obyvatel said:[quote author=echo]
Sorry again if this is the most obvious question ever, but why exactly is the trance dangerous?
Trance bypasses the natural defense mechanisms (like using the frontal cortex to critically evaluate incoming impressions and data) which are inside us for some level of protection from non-physical realms. In the Sufi Path of Knowledge, Chittick writes
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Nowadays most people interested in the spirituality of the East desire the "experience," though they may call what they are after "intimate communion with God." Those familiar with the standards and norms of spiritual experience set down by disciplined paths are usually appalled at the way Westerners seize upon any apparition from the domain outside of normal consciousness as a manifestation of the "spiritual." In fact there are innumerable realms in the unseen world, some of them far more dangerous than the worst jungles of the visible world. No person familiar with the teachings of Sufism would dare lay himself open to such forces.
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This topic has been covered in depth by Laura. The Wave series would help. Also, the following article " A Survey Of Channeling" discusses related issues.
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/chan2.htm
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Another helpful source is Michael Topper's articles on channeling
_http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/topper/topper02a.htm#PART%20ONE
He can be difficult to read, but what I found interesting is his description of the idea that even so-called positive 4th density contact can be problematical as he describes in part three:
There is no "malevolent" intent here. These are "positive" entities. But there is deception!! This circumstance exists as an anomaly to us due to our misperception of what it means to be a "positive entity". Positive entities so polarized at 4th density level and higher, are "positive" by virtue of their decision to adhere to Cosmic Law, to subscribe to peaceful and cooperative means. They’re not "positive" in the sense that they exist to impartially help us and promote our spiritual awakening. They have taken specific, characteristic paths in space/time with very distinct destinies, and though they exist in social/memory/complex harmony with one another their sheer, incarnative situationality imposes conditions that describe the priorities of their own particular group.
Thus their subterfuge "message" to us, assumed under the guise of the Teacher most revered and sacrosanct on this planet and thus most likely to be listened to, is "benign" in the sense that it encourages our very necessary care of the planet, but it is not a message that conveys a real teaching, of maximum benefit to our own spiritual development in line with our unique destiny and collective Path. It is a message which, while promoting the positive values of our planetary husbandry is still basically self-referred, for it’s meant primarily to goad and shame us into maintaining—or prolonging the life of—a sphere which functions as a cosmic filling-station for them. They are interested in the preservation of the connecting space-lanes of the interstitial ethers, they are not interested per se in our spiritual development, which is why they’re perfectly content to paint us a picture of spiritual accomplishment consonant with our roles as glorified gardeners for "their" satellite Resource!!
Can "positive" entities out-and-out lie like that?? Yes they can! And do!
At that time, I had no knowledge of the nature of hyper-dimensional realities and I was harboring a LOT of new age beliefs, completely ignorant of the nature of evil. So, if Harner suggested that we could contact positive guides, I believed it..
I shudder now to think of what could have happened had I continued, and am thankful that I was as fortunate as I was.
