Creating Stickers and Placards to extend awarness of SOTT,EE,Psychopathy etc.

[Faith]

:) Thank you, Jones. That's very kind of you telling me this. When you relate this issue to yourself, it makes me feel that I am not facing this problem alone. I felt really bad after my last post, ashamed and anxious like a naive little boy. My imagination likes to act on fears and feelings of insufficiency. But fortunately I managed to not get too obsessed with judging myself and imagining scenarios of great failure. That moment of irritation when dream and reality clashed together has let to feelings of being hurt, insufficiency, anger,... you name it, unpleasant things that are threatening to my ego, to that sense of self-importance and self-control. And to me it takes some time to sort it out, to become myself again, more or less. I feel I am more myself when I am honestly observing without to judge anyone or anything.

Everything I say or do close to that moment of irritation might turn out being self-related and self-protective while trying to have the opposite effect on my counterpart. It blinds me and makes me crazy. I hate feeling that way. I guess the best thing is to leave the room and calm down BEFORE acting in any way. Easier said than done. Sometimes it works a little and sometimes not at all. I find those failures much more difficult to accept when it causes problems to others. Thanks god I'm in no position of power!

But I don't want to wander from the original subject any longer. I'm already taking way too much space in here.

 

[Faith]

And of course I won't ask Mr. Fish if he is willing to hand over those files! I just sent him the Text Anart suggested. That's it. I apologize for the inconveniences I've caused. It won't happen again!

His answer:

"Thanks, Florian.

Fish"

 

[anka]

I have gone through all the threads about promoting QFG, SOTT etc. and thought about using my VW Transporter as a good place for it.

Just not sure if this way of advertising is welcome by the owners since there is a possible catch. You, QFG people, might not like the idea that anything promoted on the car might be linked to my activities (I make my living through work in eco-building, mainly plastering with clay and natural straw, plus constructions related to that type of works) which have nothing to do with yours. However, I would accept your suggestions and restrictions in terms of what design to use out of those available, how and what to promote.

I am thinking of:

* one of the already existing pictures available on SOTT (my favourites: city.jpg/With Deepest Sympathy or 6percent.jpg/Psychopats Rule Our World)
* QFG promotion
* RedPillPress publishing & books

or a mixture of these. Alternatively, I would be happy to promote ÉE or FOTCM too (though I have only yesterday applied for membership which naturally could not have been approved yet, if ever).

My idea would be to use a big-size picture for the back 2-wing door and some smaller grafics for sides or even front. Would that be interesting from the QFG's point of view?

I shall add that I mostly travel with the van in the northern Bohemia (the Czech Republic), in Amsterdam/Noord-Holland area (the Netherlands), and on the route between the two (across Germany, from Dresden through Magdeburg, Hannover, Osnabruck).

 

[Niall]

Just not sure if this way of advertising is welcome by the owners since there is a possible catch. You, QFG people, might not like the idea that anything promoted on the car might be linked to my activities (I make my living through work in eco-building, mainly plastering with clay and natural straw, plus constructions related to that type of works) which have nothing to do with yours. However, I would accept your suggestions and restrictions in terms of what design to use out of those available, how and what to promote.

I am thinking of:

* one of the already existing pictures available on SOTT (my favourites: city.jpg/With Deepest Sympathy or 6percent.jpg/Psychopats Rule Our World)
* QFG promotion
* RedPillPress publishing & books

or a mixture of these. Alternatively, I would be happy to promote ÉE or FOTCM too (though I have only yesterday applied for membership which naturally could not have been approved yet, if ever).

My idea would be to use a big-size picture for the back 2-wing door and some smaller grafics for sides or even front. Would that be interesting from the QFG's point of view?

Hi anka,

We have no problem with these ideas, go for it! If it was me, I would focus more on promoting SOTT/EE/Red Pill Press because these things already have a public presence.

 

[Infernal]

Hiya Pashalis, I think you've struck on an awesome idea.
I've got a background in web and graphic design, over the next few nights I'll make up a handful of examples as a thought to play around with.
The further awareness we can add to reality, the closer we are to the critical mass required for transcendence.

 

[anka]

Hi anka,

We have no problem with these ideas, go for it! If it was me, I would focus more on promoting SOTT/EE/Red Pill Press because these things already have a public presence.

Great, so I have discussed the issue with Tigersoap via PM and he suggested to put my inquiry on the forum so here it is:

Would any one of the forum members' graphic designers be up for taking care of the design of my T4 van with suggested graphics? (SOTT/EE/RPP)

I have almost no requirements. Would love to have the front part with simple graphics with C's motto, either 1) Knowledge protects, Ignorance endangers, or 2) Life is religion (that triple spiral as displayed by Revolt on their T-shirts is something I like very much).

All else is a matter of blending those 3 things (or two) together nicely so it would be a neat presentation/promotion. I can send out pictures of the van to those interested in designing this thing.

Thanks for your considerations!

 

[Possibility of Being]

In the light (or should I say, the dark?) of recent growing efforts to normalize, popularize and promote psychopathy, or some traits of it, which for me personally, as I said elsewhere, is one of the worst signs of the times, I feel that something has to be done about it before it's too late. And because the current, mostly materialistic and/or ponerized, society is about to swallow it willingly, I'm afraid that "too late" is right behind the corner. And when it becomes reality, I can't see if there is anything that can be done to undo it.

I'm not sure how many of you feel the same way and how many of you followed the threads where a discussion about the infamous work of Kevin Dutton has been discussed. For me, finding out that a forum member could defend Dutton's position on "useful traits of psychopaths" was a real shock. (For those of you who don't know what I am referring to, see the thread: Psychopath Night - Channel 4 TV (UK).)

So what do you think about spreading an opposite signal? I have an idea for graphically talented members - if a consensus is to go for it. Aside from stickers, plackards, t-shirts, badges, etc., SOTT.net could get another poster, or even a new motto that reads: "Don't agree to normalize psychopathy" or something along the lines. I'm sure native speakers can come up with better and more catchy slogans.

What do you think?

 

[H-KQGE]

In the light (or should I say, the dark?) of recent growing efforts to normalize, popularize and promote psychopathy, or some traits of it, which for me personally, as I said elsewhere, is one of the worst signs of the times, I feel that something has to be done about it before it's too late. And because the current, mostly materialistic and/or ponerized, society is about to swallow it willingly, I'm afraid that "too late" is right behind the corner. And when it becomes reality, I can't see if there is anything that can be done to undo it.

I'm not sure how many of you feel the same way and how many of you followed the threads where a discussion about the infamous work of Kevin Dutton has been discussed. For me, finding out that a forum member could defend Dutton's position on "useful traits of psychopaths" was a real shock. (For those of you who don't know what I am referring to, see the thread: _http://_https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,33335.msg460026.html#msg460026]Psychopath Night - Channel 4 TV (UK).)

So what do you think about spreading an opposite signal? I have an idea for graphically talented members - if a consensus is to go for it. Aside from stickers, plackards, t-shirts, badges, etc., SOTT.net could get another poster, or even a new motto that reads: "Don't agree to normalize psychopathy" or something along the lines. I'm sure native speakers can come up with better and more catchy slogans.

What do you think?

I fear that it may already be too late. That isn't about to stop me "pushing back" though, & some might be able to regurgitate the filth. I'm not graphically talented, but I think it's a good & timely idea for SOTT to have a greater presence "out there".

I've re-read the numerous related threads on "spreading an opposite signal" & there's enough members with the talent to do this I think. Time, as always, is a substantial factor, but the way I see it is that if forum members can come up with "Life is Religion" & get that published, then with the various backgrounds & professional skill (well-educated) of them should be enough to accomplish this task. So I'm definitely supporting whatever idea(s) you & others come up with, & from my end, I know what I can do with what resources I have. There were/are some really good ideas on the related threads (like this one) with great advice on the finer points i.e. protection/anonymity & more.

I had actually been through those threads a few months back & was thinking of how to contribute pragmatically, but I got side-tracked, so what recently took place on that thread should provide fresh impetus for all who know, are aware & CAN DO. As I was first reading your post, the P.P. book discussion thread came to mind. In that thread, Obyvatel was asking for help in creating a less abstruse & more accessible version of P.P.

For whatever reason, it never got started (unless there's some form of it being developed behind the scenes that I'm unaware of) but at the time he posted it I thought it was just what was needed ("The Layperson's Political Ponerology?") in concert of the promotion of SOTT, & other key words (Quantum Future - E.E. etc) that could (have?) prove to be stellar. As he rightly says "summarizing sections and adding relevant supplementary material based on research findings helps in getting a deeper understanding of this process of ponerization." Which could throw out some more useful phrases to possibly be used on stickers, t-shirts & all the rest.

Unfortunately I couldn't participate in that as I need a much deeper understanding of not just P.P. but other cognitive science works. Then & now is not the time for me to dive-in, there's still a few key books to get through (& I prefer to read books as many times as possible for things to begin to sink in) & I've only just been able to get my hands on Gurdjieff (ISOTM, hopefully all of those threads will help) but I look forward to in the future.

Anyways, I'm currently thinking of some slogans or/and additional mottos. The thing is, it's hard to match those 6 crucial words: "The World For People Who Think", whoever came up with that needs a raise... ;)

 

[anka]

Time, as always, is a substantial factor, but the way I see it is that if forum members can come up with "Life is Religion" & get that published, then with the various backgrounds & professional skill (well-educated) of them should be enough to accomplish this task. So I'm definitely supporting whatever idea(s) you & others come up with, & from my end, I know what I can do with what resources I have. There were/are some really good ideas on the related threads (like this one) with great advice on the finer points i.e. protection/anonymity & more.

Very much so. On one hand I thought it is already too late to change anything of what PoB suggest but on the other, the forum has proved that anything makes sense and can be done in no time when a group decides that something is right to do and therefore should be done.

It brings me to this:

As I was first reading your post, the P.P. book discussion thread came to mind. In that thread, Obyvatel was asking for help in creating a less abstruse & more accessible version of P.P.

Where is that thread please?? I was thinking exactly about the same thing when PoB came up with her idea:

In the light (or should I say, the dark?) of recent growing efforts to normalize, popularize and promote psychopathy ..., I feel that something has to be done...
...
So what do you think about spreading an opposite signal?

When I try to discuss ponerology, for example, with other people, many of them don't even think that it is something important to talk about or if they acknowledge there might be something about it then they simplify the whole issue as not so serious as I present it. So I find it really crucial to bang on and bring out some kind of reader's-digest info which could wake up whoever might not grasp it yet and have a potential to understand. And it would definitely help me and others to improve the understanding of and the ability to argue on this topic.

Therefore, if there is already a work-in-progress focused on "P.P. for dummies", then I think that's a perfect place to start with and combine it with what PoB suggests, imho. That project should be finished and I am sure that we can get some really spot-on slogans/thoughts that will be suitable for stickers etc.

 

[H-KQGE]

Time, as always, is a substantial factor, but the way I see it is that if forum members can come up with "Life is Religion" & get that published, then with the various backgrounds & professional skill (well-educated) of them should be enough to accomplish this task. So I'm definitely supporting whatever idea(s) you & others come up with, & from my end, I know what I can do with what resources I have. There were/are some really good ideas on the related threads (like this one) with great advice on the finer points i.e. protection/anonymity & more.

Very much so. On one hand I thought it is already too late to change anything of what PoB suggest but on the other, the forum has proved that anything makes sense and can be done in no time when a group decides that something is right to do and therefore should be done.

It brings me to this:

As I was first reading your post, the P.P. book discussion thread came to mind. In that thread, Obyvatel was asking for help in creating a less abstruse & more accessible version of P.P.

Where is that thread please?? I was thinking exactly about the same thing when PoB came up with her idea:

In the light (or should I say, the dark?) of recent growing efforts to normalize, popularize and promote psychopathy ..., I feel that something has to be done...
...
So what do you think about spreading an opposite signal?

When I try to discuss ponerology, for example, with other people, many of them don't even think that it is something important to talk about or if they acknowledge there might be something about it then they simplify the whole issue as not so serious as I present it. So I find it really crucial to bang on and bring out some kind of reader's-digest info which could wake up whoever might not grasp it yet and have a potential to understand. And it would definitely help me and others to improve the understanding of and the ability to argue on this topic.

Therefore, if there is already a work-in-progress focused on "P.P. for dummies", then I think that's a perfect place to start with and combine it with what PoB suggests, imho. That project should be finished and I am sure that we can get some really spot-on slogans/thoughts that will be suitable for stickers etc.

Hello anka. I don't want to add more active links just for this reference so... go to "Psychology and Cognitive Science" on the science board, then to "Political Ponerology: Macrosocial Evil" on the child board. There you'll find Political Ponerology 'The Book'. I think it's good for others to know how to also reach threads "the long way around". FWIW

 

[Lisa Guliani]

Here's another idea: ink stampers.
I used to use them to get the word out about 9/11.
You can order them to say whatever you want them to say, and then you simply stamp the money ( or whatever you're stamping). I stamped money.
Then, when you spend the money, it's printed on there in red or black ( or whatever color you get).
It's quicker than hand-writing and has the potential to do the same thing, imo.

 

[anka]

Here's another idea: ink stampers.
I used to use them to get the word out about 9/11.
You can order them to say whatever you want them to say, and then you simply stamp the money ( or whatever you're stamping). I stamped money.
Then, when you spend the money, it's printed on there in red or black ( or whatever color you get).
It's quicker than hand-writing and has the potential to do the same thing, imo.

You are definitely right the money would be a great media for that but how dangerous is that?
I think it is a revolutionary act with possible consequence in the sense of law offence. The only safe way would be to pay at the checkout machines in supermarkets - and I am really trying to avoid shopping in supermarkets in general. All the other options are risky (shop assistants, bank officers etc.) even though such a note would still go through a scanner as valid.

Another thing is that I thought the poster/sticker/postcard should also promote SOTT and then the use of money for that purpose would be out of question.

 

[Lisa Guliani]

I did it plenty of times, both handwritten and ink stamped money. I paid using it everywhere. Nobody ever said anything to me.The person you hand it to isn't, in my experience, going to be asking you if you wrote on the money, or stamped it. Money gets passed around constantly, every single day.
I can't think of any negative consequence I ever experienced from spending money that was ink stamped or written on.

 

[H-KQGE]

Here's another idea: ink stampers.
I used to use them to get the word out about 9/11.
You can order them to say whatever you want them to say, and then you simply stamp the money ( or whatever you're stamping). I stamped money.
Then, when you spend the money, it's printed on there in red or black ( or whatever color you get).
It's quicker than hand-writing and has the potential to do the same thing, imo.

For 9/11? That's good thinking, kudos to you. I'm definitely feeling that ink stamping idea. I was jotting down some low budget ideas the other day & I almost discarded the thought, simply 'cause I couldn't remember the name. I thought of ink, I thought of stamps, I even thought of various places where they're used (don't laugh) such as the passport office, but my mind wouldn't connect "ink", and "stamper" together. Duh! Must've been too tired I guess.

Speaking of "defacing" money, I see lots & lots of felt-tip pen marks/writings on all notes & no one seems the least bit bothered by it. When I get notes like that, I'm just more aware of that particular note, or notes. Still, I would feel a bit off by stamping SOTT right across queen Liz's face since it's linked to Cass. I'd do it in a heartbeat if I was sure there would be no blowback for this site.