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The Cosmic Force
altamash said:i came here with good intentions but they were soon perverted, i couldnt stop fascinating about the fact that i am 'closer' to you and maybe someday i could ask you to ask the C's about me. But what i learned it that i doesnt matter whether its the c's or ra or any higher density sto being, i dont need anyone to tell me 'what to do'.
There are 'real life experiences', many of them already 'present' in my life with is sufficient to keep me 'on track'.
It seems to me that you are still seeing everything only from your own point of view. Obviously, wanting to ask the Cs about yourself is self-serving, but then your next step is equally so. How can your own life experiences keep you on track? By what measure are you capable of judging anything, of knowing what keeps you on track or off track?
Your reaction "I don't need anyone to tell me 'what to do'" is a very mechanical reaction to being called out. It is a defence mechanism. It is the predator circling the wagons against what it perceives as attack.
Do you know this text by Jeanne de Salzmann?
First Initiation By Jeanne de Salzmann
You will see that in life you receive exactly what you give. Your life is the mirror of what you are. It is in your image. You are passive, blind, demanding. You take all, you accept all, without feeling any obligation. Your attitude toward the world and toward life is the attitude of one who has the right to make demands and to take, who has no need to pay or to earn. You believe that all things are your due, simply because it is you! All your blindness is there! None of this strikes your attention. And yet this is what keeps one world separate from another world.
You have no measure with which to measure yourselves. You live exclusively according to "I like" or "I don´t like," you have no appreciation except for yourself. You recognize nothing above you-theoretically, logically, perhaps, but actually no. That is why you are demanding and continue to believe that everything is cheap and that you have enough in your pocket to buy everything you like. You recognize nothing above you, either outside yourself or inside. That is why, I repeat, you have no measure and live passively according to your likes and dislikes.
Yes, your "appreciation of yourself" blinds you. It is the biggest obstacle to a new life. You must be able to get over this obstacle, this threshold, before going further. This test divides men into two kinds: the "wheat" and the "chaff." No matter how intelligent, how gifted, how brilliant a man may be, if he does not change his appreciation of himself, there will be no hope for an inner development, for a work toward self-knowledge, for a true becoming. He will remain such as he is all his life. The first requirement, the first condition, the first test for one who wishes to work on himself is to change his appreciation of himself. He must not imagine, not simply believe or think, but see things in himself which he has never seen before, see them actually. His appreciation will never be able to change as long as he sees nothing in himself. And in order to see, he must learn to see; this is the first initiation of man into self-knowledge.
First of all, he has to know what he must look at. When he knows, he must make efforts, keep his attention, look constantly with persistence. Only through maintaining his attention, and not forgetting to look, one day, perhaps, he will be able to see. If he sees one time he can see a second time, and if that continues he will no longer be able not to see. This is the state to be looked for, it is the aim of our observation; it is from there that the true wish will be born, the irresistible wish to become: from cold we shall become warm, vibrant; we shall be touched by our reality.
Today we have nothing but the illusion of what we are. We think too highly of ourselves. We do not respect ourselves. In order to respect myself, I have to recognize a part in myself which is above the other parts, and my attitude toward this part should bear witness to the respect that I have for it. In this way I shall respect myself. And my relations with others will be governed by the same respect.
You must understand that all the other measures-talent, education, culture, genius-are changing measures, measures of detail. The only exact measure, the only unchanging, objective real measure is the measure of inner vision. I see-I see myself-by this, you have measured. With one higher real part, you have measured another lower part, also real. And this measure, defining by itself the role of each part, will lead you to respect for yourself.
But you will see that it is not easy. And it is not cheap. You must pay dearly. For bad payers, lazy people, parasites, no hope. You must pay, pay a lot, and pay immediately, pay in advance. Pay with yourself. By sincere, conscientious, disinterested efforts. The more you are prepared to pay without economizing, without cheating, without any falsification, the more you will receive. And from that time on you will become acquainted with your nature. And you will see all the tricks, all the dishonesties that your nature resorts to in order to avoid paying hard cash. Because you have to pay with your ready-made theories, with your rooted convictions, with your prejudices, your conventions, your "I like" and "I don´t like." Without bargaining, honestly, without pretending. Trying "sincerely" to see as you offer your counterfeit money.
Try for a moment to accept the idea that you are not what you believe yourself to be, that you overestimate yourself, in fact that you lie to yourself. That you always lie to yourself every moment, all day, all your life. That this lying rules you to such an extent that you cannot control it any more. You are the prey of lying. You lie, everywhere. Your relations with others-lies. The upbringing you give, the conventions-lies. Your teaching-lies. Your theories, your art-lies. Your social life, your family life-lies. And what you think of yourself-lies also.
But you never stop yourself in what you are doing or in what you are saying because you believe in yourself. You must stop inwardly and observe. Observe without preconceptions, accepting for a time this idea of lying. And if you observe in this way, paying with yourself, without self-pity, giving up all your supposed riches for a moment of reality, perhaps you will suddenly see something you have never before seen in yourself until this day. You will see that you are different from what you think you are. You will see that you are two. One who is not, but takes the place and plays the role of the other. And one who is, yet so weak, so insubstantial, that he no sooner appears than he immediately disappears. He cannot endure lies. The least lie makes him faint away. He does not struggle, he does not resist, he is defeated in advance. Learn to look until you have seen the difference between your two natures, until you have seen the lies, the deception in yourself. When you have seen your two natures, that day, in yourself, the truth will be born.
None of us are capable of really seeing ourselves on our own. We need the help of others. We cannot measure ourselves.
In the light of the above text, what does it really mean when you say '"I don't need anyone to tell me 'what to do'"?
altamash said:The day i made this post and met with the responses, i went out, 4am in the morning for some tea and a cigarette. I kept contemplating about the responses in this thread and i asked the C's: Do the Cassiopaean's think this thread was not 'worth it' ? and immediately after i went over to my bike, sat down and i had a glass of tea in my left hand and the cigarette in the right, right then the bike tipped over and i fell crashing down. Imagine the 'glass' as something that is 'filled' and imagine the ciggarette as something that simply destroys or burns. Part of the tea spilled over indicating 'loss of positive polarity'.
i hope that explains everything.
and please forgive me
I am curious why you see the tea being spilled as a 'loss of positive polarity'? Do you think you had something positive to lose?
I would say that when you arrived, yes, "your cup was full". You thought you had figured out some secrets. There was no room inside to accept the ideas from others. Hey, you're not alone! But the cup has to be emptied before it can be filled again.
If you can really see this, then it is a good place to start.