alkhemst said:I came across a presentation that submits the Papacy is still at it, and has a lot more power than is widely thought to have. I went to a local market for food shopping and some guy was giving away free DVD's. I took one about secret societies, it sounded interesting. The video was saying how the Papacy is the institution invested in causing chaos the world over - sometimes overtly, but more importantly and more frequently covertly as a way to consolidate power.
Have you read Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed? He shows how the Zionists (and those groups before, ie Talmudists, priests, etc.) have wanted worldwide revolutions to destroy nations and religions so that they could, then, take control of the world. He does have some good references to back him up.
I think that if we just keep in mind that it is the psychopaths of the world who want this, we would be very close to the truth. They infest and use whichever groups get them closer to their goals (and right now, the Zionists are loaded with them). And, since it has been going on for a verrrrrrry looooong time, I can't help but think that 4D STS has their paws in it leading the whole thing.