Costa Concordia

mkrnhr

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Hello,
I would like to submit a few random, and speculative thoughts about the Costa Concordia ship disaster.

wikipedia said:
On 13 January 2012, the Costa Concordia ran aground, was holed, and capsized in the Tyrrhenian Sea just off the shore of Isola del Giglio, near the western coast of Italy.

wiki said:
The name Concordia was intended to express the wish for "continuing harmony, unity, and peace between European nations."

This event may be associated to another well known ship disaster, the Titanic, which happenend a hundred years ago (April 14th, 1912).

If we replace the Titanic iceberg with the Concordia rocks, it looks like today's events are a blurry remake of the anterior ones, maybe under some time loop imprinting of some sort. And as very often in history, the irony is that the song from the Titanic movie was playing on the Concordia "at the very moment the ship's hull was ripped open": https://www.sott.net/articles/show/240423-Costa-Concordia-Passenger-Titanic-Theme-Played-As-Ship-Hit-Rocks

These unfortunate coincidences may (or may not) hint to some symbolic emanation from 4D or wherever else. It is just a supposition though.

When we consider the name of the ship, and considering that the Titanic (an "Olympic" class ocean liner) name was associated to the Titans, we find that:

wikipedia said:
Concord (Latin: Concordia, "harmony") was the [Roman] goddess of agreement, understanding, and marital harmony. Her Greek version is Harmonia
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and that:
wikipedia said:
Concordia was depicted sitting, wearing a long cloak and holding onto a patera (sacrificial bowl), a cornucopia (symbol of prosperity), or a caduceus (symbol of peace). She was often shown in between two other figures, such as standing between two members of the Royal House shaking hands. She was associated with a pair of female deities, such as Pax and Salus--or Securitas and Fortuna.
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So if the sinking of Concordia is symbolic of a sinking of peace, prosperity, and health, then we are in dire straits (pun intended :P).

The Titanic disaster announced somehow great changes in the distributions of power and some dire consequences upon humanity, an given the possible time loop effect in the case of Costa Concordia, it is possible that the Universe, or something in the Universe is telling us something of the same nature? This is just a hypothesis, so wait and see, or maybe we will have other signs from other events.

What do you think?
 
mkrnhr said:
What do you think?

I think that the symbolism in this is very interesting with what is currently happening in the EU right now; and is spot-on.

The name Concordia and all it symbolizes is really interesting. Thanks for sharing.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
mkrnhr said:
What do you think?

I think that the symbolism in this is very interesting with what is currently happening in the EU right now; and is spot-on.

The name Concordia and all it symbolizes is really interesting. Thanks for sharing.

I concur good points! I didn't hear (no pun) so far that they played the titanic song at that time.

Maybe the Captain is also a bit symbolic if not psychopathic who left the ship some time before if got sunk and even caused the catastrophe. And with his claims that he fell into the life-saving boat etc. is ridiculous. Well speaking of the elite.
 
The role of the captain is rather interesting, isn't it? Showing off, runs aground, abandons ship... and NOW he's in jail. Now, THAT is something to look forward to!
 
If there would be such a symbolism in Titanic disaster (intercontinental ship sank with so many casualties which could predict incoming world wars with millions of victims) maybe this disaster of fancy and great Concordia with "just" 12 (for now) casualties could symbolize the Fall of quasi-rich and sparkling outside but rotten inside EU with psychopathic captains/leaders... Following this vast majority of Europeans could survive this doom of financial skyscraper of cards .... :scared:
 
The symbolism is fascinating, particularly with events that capture the imagination of so many...a day or so after hearing the story I looked up "Concordia" in Italian and the translation said (not surprisingly) "concord." Then the info came out about each deck being named after EU countries--AND the ship was owned ultimately by Carnival Corp., a British-American company that also owns Cunard Line.

I took this as symbolism that the (economic) "concord" of the EU countries is on the rocks, and the mid-level leadership will abandon ship to save their own skin but efforts will be made to "get [them] back on board" or else. Some conspiracy sites have picked up on the deck names/symbolism as indicative of something beyond coincidence...whatever, either way, it is too weird.

(Deck names are listed here, for now, many of these sites with cruise info have been removed: _http://www.cruisecheap.com/ships/costa-cruises-costa-concordia-deck-plans.html)

One thing I thought was interesting but haven't figured out the symbolism, that it hit the island of Giglio, which means "lily" or "fleur-de-lis."

Also mildy interesting that the name Schettino has French/Northern European connections (from ancestry.com):
Schettino Name Meaning
Italian: of uncertain derivation; possibly from a reduced pet form of Franceschetto, itself a pet form of the personal name Francesco (see Francis). Caracausi proposes a derivation from the old French personal name Ansketil, ultimately from Old Norse Ásketill (see Anctil).

PS my New Year's resolution is to post on this forum, so many intersting topics, haven't posted in a looong time!
 
Let's also not rule out the possibility of Distraction. Nothing like overblown human interest stories to draw you away from REAL matters. It's just a lopsided ship with lots of bourgeoisie wailing about their interrupted holiday. Twelve or more? How is that even comparable to the quadrillions who have perished in wars? People have died in worse ways: in a building under demolition (9-11), in a metal tube plummeting towards the sea/ground (uncountable plane crashes), by millions of fine shrapnel (bombs used against Iraqis), Agent Insert Favorite Color Here, radiation, good old-fashioned torture, gassing...

Leave the "symbolism" of this extremely minor event to places like godlikeproductions and abovetopsecret.
 
Muxel said:
Let's also not rule out the possibility of Distraction. Nothing like overblown human interest stories to draw you away from REAL matters. It's just a lopsided ship with lots of bourgeoisie wailing about their interrupted holiday. Twelve or more? How is that even comparable to the quadrillions who have perished in wars? People have died in worse ways: in a building under demolition (9-11), in a metal tube plummeting towards the sea/ground (uncountable plane crashes), by millions of fine shrapnel (bombs used against Iraqis), Agent Insert Favorite Color Here, radiation, good old-fashioned torture, gassing...

Leave the "symbolism" of this extremely minor event to places like godlikeproductions and abovetopsecret.

Well, I agree to an extent about the distraction aspect. But that's just what the mainstream media does, whatever the story.

But we also live in a symbolic universe and there could be data we can get by paying attention. SOTT and this forum have done this for years (e.g. collapsing cranes, etc.) to see what the environment and symbolic universe might be telling us. So I don't agree with your suggestion to leave the symbolism to disinformation sites.
 
Muxel said:
Let's also not rule out the possibility of Distraction. Nothing like overblown human interest stories to draw you away from REAL matters. It's just a lopsided ship with lots of bourgeoisie wailing about their interrupted holiday. Twelve or more? How is that even comparable to the quadrillions who have perished in wars? People have died in worse ways: in a building under demolition (9-11), in a metal tube plummeting towards the sea/ground (uncountable plane crashes), by millions of fine shrapnel (bombs used against Iraqis), Agent Insert Favorite Color Here, radiation, good old-fashioned torture, gassing...

Nobody questioned it that there are less less or more important things going on, it was just taking into consideration the symbolism of this particular event, the timing when it happened, what happened and the things what it could be, well speculation.

Muxel said:
Leave the "symbolism" of this extremely minor event to places like godlikeproductions and abovetopsecret.

Why are you reacting that way and that it is only for godlikeproductions and abovetopsecret? As far as I know this forum is about to discuss current world events and also "minor" ones and to see the symbolism.
 
SeekinTruth said:
But we also live in a symbolic universe and there could be data we can get by paying attention. SOTT and this forum have done this for years (e.g. collapsing cranes, etc.) to see what the environment and symbolic universe might be telling us. So I don't agree with your suggestion to leave the symbolism to disinformation sites.
Mmm...okay. Agreed. Indeed the universe is symbolic.

About the media though...stuff like collapsing cranes are reported as-is, with no cause for sensationalism, and SOTT picks up on the trends. But the Concordia is given too much press IMO, so I assume the PTB wants our attention diverted to it. What do you think? :/

Or maybe the media are pushing the Titanic parallels hard in order to obscure the "real" significance of the Concordia/Titanic sinkings. Maybe there's something "quantum" about a ship's hull.

Gawan said:
Why are you reacting that way and that it is only for godlikeproductions and abovetopsecret? As far as I know this forum is about to discuss current world events and also "minor" ones and to see the symbolism.
My concern was, this event is insignificant compared to larger-scale events (everything can be said to be "symbolic"). Scale-wise, collapsing cranes everywhere warrants more attention than one sunken cruise liner blown up by the media. However, like SeekinTruth said, something can be learned from this (in my opinion, tiny) event. So, scale may not really matter.
 
Laura said:
The role of the captain is rather interesting, isn't it? Showing off, runs aground, abandons ship... and NOW he's in jail. Now, THAT is something to look forward to!
IF he ever was a captain. IF he's got a captains "licence" he probably got it from a kinder-egg. Reminiscent of the "captain" that visited Finland recently...

Edit: Sorry for the rant :-[ . But as a former seaman it irks me no end how they get their necessary credentials that they obviously lack anyway :mad:
Weell, we all know(on this forum) how that is...
 
what I find interesting is the media attention to this.

Haven't you noticed that some news are spreading like wildfire through out all branges of the media (TV, Radio, News Papers etc) for days even weeks ? and some news are not considered by any media ? it is like there is a agreement between TV stations Radio, News Papers etc. to what item gets coverage, in wich ammount and for how long.
 
Muxel said:
Leave the "symbolism" of this extremely minor event to places like godlikeproductions and abovetopsecret.

My concern was, this event is insignificant compared to larger-scale events (everything can be said to be "symbolic"). Scale-wise, collapsing cranes everywhere warrants more attention than one sunken cruise liner blown up by the media. However, like SeekinTruth said, something can be learned from this (in my opinion, tiny) event. So, scale may not really matter.

Muxel, you have a tendency to vastly overestimate your own level of knowledge, understanding and influence. This is (hopefully) because you are very young and full of yourself, so you'll grow out of it eventually. It's really not up to you to determine what is and what is not valuable for discussion on this forum. It would be really helpful to you if you would work on learning to question your own thinking - otherwise you're never going to move one centimeter from where you currently are.
 
anart said:
Muxel said:
Leave the "symbolism" of this extremely minor event to places like godlikeproductions and abovetopsecret.

My concern was, this event is insignificant compared to larger-scale events (everything can be said to be "symbolic"). Scale-wise, collapsing cranes everywhere warrants more attention than one sunken cruise liner blown up by the media. However, like SeekinTruth said, something can be learned from this (in my opinion, tiny) event. So, scale may not really matter.

Muxel, you have a tendency to vastly overestimate your own level of knowledge, understanding and influence. This is (hopefully) because you are very young and full of yourself, so you'll grow out of it eventually. It's really not up to you to determine what is and what is not valuable for discussion on this forum. It would be really helpful to you if you would work on learning to question your own thinking - otherwise you're never going to move one centimeter from where you currently are.

What Anart said.

We have admins and mods, by the way, and you aren't one of them.
 

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