domwatts23 said:Can you guys tell me what you are all using the colloidal silver for? All kinds of different things or is there one main use? I've heard awesome things about it.
Rabelais said:hithere said:Thank you for your time and knowledge Rabelais, it is appreciated and sorely needed! :)
You're welcome. I might add that silver ions have their place in medicine. Dr. Robert O. Becker has done some amazing things with them. It's just that they are not the optimal format for orally ingested internal use.
I would like to make CSW in my home..
I will buy silver wires 9999 from ebay. But ı confused regarding current?*
What is the best current for this??
SummerLite said:I have read material explaining that the term "colloidal silver" can only be made in a lab and is far more affective then the "ionic silver" which is all you can make at home.
I've gone to the lifesilver website that may be able to answer these questions but its down for an update at the moment. Maybe some answers for me there. I just wonder at the practical application of making ones own ionic silver for use other then in emergencies when nothing else is available.
Session Date: September 3rd 2008
Q: (D) Would the nanosilver solutions help the inflammation?
Q: (DD) (inaudible) Along those lines, I began giving the silver to my dog beginning yesterday after a hiatus... Will that help her inflammation and yet not cause her digestive problems?
A: Lower the dose slightly and give probiotics. But remember you can only do so much. She is looking forward to graduation and you should not hold her back too tightly.
Q: (DD) Okay, good. I lowered the dose to 1.5 CCs this time, is that still too high?
A: Should be OK.
Q: (DD) Well, that makes me feel better. (G) I wanted to ask about vitamin D supplements. Is it harmful to those infected with L bacteria?
Q: (DD) Silver should take care of that bacterial infection.
A: Partly, but here the problem is not enough of the right bacteria.
Q: (DD) Probiotic supplementation.
Q: (A***) Are the probiotics good for me too?
Q: (discussion of probiotics and using them along with any antibiotic). (DD) The silver I've got... this BioPharma in India can't understand why this particular type of silver does not disrupt probiotics because every single colloidal silver experimentation that they've been doing, they had to supplement, and nobody knows why this process that makes this silver doesn't affect probiotics. That's something that they're undertaking a study on now. Because ionic silver will kill the probiotics... (A***) I wanna ask, do I have a problem with this bacteria as well?
Q: (A***) If so, is lying in the sun bad for me because of the vitamin D it produces?
Q: (A***) Sun is bad? Just a little bit of sun?!
A: Not direct.
Q: (A***) Whatever!! (laughter) Is that the reason I'm getting these white spots?
A: Fungal overgrowth.
Q: (DD) Quick question about the probiotic thing. Why is that this elemental colloidal silver doesn't disrupt intestinal bacteria?
A: Does not bind in the same way due to "shape".
Q: (DD) Yeah, well, we saw these TDM photographs that showed the shape, but it doesn't have anything to do with the negative particle charge as opposed to the positive charge of ionic silver? Does the positive particle charge, as opposed to the negative particle charge of ionic silver, have some effect that spares the probiotics?
A: Has some effect, but the main issue is the shape which does not fit the same binding site.
Q: (DD) Hmm. That's interesting.
DR. GORDON PEDERSEN: The latest and greatest is we’ve discovered that an alkaline silver is very beneficial to wellness. What that means is we now have silver that’s ph-balanced in an alkaline form. All the other silvers are acids. Acids that you put in your body on a regular basis are great to kill, but if you’re going to take a silver every single day, which I advise, you’re gonna want an alkaline silver. So that’s the newest, the latest, the greatest.
And then we have some energetic systems. Silver transfers energy better than any of the other minerals. For that reason, we can actually put a code, or we can actually energize silver in a way that not only is it alkaline, not only can it destroy bacteria, viruses, mold, yeast, and parasites, we can also do it in a way that’s alkaline for wellness and carries a frequency for wellness as well.
So that’s what’s new: alkaline, wellness, and a frequency of daily use for your body’s wellness.
MERCEDES: Now, is there any proof out there that gives a justification that it’s better than old silvers?
DR. GORDON PEDERSEN: Well the old silver is terrific. I’ve written books and done many many documentaries, I’ve done paper after paper, from influenza to vaginal infections it’s a terrific product. Why is it just a little better now? Well it’s a little better now because it’s alkaline and the alkalinity is better for wellness.
We recognize that alkaline systems don’t allow most pathogens to even start to grow. So we’re putting an alkaline system to work and we’re doing it in a way that the body can use it.
And we tested it in the lab, the very same labs we tested all the other silver in did the tests for us. And we found that a 1.4 log reduction, better killing rate. What does 1.4 log reduction mean? Well that’s a logarithmic scale that says about 1.4 million cells were killed better using the new alkaline silver than in the other cells.
So if you want to kill faster, more completely better, with an alkaline wellness system that is proven in the lab just in the same place that we proved the other. That’s why I’m promoting the new pH-balanced, alkaline-structured silver, as opposed to the old – which is still terrific, which is still wonderful – but don’t you want the very best? And with the philosophy change, I’m not putting an acid into my body, I’m actually putting alkaline in my body. It’s working with my body instead of just going through there like chemotherapy and destroying stuff. We now have a wellness system that’s for everyday.
Synthesis of Silver Nanoparticles by Leaf Extract
Biogenic Synthesis of Silver Nanoparticles
Biological Nanoparticles: Synthesis & Applications
Already included standard in each of The SilverLungs Generator kits!
The "reducing agent" is used to convert your ionic silver solutions into "true" colloidal silver solutions based on 90% (non ionic) metallic silver particles of pure metal. The reducing agent is a non-toxic carbohydrate liquid.
The reducing agent provides the free electrons needed to convert the silver ions into individual (monatomic) silver atoms. The newly formed monatomic silver atoms group together to form silver particles (i.e colloidal silver) in the average particle size range of 8.4 nanometers.
Colloidal silver (vs. ionic silver) is the species of choice for oral administration into the stomach.
This 2 oz. supply provides enough agent to convert 200 batches of ionic silver into true colloidal!
This is a "perishable" item that will expire within 60-90 days if not kept frozen during non-use. Add this to your freezer upon receipt. When kept frozen, this will remain fully stable and functional for several years allowing all 200 batches to be produced from this single bottle.
THIS REDUCING AGENT DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY WITH "OTHER" SILVER GENERATORS! PLEASE DO NOT PURCHASE AND ATTEMPT THE USE OF THIS AGENT UNLESS YOU ARE PRODUCING YOUR SILVER SOLUTIONS FROM THE SILVERLUNGS GENERATOR! WE DO NOT REFUND REDUCING AGENTS IF RETURNED.
What is colloidal silver?
Colloidal silver has been generally defined as a suspension of very small silver particles and silver ions evenly dispersed in a water-based solution. To be more correct, colloidal silver is properly defined as a solution comprised primarily of silver particles rather than ions.
Whereas ionic silver is primarily comprised of silver ions rather than silver particles. The unit of measure used when referring to these ions and particles is the "nano-meter." This is where we derive the popular terms: "nano-sized silver" or simply "nano-silver." Keep in mind that "nano" refers only to size and not to a type of silver. This is just a popular abbreviated term - which is again - not referring to a type of silver, but rather nano-meter sized silver.
To understand just how small these particles and ions can be, imagine that we magnify the thickness of a single human hair to represent the distance of 1 mile. Now, imagine that these tiny silver particles and silver ions could be seen as small as a single green pea within that same 1 mile stretch.
What is PPM?
The term "parts per million" (or PPM) is a way of expressing very diluted concentrations of one substance in another. Keep in mind that PPM (in reference to silver) refers to a quantity and not a type of silver. Many for example will confuse 10 PPM and 20 PPM by thinking that the silver (content) is different in some way - when rather this is only a difference in the amount or quantity of silver within a solution.
This would be like thinking that a 500MG aspirin is different than a 1000MG aspirin (in content) when actually the only difference is the quantity of the exact same compound. For example, if you had a bottle of 500MG aspirins but needed a dose of 1000MG's, the obvious solution is to ingest (2) of the 500MG aspirins to achieve the desired dosage. Let's apply the same analogy to silver by saying you can either consume 20 PPM of silver solution or twice the quantity of a 10 PPM solution to achieve the same dosage. 1 PPM equates to 1 milligram of silver per 1 liter of water. Whereas 20 PPM of silver equates to 20 milligrams of silver per liter of water. This is simply 20 times the amount of the exact same silver in the same volume of water.
Again, PPM is a unit of measure of one substance in another and not a reference to a type or form of a substance.
What kind of silver is produced?
When creating a silver solution, always remember there are four "species" of silver that can be created. These four species of silver are:
Silver ions: a single atom of silver that is missing its one and only electron from its outer most "valence" ring. A silver ion possesses a positive charge due to its unbalanced state after the removal of its valence electron. By removing a negative portion from the silver atom (remembering that electrons are negatively charged matter), we're left with a positive balance (or charge) as there is now more positive force within the atom than there is negative force. This is the majority of what is produced during electrolysis.
Silver atoms: the smallest individual piece of silver that can exist in its complete state as silver. Silver atoms will always combine with other single silver atoms to form particles of silver.
Silver metallic particles: 2 or more silver atoms bonded together through a metallic bond.
Silver oxide (Ag2O): a compound of silver that is formed during the electrolysis process and slowly over time after the process completes. This silver compound is formed by 2 atoms of silver and 1 atom of free oxygen. This silver compound will decompose over time to form a diatomic particle of silver and will then release the oxygen.
Why is "true" colloidal silver yellow?
A true colloidal silver solution that is comprised of nano-particles of pure silver metal that are less than 40 nanometers in diameter will (always) exhibit a yellow hue. If the concentration of a true colloidal silver solution moves into the 15 PPM range of concentration or greater, the color will fade into a deep amber and then brown depending on how far beyond 15 PPM of concentration the solution is.
The resulting yellow color is because silver nano-particles that are in this size range absorb the blue/violet/indigo spectrum of white light and thus reflect all other colors (except for) the spectrum that has been absorbed. This phenomenon of particle physics is called "plasmon absorption resonance" and is not a theory but rather a very well understood attribute of silver nano-particles in solution. This same phenomenon also applies to other metals such as gold, platinum, palladium and copper, each exhibiting their own unique colors such as blue, green, red, etc.
The yellow resulting color in true colloidal silver solutions is from the perception of the white light reflecting off the particles absent of the blue/violet/indigo spectrum, which has been selectively absorbed instead of also reflected, which then leaves the subtractive color difference of yellow. If the silver nano-particles begin to grow beyond 40 nanometers in size, the spectrum of light that is absorbed begins to move away from blue/violet/indigo and into other spectrums. If this happens, the colloidal solution would begin to change to colors such as green, pink, blue, etc. If the nano-particles continue to grow beyond the (absorbed) color ranges that the human eye can perceive, they will no longer absorb any of the visible spectrums and the solution will then turn clear as if it were ionic.
Ultimately, particles that become too large will precipitate to the bottom as very large agglomerates of silver which would not be for human consumption. Be sure to check that a silver solution does not have any large particulates floating in the solution or settled to the bottom as this is - again - not a quality silver solution for human consumption.
Always remember that the "yellow" color range is the color of choice for a true colloidal silver solution as this demonstrates that the colloid contains very small nano-particles of pure silver metal smaller than 40 nanometers in size.
What happened to "the blue man?"
Simply put, Paul Karason made the mistake of adding (salt) to his distilled water as a catalyst to reduce the production time of his homemade silver solution. Paul was unaware that salt or other additives should never be incorporated into the "electrolysis" process when creating proper silver solutions. While adding salt greatly reduced Paul's production time, it actually created a completely different compound called silver chloride. In very large doses and concentrations, this silver compound has been shown to cause a skin discoloration condition called "Argyria."
Silver chloride is in no way the same as pure colloidal/ionic silver based on a distilled water base. Paul's silver concentration was suspected to be as high as 300 PPM's. This concentration is 10 to 20 times greater potency than what The SilverLungs (pH) Generator produces and it was ingested (as) silver chloride and not colloidal or ionic silver.
A 300 PPM solution of silver chloride will form enormous sized silver-chloride particles which can begin to collect and become snagged in this skin tissue of the body. Consuming large amounts daily can lead to this condition. Large amounts and concentrations would be defined as 8-16 oz. of 300 PPM's or greater. This amount of total silver intake (of any kind) is simply not possible with The SilverLungs (pH) Generator especially through nebulization.
Sadly, the medical industry would have us believe that drinking properly-made colloidal and ionic silver will lead us all to this condition. This is simply not the case when producing your silver solutions (free of salts or other additives that form hybrid silver compounds.)
Although ingesting ionic silver will form silver chloride in the stomach, this is a concentration that is far out of range for concern, especially when only ingesting small amounts daily as a general preventative dosage. An orally safe and practical amount of 10-20 PPM of ionic silver is 1 ounce per day.
If oral ingestion is preferred and kept as a regular daily regimen, a highly particle-rich "colloidal" solution is preferred vs. a purely "ionic" solution.
Considering the facts and details surrounding Paul Karason's unfortunate situation, it should be known that no cases of Argyria have ever been linked to properly produced silver solutions that were absent of salt and other additives and kept in very safe concentrations of less than 50 PPM.
Is the generator constant current?
One of the most misreported, mislabeled and least-understood features of a colloidal silver generator is a "constant-current" feature that is essentially purported to be the only way to create consistently small particle sizes and that all other designs are inferior. The name is also an absolute misnomer by implying that the current through the water is "constant", when in fact this is only true for about 15% of the total time involved in the electrolysis process. The correct terminology should be re-branded as "current limiting technology" as this is the only functional truth to how it actually works.
The SilverLungs (pH) Generator has been designed to produce solutions faster than constant current generators while never reaching a critical point in the production that will begin to promote large particulate creation through secondary electro-chemical processes. Particulate means aggregated silver excess. This is not meant to mean nano-sized metal particles as are defined as colloids. To fully understand how the promoted "constant current technology" works, let us walk through the electrolysis process of a new silver solution from beginning to end.
Virtually all silver generators on the market call for absolutely pure distilled water as this is vital to ensure there is a minimum of contaminants or other ions that will compound and degrade the ionic silver content. Now, assuming that this is what we start with before we process a new solution, we need to understand that the slowest and least efficient point in the silver generation process is the very beginning when the water has extremely low electrical "conductivity." Water only conducts electricity when there are conductive elements (i.e. ions) within the water to allow the electricity to pass from one electrode to the other. Using poorly conductive "distilled" water is a necessary drawback as the goal is to produce a clean, silver-only solution. This means that in the very beginning stages we have to wait patiently for the silver electrodes to very slowly begin to dissolve the electrically-conductive silver ions into the water over time.
When the production begins, the water conductivity very slowly increases from the ever-increasing amount of silver ions that are being dissolved. The production process continually accelerates as more and more silver ions are dissolving into the distilled water. Keep in mind that essentially the only silver dissolving into the water are silver ions. This is why colloidal silver generators are more accurately termed as ionic silver generators as this is what comprises 90-100% of the silver content. Actual pure metallic silver particles can only be introduced into the solution later in the process when there is enough electrical conductivity in the water to assist secondary electro-chemical reactions with oxygen, hydroxide or other elements which (convert) some of the ions into atoms of silver. Individual silver atoms will then group together (agglomerate) with other silver atoms to form particles. Electrolysis of silver in water never directly creates silver particles, this is a common urban legend through repetitious misinformation. Only silver ions are dissolved from the silver electrodes, not particles.
Now, going back to constant current technology, remember that a constant current silver generator is not functioning as claimed for the vast majority of the production process. The name also implies that the electrical current is being held at a regulated point for the entire process from beginning to end. This is simply not true and will fail to be true until enough silver has dissolved into the water so that the electrical current can finally be high enough to reach the preset current limiting point.
To better understand, let's imagine that a constant current generator has a preset current limit of 20 milliamps of total electrical current flow. Until the water conductivity allows this much current to pass, it is a non-constant rising current on its way to the preset current limit. So in essence, the function of limiting the current can only be functional for a small fraction of the total time involved in producing a batch of silver. This is far from the claim of "constant current." Again, this should be a term coined as "current limiting technology" and not "constant current technology."
The SilverLungs (pH) Generator (which does not use current limiting or constant current technology) addresses the worry of large particulate creation through its massive 7 gauge silver electrodes, the highly refined 99.99% silver content, proper stirring that creates a very gentle and consistent stirring pattern, dynamic polarity reversal technology and automatic shut-off detection. All of these features account for keeping the ever-rising current below a threshold that would eventually lead to large particulate creation without sacrificing unnecessary time to limit the current for the last part of the production process.
Remember again that the bulk of what is created during the electrolysis process of virtually all silver generators is ionic silver content and not silver particles. Only in some cases will actual silver particles (i.e. colloidal silver) be produced through random, secondary electro-chemical processes and it will rarely be a percentage of particles greater then 5-10% vs. the main species of silver in the water called ionic silver.
To advance the design even further, The SilverLungs (pH) Generator provides a simple protocol to allow for the conversion of the ionic silver solutions produced into 95% true colloidal silver solutions by proper definition. This is truly the most functional and easiest to operate professional silver generator produced today.
What is the shelf-life?
Assuming that your self-produced silver solutions are kept in a dark environment (away from UV rays from the sun) and that the storage container used is contamination-free, your silver solutions will hold in suspension for many years. The only change that will happen over time is the "plating" of some of the silver ions against the walls of glass containers as well as the formation of silver oxide (Ag2O). When measuring your silver solutions with a water test meter, you can expect to see a slowly-declining (but an eventually-stabilizing) measurement. Silver oxide cannot be measured with a water test meter and will cause the solution to "appear" to lose potency while actually there is still the same total amount of silver.
How long does it take to produce?
The SilverLungs (pH) Generator can produce 1.1 liters of a 10 PPM concentration of silver in about 90 minutes and a 20 PPM concentration in about 150 minutes.
The SilverLungs (pH) Generator also features a pulsed magnetic stirring system, dynamic polarity reversal, sealed production chamber, silent operation, multiple concentration settings and automatic shut-off function.
Which PPM should I use?
The choice is yours. The only difference in the silver produced between these two power levels is a higher concentration of total silver. The time-difference involved in producing a 10 PPM solution and a 20 PPM solution is about 1 hour.
PPM simply implies a measure of concentration and not a different type of silver. If you need to produce a solution faster, then the shorter production time of 10 PPM may be best. If you want to "double up" on your silver intake (requiring less breaths through the nebulizer or less oral ingestion) then 20 PPM provides this convenience. There is no wrong setting to choose from. This only boils down to the concentration of the same silver produced. In other words, you can simply use more 10 PPM to match the same dosage of a 20 PPM solution.
How long will the silver electrodes last?
The original silver electrodes should last almost indefinitely even with extensive silver generation. To preserve their longevity, always remember that it is a vital protocol that the electrodes be polished with the (provided) 100% copper scouring pad to ensure that the electrodes are lightly polished rather than grinded down with extremely abrasive "scotch brite" pot scrubbers. Copper carries a very similar hardness to our special silver electrodes and makes an optimal surface-to-surface choice for cleaning the pure silver electrodes without excessive wear. Our competitors suggest using "scotch brite" scrubbers as the cleaning medium and this is the leading reason for requiring very frequent replacement of their silver electrodes. These scrubbers are extremely abrasive and unnecessarily remove considerable amounts of silver from the electrodes with each cleaning.
Keep in mind that there are two versions (or generations) of The SilverLungs (pH) Generator that require different electrodes if you are ordering replacements. The "Gen 2" version features a blue indicator light when the rear switch is set to the "off" position, while the "Gen 1" does not display a blue indicator light when set to the "off" position. The current model featured on our web site is the "Gen 2" version of The SilverLungs (pH) Generator and requires the (7 gauge) silver electrodes and (not) the original 10 gauge silver electrodes.
If you are ordering replacement electrodes for a "Gen 1" unit, you should choose the (10 gauge) silver electrodes from the drop-down list.
Are the silver electrodes pure silver?
The SilverLungs (pH) Generator utilizes a pair of very large (7 gauge) silver electrodes based on (99.99%) pure elemental silver. The 4th "9" of purity ensures you are guaranteed to produce the purest silver solutions possible.
Each silver electrode comes mirror polished with no sharp edges ensuring there is an even electrical current-flow between each electrode. The heavy gauge of the silver electrodes, combined with a very large silver-to-water contact area, ensures a near-infinite life-span.
What is the laser pointer for?
A high-powered laser pointer is an indispensable tool for checking the quality of your silver solutions. The presence of large and undesirable silver aggregates will reveal themselves easily with a high-power laser pointer. This is a very useful tool when creating your silver solutions and highly recommended. Batteries are included when purchased through our online store.
The SilverLungs (pH) Generator has been carefully engineered to create extremely clean and consistent silver solutions that are absent of large, undesirable silver aggregates, yet there is nothing more assuring than a quick visual inspection before bottling and storing your solution.
What is magnetic stirring?
One of the most important features of a silver generator is a stirring mechanism. What makes The SilverLungs (pH) Generator unique is a pulsed "magnetic" stirring feature that does not require the production flask to be un-sealed. Most competing silver generators do not even include a stirring mechanism while the ones that do are the non-sealed type which leave the silver solution exposed to air-born contaminants. This makes it difficult to check the solution for clarity, confusing dust and debris for undesirable large silver aggregates.
Simply deposit the magnetic stirring bar into the bottom of the production flask and once the generator begins production, the magnetic stirring bar will follow the built-in spinning magnet and create a very gentle and consistent stirring of the solution creating no risk for loosening small traces of silver hydroxide excess from the silver electrodes. Other stirring methods include bubblers yet this produces a very inconsistent and turbulent scenario that tends to loosen the excess silver hydroxide build-up and pull it into solution. This creates for a very messy end product.
The silver solutions produced with The SilverLungs (pH) Generator are extremely clean and excess-free when following the simple protocol for production.
What is dynamic polarity reversal?
Polarity reversal is a very useful and functional feature in a silver generator as it spreads the wear and load of dissolved silver evenly across both silver electrodes. As well, the very specific "dynamic" timing interval featured greatly reduces the total amount of silver hydroxide accumulation that collects on the electrodes. Not only does this preserve the longevity and life-span of your valuable silver electrodes, this again greatly reduces the (otherwise) hard to manage silver hydroxide accumulation that usually breaks off into solution in our competitors products.
This is the main feature responsible for how The SilverLungs (pH) Generator is able to produce high concentrations in a single pass without any messy excess silver hydroxide deposited into your solutions or having to stop in multiple intervals to re-clean the electrodes.
Why do I need a water test meter?
Our digital water test meter is vital to test the initial quality of your distilled water and also measures the amount of dissolved silver ions in your final solution. This item is not included with The SilverLungs (pH) Generator "Base Kit" to accommodate those who already own a proper water test meter. The water test meter (is) included with The SilverLungs (pH) Generator "Deluxe Kits" along with our most popular accessories.
The water test meter comes pre-calibrated saving time with initial setup. Always remember that the only form of silver that can be measured with the water test meter is the ionic content and not the particle/colloidal content. When using the water test meter on a completed silver solution, always subtract the initial PPM reading from your final measurement and this will give you the silver concentration in PPM.
As a good standard precaution to prevent contamination of the highly reactive ionic silver, always pre-rinse the inner and outer tube of the test meter with distilled water to ensure that no contaminants are deposited into the solution when taking new measurements.
Why (only) distilled water?
Water that is not properly distilled or de-ionized is essentially not pure and may contain undesirable elements that can interfere with the final quality and effectiveness of a silver solution. It is also imperative that no "additives" be incorporated before, during or after the electrolysis process to ensure that only the pure elemental form of silver is present within the suspension of a pure H2O environment.
The harmless skin discoloration condition called "Argyria" has been linked to ingestion of improperly created silver solutions that were produced with salt or other ingredients added as a catalyst to decrease production time. Although adding salt will greatly reduce the time required to dissolve silver into solution, it also produces the undesirable compound known as "silver chloride."
Keep in mind that distilled and de-ionized water is not equivalent to filtered, reverse osmosis, spring, well or mineral water. Distilled and de-ionized water means "pure" water absent of any minerals, additives, ions and impurities. "Berkey" type water filtration systems do not distill nor deionize water nor do "atmospheric" water generators. Again, distilled or deionized water only!
I have been thinking of buying a generator from silverlungs.com when I decide to spend that kind of money.
And so one of their items included with the generator is a reducing agent that supposedly convert ionic silver into true colloidal silver:
Here is their FAQ:
Since I know nothing about these things I can't tell if any of what they claim makes sense or is true, but the 'feel' I get when I read this was that it sounds convincing, that, this generator can make real colloidal silver.