C's Discription of 7th Density

[Myth of Myself]

Hello All,

I was pondering tonight the C's describing themselves as 6th density beings upon the "ladder/density" of awareness in the channeled sessions. I was curious as to how they could "define" what 7th density is without having achieved it as of yet in their own development or journey.

Granted that in consideration of viewing reality within the C's frame of explanation, my perceptions are limited to 3rd density "awareness" to even converse on this matter succinctly, but how could a density be defined or described if it hasn't been experienced?

It would be like us attempting to describe the parameters and function of 4th density which has yet to be experienced by us. Are we qualified to speak of a level of density which we have yet to experience?

In this line of reasoning I find it interesting to consider the possibility that there are infinite densities. And perhaps upon the expansion of our consciousness and way past the concept of "ourselves", what we once considered to be the "end of the road" or the final destination or density in the journey, experience suddenly opens up into an unfathomable expanse of new lessons, in ways and means that cannot be contained in communication as we know it.

I don't know, just curious as to other people's thoughts about this view........

 

[Laura]

I'm wondering why you aren't more concerned with learning the lessons of 3rd density?

As for the Cs - if you read the transcripts carefully, you understand that 6th density is the level of full knowledge and awareness of all densities that is active because it is "bi-directional." The same knowledge exists at 7th density, but there it is passive.

 

[Myth of Myself]

I'm wondering why you aren't more concerned with learning the lessons of 3rd density?

As for the Cs - if you read the transcripts carefully, you understand that 6th density is the level of full knowledge and awareness of all densities that is active because it is "bi-directional." The same knowledge exists at 7th density, but there it is passive.

Who is to say I'm not concerned with the lessons of 3rd density? That wasn't the subject of this thread.

Could you post or reference the session number that you are referring to with,
"- if you read the transcripts carefully,"?

Thanks

 

[PepperFritz]

Who is to say I'm not concerned with the lessons of 3rd density?

Laura's comment is probably related to the resistance to learning that you have been demonstrating in the "Voting" thread, and your continued refusal to answer the questions posed to you in that there, despite repeated requests that you do so.

That wasn't the subject of this thread.

The above statement is further indication that you do yet not understand how things work around here. Forum members will respond to you within the context of what they have observed about your behaviour and communications as a whole -- and not just within the parameters to which you wish them to limit their comments.

Could you post or reference the session number that you are referring to with,
"- if you read the transcripts carefully,"?

I doubt that there is one specific session that neatly sums up the nature of sixth density as described by Laura -- hence her advice that you read the transcripts as a whole to get a better sense of the concept. However, I will do a search of the transcripts and try to find some relevant passages, and post them here later -- unless someone else beats me to the punch....

 

[Jacques]

Hi Myth of Myself,

Read carefully the post of PepperFritz.

If you do not answer the questions that forum members are asking you, you may stay in the mode "Myth of Myself". If you want to loose that illusion, you have to work on yourself and it is not always that easy. Be sure that your predator will not like it.

But if you want to awaken, there is no easy way.

I might be way out but your answer to Laura's post seems to me a little bit "on the defensive mode". Why?

A: Corrections and clarifications needed: "Dead Dudes" are 5th density beings. Either they are stuck in 3rd density, or they are communicating from 5th density, not 3rd density!! They are not 3rd density! 1st density includes all physical matter below the level of consciousness. 6th density is uniform in the level pattern of lightness, as there is complete balance on this density level, and the lightness is represented as knowledge. 7th density is union with the one... it is timeless in every sense of the word, as its "essence" radiates through all that exists in all possible awareness realms. The light one sees at the termination of each conscious physical manifestation is the union, itself. Remember, 4th density is the first that includes variable physicality!! Ponder this carefully!!! And, remember, there is only one "God," and that the creator includes all that is created and vice versa!


Q: Okay, I am purging. All just simply is. At 7th density there is union with the One. At 6th density there is... what? An equal balance of dark and light, or being and non-being, is that correct?
A: Pure consciousnesses no need to physicalise.

 

[Myth of Myself]

Hey Namaste and Pepperfritz,

Why would she assume or imply that I'm not concerned with the lessons of 3rd density just because I asked a question about 7th density? This seems to me to be rather "defensive" and "judgemental" for no reason.

Obviously we are All still "learning" the lessons of "3rd" density, but does that mean we shouldn't question or discuss any of the concepts presented in the sessions that are "outside" of 3rd density?

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the purpose of this section of the forum was to discuss the material and post any reasonable question we may have about it.

As far as the "Voting thread" you guys are referring to, I took Oxajil's advice with:

"So if you want; try to answer the questions asked in this forum. Or try to answer them to yourself, you don't have to necessarily post them here if you don't want to, but try to analyze everything you do and think."

 

[Beau]

Hey Namaste and Pepperfritz,

Why would she assume or imply that I'm not concerned with the lessons of 3rd density just because I asked a question about 7th density? This seems to me to be rather "defensive" and "judgemental" for no reason.

Perhaps her question was more of a nudge, to you personally, that focusing on these questions was a bit premature? I think it was an act of kindness, not judgment, because that kind of nudge is done with your posting resume in mind.

As far as the "Voting thread" you guys are referring to, I took Oxajil's advice with:

"So if you want; try to answer the questions asked in this forum. Or try to answer them to yourself, you don't have to necessarily post them here if you don't want to, but try to analyze everything you do and think."

Sounds like you took the first opportunity given to get out of answering the questions posed to you. Numerous people have asked you to answer, yet once ONE person says you don't necessarily have to, you jump at the chance to duck out of view.

 

[Jacques]

Why would she assume or imply that I'm not concerned with the lessons of 3rd density just because I asked a question about 7th density? This seems to me to be rather "defensive" and "judgemental" for no reason.

Laura never said that you were not concerned. She said

I'm wondering why you aren't more concerned with learning the lessons of 3rd density?

"So if you want; try to answer the questions asked in this forum. Or try to answer them to yourself, you don't have to necessarily post them here if you don't want to, but try to analyze everything you do and think."

If you do not answer these questions on the forum, how can you be sure that your answers are correct and they are not given by your predator.

The group has the ability to see a lot better than just ourselves. Therefore, the advice of the group is very helpful.

As G said, a person alone can not awaken. We need the group to be able to wake up. It is your choice.

 

[JonnyRadar]

hi Myth,

Granted that in consideration of viewing reality within the C's frame of explanation, my perceptions are limited to 3rd density "awareness" to even converse on this matter succinctly, but how could a density be defined or described if it hasn't been experienced?

IMO, you had it before you put the word "but" in there... our perceptions are limited to third density awareness. i don't think this means we shouldn't ask questions or openly wonder, what i think it means is that we have a LOT of work ahead of us to even come close to understanding this place, this world we live in.

would you want to try to rebuild a motor engine without first understanding the mechanics of it? or how to construct a circuit board without courses in electrical engineering?

 

[Oxajil]

"So if you want; try to answer the questions asked in this forum. Or try to answer them to yourself, you don't have to necessarily post them here if you don't want to, but try to analyze everything you do and think."

If you do not answer these questions on the forum, how can you be sure that your answers are correct and they are not given by your predator.

The group has the ability to see a lot better than just ourselves. Therefore, the advice of the group is very helpful.

As G said, a person alone can not awaken. We need the group to be able to wake up. It is your choice.

What I meant was that he didn't have to answer them if he doesn't want to and this feeling of ''not wanting to'' I asked him to observe ('try to analyze everything you do and think'). It seems, however, that he doesn't really want to Work on himself (the reason for this is I think because of lack of knowledge; I assumed that he might know what I was talking about, but apparently I was wrong and he misunderstood, it doesn't mean I think that he doesn't want to do the Work, because when he will have some basic knowledge of the human-'machine' he might want to do the Work), so it seems that my advice was not really proper in that situation. So I apologize for giving such advice.

I agree that a group might see things than one person can't see him/herself, especially if one wants to do the Work. To be honest, I'm not sure if Myth Of Myself even knows anything about the Work (see quote #1), the Cassiopaeans and whatnot. To be honest, I think where Myth of Myself should start is by doing something. I think that many questions can be covered by reading the Wave or Adventure series for example and if one still has a question, then of course you can ask that. But if you keep asking and nothing comes from your side, then it's a worthless road; a one-way-road. I don't think that MoM realizes that well yet about the Work on oneself, I don't think that he recognizes for example the many I's and that mirrors from others are important.

I think the best thing to do is: answering the questions, however, if he still refuses, then the best thing for him to do is to read In Search of The Miraculous by P.D. Ouspensky first and then come back and answer the questions, because then he might realize or SEE what we've been trying to say/show him all along. These might be wild assumptions, but this is what I conclude from his posts so far.

quote #1:

When you refer to "the work" over and over, it reminds me a bit of when I was a child growing up in the South where people made similar statements to the "good book" over and over as if to say it's truth is an established fact.

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I will be more open to observing my intentions and actions and where the motivations for both are coming from.

You can't ''grow'' without knowledge of the self, which contains in Psychology books that are advised here. Not to forget: In Search of The Miraculous! You can keep observing and observing, but how do you know if you are observing in the right way? What will you do with your observations?

If you don't know much about the Work or Working on oneself, then you will keep misunderstanding most of what we say about your 'behavior'. You will react to these reactions like 'You don't know me, you would know me if we would talk face to face'. And of course you will misinterpret us if you don't understand all the concepts that we use. So my advice would be to start reading 'In Search of The Miraculous' and the same time being active here (for example : trying to react on other posts or answer the questions asked by others / asking questions about the material you are reading).

 

[webglider]

I was pondering tonight the C's describing themselves as 6th density beings upon the "ladder/density" of awareness in the channeled sessions. I was curious as to how they could "define" what 7th density is without having achieved it as of yet in their own development or journey.

As for the Cs - if you read the transcripts carefully, you understand that 6th density is the level of full knowledge and awareness of all densities that is active because it is "bi-directional." The same knowledge exists at 7th density, but there it is passive.

Notice, Myth Of Myself, Laura did answer your question. However, before answering it, she said this:

I'm wondering why you aren't more concerned with learning the lessons of 3rd density?

To which you responded:

Who is to say I'm not concerned with the lessons of 3rd density? That wasn't the subject of this thread.

Could you post or reference the session number that you are referring to with,
"- if you read the transcripts carefully,"?

If Laura is shifting the focus of the thread in another direction, it's for a reason.

I can't speak for Laura, but after reading "Could you post or reference the session number that you are referring to with - "if you read the transcripts carefully," I come to the conclusion that you are not. And what is up with that remark if you read the transcripts carefully"?

Why in the world would you phrase your desire for information as a demand? First you ignore a question, and then you demand a response to your own question. No one here has to answer your questions. And it is a little snide to add "if you read the transcripts carefully." It's rude. It's confrontational. It's aggressive.

And yet, despite the fact that you haven't answered questions asked of you, Pepperfritz writes:

I doubt that there is one specific session that neatly sums up the nature of sixth density as described by Laura -- hence her advice that you read the transcripts as a whole to get a better sense of the concept. However, I will do a search of the transcripts and try to find some relevant passages, and post them here later -- unless someone else beats me to the punch....

and Namaste found a quote that might answer your question:

Quote

A: Corrections and clarifications needed: "Dead Dudes" are 5th density beings. Either they are stuck in 3rd density, or they are communicating from 5th density, not 3rd density!! They are not 3rd density! 1st density includes all physical matter below the level of consciousness. 6th density is uniform in the level pattern of lightness, as there is complete balance on this density level, and the lightness is represented as knowledge. 7th density is union with the one... it is timeless in every sense of the word, as its "essence" radiates through all that exists in all possible awareness realms. The light one sees at the termination of each conscious physical manifestation is the union, itself. Remember, 4th density is the first that includes variable physicality!! Ponder this carefully!!! And, remember, there is only one "God," and that the creator includes all that is created and vice versa!


Q: Okay, I am purging. All just simply is. At 7th density there is union with the One. At 6th density there is... what? An equal balance of dark and light, or being and non-being, is that correct?
A: Pure consciousnesses no need to physicalise.

To which you respond by writing:

Hey Namaste and Pepperfritz,

Why would she assume or imply that I'm not concerned with the lessons of 3rd density just because I asked a question about 7th density? This seems to me to be rather "defensive" and "judgemental" for no reason.

Obviously we are All still "learning" the lessons of "3rd" density, but does that mean we shouldn't question or discuss any of the concepts presented in the sessions that are "outside" of 3rd density?

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the purpose of this section of the forum was to discuss the material and post any reasonable question we may have about it.

As far as the "Voting thread" you guys are referring to, I took Oxajil's advice with:

"So if you want; try to answer the questions asked in this forum. Or try to answer them to yourself, you don't have to necessarily post them here if you don't want to, but try to analyze everything you do and think."

How about "Thank you" Pepperfritz and Namaste? How about externally considering others?

How about answering questions put to you?

Do you have any idea how you present yourself in your posts?

 

[PepperFritz]

Hey Namaste and Pepperfritz,
Why would she assume or imply that I'm not concerned with the lessons of 3rd density just because I asked a question about 7th density?

I already answered that question, as follows:

Laura's comment is probably related to the resistance to learning that you have been demonstrating in the "Voting" thread, and your continued refusal to answer the questions posed to you in that there, despite repeated requests that you do so.

The above statement is further indication that you do yet not understand how things work around here. Forum members will respond to you within the context of what they have observed about your behaviour and communications as a whole -- and not just within the parameters to which you wish them to limit their comments.

Could you please specify what part of my answer you did not understand. As far as I can see, it's pretty clear and straightforward. But perhaps I'm missing something....?

 

[Myth of Myself]

You did already answer the question Pepperfritz, with your previous post. My bad.

 

[Bernhard]

I can't speak for Laura, but after reading "Could you post or reference the session number that you are referring to with - "if you read the transcripts carefully," I come to the conclusion that you are not. And what is up with that remark if you read the transcripts carefully"?

Why in the world would you phrase your desire for information as a demand? First you ignore a question, and then you demand a response to your own question. No one here has to answer your questions. And it is a little snide to add "if you read the transcripts carefully." It's rude. It's confrontational. It's aggressive.

Just to clarify, it seems to me that MoM was simply quoting Laura when he said :"if you read the transcripts carefully" and asking to the source of the transript:

I'm wondering why you aren't more concerned with learning the lessons of 3rd density?

As for the Cs - if you read the transcripts carefully , you understand that 6th density is the level of full knowledge and awareness of all densities that is active because it is "bi-directional." The same knowledge exists at 7th density, but there it is passive.

It comes to my attention, webglider, that you at times don't seem to read certain threads correctly and "ignore" certain things as well and hence come to conclusions/judgments too fast. The same happened in the "voting" thread where I was making you aware of a similar point: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=10606.30 and it initiated a snow ball effect of misunderstandings.

That doesn't mean that anything MoM said or his tone is justified. This I say regardless of the issue with MoM. I'm simply pointing out a re-occurring issue that had caught my eye and I'm suggesting to be more observant about this. It would help to minimize misunderstandings and also not create new ones.

 

[Beau]

I'm simply pointing out a re-occurring issue that had caught my eye and I'm suggesting to be more observant about this. It would help to minimize misunderstandings and also not create new ones.

Actually, I don't think that's all you are doing. The fact that you bring this up as someone else's issues are being discussed makes it seem more like a deflection. Perhaps you are unaware of this, maybe you subconsciously are trying to take the focus off Myth. The point is that their is a time and place to point out your observations, and the timing and placement of this particular one has me wondering how objective you really are with respect to Myth of Myself. Basically, you need to stop and think about why you feel the need to act like his big brother on this forum(and that IS what you are doing!). Cuz in the end, that will only hinder his development.