C's Discription of 7th Density

[Bernhard]

I'm simply pointing out a re-occurring issue that had caught my eye and I'm suggesting to be more observant about this. It would help to minimize misunderstandings and also not create new ones.

Actually, I don't think that's all you are doing. The fact that you bring this up as someone else's issues are being discussed makes it seem more like a deflection. Perhaps you are unaware of this, maybe you subconsciously are trying to take the focus off Myth. The point is that their is a time and place to point out your observations, and the timing and placement of this particular one has me wondering how objective you really are with respect to Myth of Myself. Basically, you need to stop and think about why you feel the need to act like his big brother on this forum(and that IS what you are doing!). Cuz in the end, that will only hinder his development.

Hi Pinkerton. Thank you for your input. In light of my relation to MoM I can understand what you think.
However, the misquotation by webglider seemed so obvious to me and I didn't understand why no one did mention it at all. I knew that if I'd say something I'd get a reply similar as to yours, but I took the chance. You're right with the fact that it came from me may give the impression that I was trying to deflect, but it wasn't consciously (and I'm not ruling out that this was a subconscious drive). I knew this is how it could have been perceived, so in retrospect it would have been better to wait and see, maybe someone else would have seen the misquotation eventually. As I said, it just came to my attention that it was not the first time webglider did that, so I wanted to make her aware of it. I tried to make sure that it didn't seem that I was deflecting from the issue at hand by writing:

"That doesn't mean that anything MoM said or his tone is justified. This I say regardless of the issue with MoM"

Sorry, if it didn't come across that way. I better stay out of this completely, for there seems to be a conflict of subjectivity vs. objectivity in me.

 

[Mountain Crown]

After reading this and the voting thread it seems that the issues regarding MoM's posts are like the struggle one would encounter by learning to swim by merely jumping in the deep end. Many of us participated as silent viewers before posting and read volumes of material on the related sites as well. On many occasions the Mods and forum members advised newcomers to read before posting.

Just an observation, fwiw.

 

[anart]

Hi Pinkerton. Thank you for your input. In light of my relation to MoM I can understand what you think.
However, the misquotation by webglider seemed so obvious to me and I didn't understand why no one did mention it at all.

That's likely becuase the misquotation is not the crux of the matter. Myth's attitude and behavior is - and the attitude and behavior stand whether webglider misquoted or not.

I knew that if I'd say something I'd get a reply similar as to yours, but I took the chance.

Why did you 'take the chance' - your 'knowing' this would happen was, perhaps, a warning to yourself, yet you went ahead anyway and engaged in what amounts to legalistic nitpicking. The misquote is not the point - yet, you just had to point it out.

You're right with the fact that it came from me may give the impression that I was trying to deflect, but it wasn't consciously (and I'm not ruling out that this was a subconscious drive). I knew this is how it could have been perceived, so in retrospect it would have been better to wait and see, maybe someone else would have seen the misquotation eventually.

Most people who are not emotionally invested in how Myth is perceived would understand that the misquote was not really relevant - it's not the crux of the matter.

As I said, it just came to my attention that it was not the first time webglider did that, so I wanted to make her aware of it. I tried to make sure that it didn't seem that I was deflecting from the issue at hand by writing:

"That doesn't mean that anything MoM said or his tone is justified. This I say regardless of the issue with MoM"

Sorry, if it didn't come across that way. I better stay out of this completely, for there seems to be a conflict of subjectivity vs. objectivity in me.

It's also relevant that the two threads in which you 'needed' to point this out to webglider were threads in which Myth was being called on his/her behavior. It doesn't appear to be a conflict of subjectivity and objectivity, Bernhard, there seems to be little objectivity at all.

 

[Bernhard]

I understand now, anart. I simply tried to explain why I did what I did and in retrospect all the the points you and Pinkerton addressed are correct.
There were many misperceptions and hasty subjective judgments/actions on my part. Thank you for making me aware of it.