host immune status, candida might be one example of this symbiosis of biofilms and viruses.(4) Candida biofilms, of course, are resistant to commonly used antifungals. This can provide a protective hiding place for something like HIV and is believed to be a key determinant of this disease according to an article in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents.
(...)
Heavy Metal Detox
Keep in mind that a biofilm uses heavy metals and has toxins in it. We need to dissolve the biofilms in order to kill the viruses. However, that also releases those toxins into the body. The liver normally filters out those toxins. However, ill effects (flu-like symptoms or hurting joints) may shortly follow the taking of biofilm enzymes.

If so, it is an indication that there are a lot of toxins in the biofilms being released. This is a good sign that the biofilms are being dissolved – but the Liver may need some help getting rid of them. If the ill effects are too strong, our Heavy Metal Detox formula will help capture the toxins, neutralize them and make it easier for the liver to eliminate them. This will greatly help reduce the ill effects.

Virus Biofilms | Putting the Pieces Together

Three Methods for Overcoming a Run-away Epstein-Barr Viral Infection
7 Natural Agents That Disrupt Biofilms - DrJockers.com


Also you can make your own research here : Diet and Health

 

[cassandra]

Thank you so much. That looks extremely helpful. I'm firing my naturopath!! Nice girl, but she definitely has not really helped me. I will look into those useful links, Zak!

I've also been looking through the Thiamine thread. Brilliant! Can anyone recommend a good brand that I can purchase from Germany?

I've been looking at Lugol's 5% on ebay, the only one available costs €9,99. Seems a bit too good to be true, but the seller has a good reputation.

Anyway, I'm starting to see a light at the end of the twisting, turning tunnel, so...

 

[broken.english]

I've been looking at Lugol's 5% on ebay, the only one available costs €9,99. Seems a bit too good to be true, but the seller has a good reputation.

You will get more results if you enter "Lugolsche Lösung" only or just "Lugol".

€10 is about the price for 100 ml. Nothing special about it.