Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia

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Great piece from General Flynn on Ukraine:

This is the worrying part:


Biden Might Get Hundreds of Millions Killed Over Ukraine - General Flynn
By: Michael T Flynn A remarkable failure of meaningful reporting about the massive military buildup in and around Ukraine in recent weeks results in most Americans…'
www.generalflynn.com

'Responding to the buildup, a Russian official explained in a Tass article: "We are alarmed by reports some member-countries of NATO have stepped up the deployment of lethal weapons and military personnel to Ukraine."'

NATO, including the US and Canada, has been deploying military forces to Ukraine for quite a while already. I challenge anyone to find a single mention of this in the Western media. But the Russians aren't stupid. They can see all this activity just on the other side of their border. I think they still have the most advanced anti-aircraft radar in the world. So they deploy accordingly. And then watch as the West screams that Russia is 'preparing to invade.'

It would be utterly pathetic if it wasn't so dangerous.


Biden Might Get Hundreds of Millions Killed Over Ukraine - General Flynn
By: Michael T Flynn A remarkable failure of meaningful reporting about the massive military buildup in and around Ukraine in recent weeks results in most Americans…'
www.generalflynn.com


 
'The only "path to de-escalation" is to certify Nord Stream 2.'

24 Jan, 2022

'Money laundering is in full swing.'

24 Jan, 2022

'Coordinating the false narratives?'

8 hours ago
 
Richard North has written books on the failure of American Dept of Defence and the military brass especially with equipment. Has studied the satellite images and pictures in the western media, where most ‘reporters’ couldn’t tell a tank from an armoured vehicle if it was in front of them. He points out several inconsistencies in the narrative. Also there is a river that would have to be crossed by Russian forces which would create a target for enemy fire, so a ground incursion may not be the invasion the warhawks want. Putin has to make a move before March, if he’s going to, because once the weather warms up a bit, the rain will make any ground manoeuvres more difficult. I think targeted air strikes are much more likely.
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There is no record of whether she has been asked – presumably via an intermediary – but it is self-evident that the Queen has declined any request to die suddenly in order to get Johnson off the hook.

Therefore, it seems that the prime minister has had to rely on Plan B (Mk II), which has his friends and allies ramping up the tension on Ukraine with courtier-in-chief, Charlie Moore, leading the way.

In today’s edition of the fanboy mag, he asserts that: “As Russia poses a grave threat to European security, our MPs sound ever more ridiculous”, his formication-inducing sub-heading reading: “Grand-standing speeches about No 10 ‘parties’ are absurdly out of proportion when Britain faces a truly dangerous situation in Ukraine”.

Largely, of course, Ukraine need not be our business. Following Brexit, we could have disowned the expansionist ambitions of the European Union and the Nato link did not have to trouble us. But, despite that, we’ve donated a batch of anti-tank missiles to the cause, and despatched troops to act as trainers.

That, essentially, means we have a dog in the fight and, for the moment, that is good enough. But for Ukraine to keep distracting attention from Johnson’s other little issues, Putin must keep up the tension. Either that, or the tanks will have to roll.

The likelihood of multiple V-84MS engines kicking into life is one that is exercising the minds of multiple pundits and yet it is not possible to come to a definitive conclusion. There is probably only one man in this world who really knows what’s in Putin’s mind, and he ain’t saying.

That does not stop the pundits second-guessing his intentions, but they have multiple problems. In order to make a reasonable estimation of possibilities, one must have some idea of Putin’s strategic intentions. Could he be planning the invasion and subjugation of the entire country, or does he intend merely a limited incursion, either to hold ground or to send Kiev a message?

To be fair to him, the Guardian’s defence editor, Dan Sabbagh, is ruling out a full invasion. He cites Fred Kagan, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, who suggests that the Russians would need an occupation force in the order of 325,000 personnel, as opposed to the 100,000-plus estimated to be in position.

However, a punitive raid – possibly with the aim of degrading the Ukrainian military capability and destabilising the government – would require a different force mix, and considerably fewer troops. And it is here that one might be able to make some informed guesses as to Putin’s intentions.

For instance, looking at the previous Russian incursions into Ukraine – and especially the Crimea – what was notable was the reliance on elite forces to spearhead the military action. In particular, we saw widespread use of airborne troop formations, and their characteristic BMD-2 armoured vehicles.

The use of elite forces in the vanguard is not necessarily a preferred Russian tactic. In Cold War days, it is assumed that an armoured assault on the West would have been led by second-tier formations with obsolete or near-obsolete tanks, deployed in large numbers to soak up the opposing forces. Elite formations would be held in reserve to exploit the break-though.

As such, what we are seeing of the current Russian force-mix is perplexing, although we have to bear in mind that we are seeing what the Russians want us to see, which may not reflect the composition of the forces actually deployed, if active operations commence.

So far, for instance, I have not seen any evidence of elite forces in position around the Ukrainian border – although it is thought that a Guards Air Assault Regiment is now in place in south eastern Crimea. This may take an active role in any military incursion.

But, as to the heavy armour, most of the pictures I have seen have shown geriatric T-80 tanks, a type which was to be phased out of service until a decision was made to expand the Russian tank force, whence mothballed vehicles were brought back into use.

These tanks are likely to be allocated to second-tier units, while the elite formations will be equipped with substantially modernised and upgraded T-72B3s, and the less numerous but potent T-90Ms, which only started to be introduced in 2019.

Similarly, in terms of the all-important infantry carriers, while we have seen some well-publicised videos of BMP-3s being unloaded – the latest, modernised version of the mechanised infantry combat vehicle – we have also recently seen convoys of BTR-80s (pictured), the eight-wheeled armoured personnel carrier which also tends to be issued to second-tier and peacekeeping forces.

With the media using lots of generic shots of Russian vehicles though, it is difficult to assess what precisely has been deployed. But the other interesting thing is what we have not seen – the dog, or dogs in this case, that didn’t bark.

Here, the important thing in Russian doctrine – carried over from Soviet days – is that tank columns are usually supplied from the air, using the giant Mi-26 transport helicopters. In particular, they position huge fuel bladders at forward locations, to keep the tanks on the move.

This is particularly necessary if gas-guzzling T-80s are being deployed. These, in common with the US M-1 Abrams tanks, are powered by gas turbine engines. Both types have reputations for profligate fuel consumption and this was one of the reasons why the T-80 was being phased out.

Yet, none of the shots I’ve seen so far have shown any sign of these Mi-26s, and none of the satellite pictures that have recently been published show helicopter pads and the type of fuel depots which would be essential for an armoured thrust into Ukraine.

This is where I have difficulty with a lot of the punditry, such as the analysis here in the Telegraph and here on the BBC website. There is much emphasis on numbers of troops and equipment, and quantitative comparisons with Ukrainian forces, but very little in the way of qualitative assessment, and virtually no discussion on force mix, equipment capabilities or units deployed.

Of course, it suits some, like Nato’s secretary general, and elements of the US military, to talk up the threat. The great bogyman of a Russian invasion never did defence budgets any harm. And while, according to the BBC, the US is claiming knowledge of Russian plans to boost its forces near Ukraine “on very short notice”, we have been offered no detail.

And yet, the Telegraph correspondent thinks that an attack is “looking more and more likely”. This is Roland Oliphant, their senior foreign correspondent who says that, from looking at the troop movements, “it seems like everything is there for a genuine invasion”. They’ve moved up not just the fighting troops but the logistics, the field hospitals, and the follow-on troops, he says, “which is why the United States and British governments amongst others are agitated. It looks genuine”.

But, from what I’ve seen – which is very limited – I beg to differ. For what it is worth, I don’t think that the force mix and the equipment deployed constitutes a balanced invasion force, capable of deep penetration or sustained operations in enemy territory.

Nevertheless, there is that huge caveat here – we are only being allowed to see what the Russians want us to see, by an army where maskirovka (deception) is a core part of military doctrine.

But, when most media correspondents have difficulty telling the difference between a tank and an MICV, and tend to rely on the generic “armoured vehicle” when describing what they see, the Western press is easily deceived. As for the military, they tend to see what they want to see. Their track records on accurate threat assessment are not good.

One thing is for sure though – correctly noted by the Telegraph – this can’t last indefinitely. Putin has a narrow window, when the winter freeze (which came late this year) allows mass military incursions. Once the spring thaw comes, movement on any scale will be impossible until late May/June. He has to move before March, or not at all.

If I was forced to guess (but only if forced), I would say “not at all”.
 
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The "Powers That Be" must be thinking, "When are those Russians finally going to bite and start fighting. We've been standing here for days waiting for a Russian cyberattack to take the world economy down'" - It seems pretty clear to me who Klausie wants to blame for this. As long as the Russians are not attacking, this story is not plausible.
 
A strange undated, unverified video just surfaced on Twitter, taken from Telegram, alleging to be of 'deputy' Serhiy Dmytrovych Prytula in Ukraine's parliament having some kind of fit/spasm (drug induced?).

According to wiki Pritula/Prytula has been in politics but it doesn't list him as a 'deputy' as per the claim below, otherwise he's known for his TV work.

Although the footage is blurry, it does look like it could be Pritula (head shot below), and the red seating and alcove do look like Ukrainian parliament (also pictured below).

If it is what it claims to be, what's going on? And who was filming and shared the footage?

According to another translated tweet:

Ukraine 01.25.2022 TV presenter and Verkhona Rada (Ukrainian parliament) politician Sergey Pritula has been caught collapsing. The politician was hastily removed from parliament. His actions matched the actions of users of the synthetic drug Mephedrone (zombie drug).

The video was posted with the following comment (translated with DeepL):
'Something strange is going on in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. The deputy from "Golos" party Sergey Pritula apparently can't "stand" the heavy burden of being a deputy

"Great deputy after a hard day for the glory of Ukrainian Ukraine. Very honest Vladimir Alexandrovich. The best people of the country are burning at work," wrote users in the Ukrainian segment of the Internet.

The video of the incident spread in social networks.'






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Well, there are more important things going on, but it could be a sign of the deteriorating situation in Ukraine.
 

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The "Powers That Be" must be thinking, "When are those Russians finally going to bite and start fighting. We've been standing here for days waiting for a Russian cyberattack to take the world economy down'" - It seems pretty clear to me who Klausie wants to blame for this. As long as the Russians are not attacking, this story is not plausible.

The other scenario, which I think is much more plausible, is that the PTB are moving all their operational pieces into place to respond to (1) a 'Russian' cyberattack or (2) a 'Russian' chemical weapons attack on Ukraine... these being CIA/MI6 operations targeting Ukrainians, then packaged as 'Russian' for the world stage.

We can surmise that the Anglosphere governments (plus NATO and Israel) will respond with customary 'shock' and 'outrage' and calls for 'waging peace' against the Russians. We'll see what China and Iran have to say about that.

It would be easy for the West to lay the blame for a wrecked global economy on Russia, too. It makes no sense, of course, but once you've found a scapegoat...

Another more esoteric point that comes to mind which has to do with national Soul karma. Ukraine saw millions die under Stalin. Now their nation may be host to something like WWIII. Perhaps - perhaps not. But if it does turn out that way, I remember a quote from the C's - 'there are no nations, only Souls'. What does this mean for Ukraine as a national Soul, if they are to host yet another horrific tragedy? Why them? Bad luck? Karma? Violation of their Free Will? A combo of all of these?
 
Action reaction. The US is thinking it holds all the cards. But Putin hasn't even started playing yet.

In the meantime, the Russians have also been sending 'humanitarian aid' to Cuba. It could just be what they say it is - medical equipment - but you never know!

Moscow has delivered more than 24 tonnes of humanitarian cargo to Havana on Monday evening... In December 2021 and in mid-January of this year, Moscow has already supplied similar cargoes to Havana.
 
A strange undated, unverified video just surfaced on Twitter, taken from Telegram, alleging to be of 'deputy' Serhiy Dmytrovych Prytula in Ukraine's parliament having some kind of fit/spasm (drug induced?).

According to wiki Pritula/Prytula has been in politics but it doesn't list him as a 'deputy' as per the claim below, otherwise he's known for his TV work.

Although the footage is blurry, it does look like it could be Pritula (head shot below), and the red seating and alcove do look like Ukrainian parliament (also pictured below).

If it is what it claims to be, what's going on? And who was filming and shared the footage?

According to another translated tweet:



The video was posted with the following comment (translated with DeepL):



Well, there are more important things going on, but it could be a sign of the deteriorating situation in Ukraine.

Weird!

Back in DC, Pelosi and pals want to dump another $500 million of weapons into the 'war effort'. If the 'Defending Ukraine Sovereignty Act of 2022' bill passes next week, Ukraine will become the third-highest recipient of US military aid, behind Israel and Egypt.

Croatian President Zoran Milanovic says he will order Croatian forces to withdraw from NATO positions in Eastern Europe if things escalate further. So much for NATO unity. He says:

"This has nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia, it has to do with the dynamics of American domestic politics, [US President] Joe Biden and his administration, which I supported."

There's nothing like a war to help re-inflate deflated poll numbers!

The Russian Senate is warning what we've been warning about recently: if the US and UK manage to boot Russia out of SWIFT, gas, oil and metals would cease flowing from Russia (to the West anyway), leaving Europe in deep sh*t.

The Ukies, meanwhile, are on edge. Goons guarding a government building today fired warning shots to ward off anti-corruption activists, mistaking them for 'attackers'.

The only sign of Russian military maneuvers today were in the Indian Ocean, where Russia and China are conducting joint naval drills in the sunny southern seas...

 
The below is a bit of typical Canadian rhetoric from the UCC (well embedded in Canadian politics) with some Minister (and Senators) front and back bench clapping (and letter writing):


The article, with a couple of video talk links below (if not going straight into the article itself):


The Canadian WEF PM offering up (cough) a number of, er, get tough on the Russians options - let's see, 120 million (maybe), sniper rifles, ammunition, small fire arms (maybe), oh, sanctions, they work, he said.

Apparently now, Justin mentioned they are going into a retreat huddle to mull it all over, so one might guess he will have to discuss it with Freeland, and then get back to the questions at hand in some type of press release (late Wednesday he said). This is all around the time the convoys of truckers should begin to enter Ottawa in protest, which, won't be reported upon, no doubt.



For those outside Canada (probably some within), here is a little reminder of a historical problem with Ukraine:

 
Croatian President Zoran Milanovic says he will order Croatian forces to withdraw from NATO positions in Eastern Europe if things escalate further
Just to point out that that wasn´t said out of the blue; a weak ago, the arrogant spineless AH, also known as prime minister of Croatia, A. Plenkovic, declared that "Croatia will respond "Clearly and Resolutely" if Russia attacks Ukraine" - basically c/p the words of his overlords.

I almost choked when I´ve read that.

Journalists, of course, asked the president for his opinion on that statement and he said what was already stated above.

After that, Plenkovic apologized to Ukraine.

The Prime minister and the president are "at war" with each other for quite some time now.
If the president´s words would have any effect, it would be already seen in a government´s response to "the pandemic", where is clear (on the outside at least) that the president and the prime minister have different opinions on the whole thing.

Note that the president is a chief captain of the cro. army but overall - he can´t do much...

But good for him that at least he speaks up.


The level of corruption in Croatia is pretty obvious, starting with the leading party being the most corrupted party, like, ever in Croatia; in Oct 2021 the party was (surprisingly) convicted of corruption by the court. Imagine the scale of the corruption that even corrupted courts couldn't go around it...

Note as well, that in December 2021, Prime Ministers of Ukraine and Croatia met to discuss, among other things, "how to fight corruption". And note that Plenkovic's party seems to always win by decisive votes from the diaspora. It´s laughable....
 
I watched an extrait of speech from K. Schwab on Telegram and this picked my attention. Where to post it because it'a about Poutin !? I did not want to open a new thread for this information, so I post it here.
It's from one conference in 2017 visibly, Schwab mentions the young leaders, and he cites a series of names and among them Poutin !?
Here's the link, with french sub-titles, the clip can be watched from the browser (ie: no need of telegram)


Some commentators of this post also raised the question about Poutin being listed, thus, i was not the lone to "tickle" about this information. At least, i posted it here, maybe this was posted somewhere else in the forum and maybe discussed already (for those who follow more closely all threads related to russia ?), in this case sorry about re-posting.
 
A strange undated, unverified video just surfaced on Twitter, taken from Telegram, alleging to be of 'deputy' Serhiy Dmytrovych Prytula in Ukraine's parliament having some kind of fit/spasm (drug induced?).

According to wiki Pritula/Prytula has been in politics but it doesn't list him as a 'deputy' as per the claim below, otherwise he's known for his TV work.

Although the footage is blurry, it does look like it could be Pritula (head shot below), and the red seating and alcove do look like Ukrainian parliament (also pictured below).

If it is what it claims to be, what's going on? And who was filming and shared the footage?

According to another translated tweet:



The video was posted with the following comment (translated with DeepL):



Well, there are more important things going on, but it could be a sign of the deteriorating situation in Ukraine.

The video is pretty weird. There can be medical conditons that cause those but he is clearly trying to hide it.

On the fringe side it could be: a possesion having a hard time adapting to the body or a kind of android glitching hard.
 
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