CT Elementary School Shooting

[Aliana]

One of the big blocks on the road to globalization is an armed society such as in the USA. That scares the psychos in power sh*less.

I seriously doubt that. True freedom cannot be protected by guns because true freedom cannot be threatened by guns.

I think the psychos in power love trigger-happy people with guns because they're so easy to manipulate.

Obviously! There is so much MSM outrage and wringing of hands every time this happens and yet nothing ever changes. I have to think there is a reason why. The gun control issue always erupts again, but there are so many other things wrong in this sick society. None of the other issues are ever addressed, such as the violence on television and in movies, horrific video games, the endless printing of really gruesome true crime novels, etc. The list seems endless.

It's actually painful to sit through the movie trailers now - even if you go to a rather benign movie, you still have to sit through some really frightening scenes from trailers, commercials for violent video games and commercials for equally horrible network/cable TV.

And of course the number of soldiers returning from tours of combat in the endless war of terror with post-traumatic stress who are being drugged with multiple pharmaceuticals while being denied adequate care. Add to that, the general drugging of the population with dangerous pharma drugs and no real psychological help for the continual stresses everyone is facing these days.

It seems to me that if there was any real incentive for the PTB to make changes or if any of them had any capacity to care - some of this would have changed by now. But of course, it fits their psychopathic end game. I also agree that this was probably another Manchurian candidate shooting.

This has been one of the saddest days - just when I think things have reached the epitome of darkness..more just keeps coming. I need to do some more pipe breaths!!! :(

 

[Nook]

What a tragedy. This is just atrocious.

And that Obama...I didn't detect a hint of emotion on his face. It looked like he was just cleaning goo out of the corner of his eye.

That's what I was thinking. His lame faked gestures are just disgusting and enraging. But the worse part is everyone bought it.

And of course they brought up the gun control issue again. I'm also wondering why nothing happened yet but something will sooner or later. If they outlaw guns - and that date seems to approach rather rapidly - than that means that everything else or almost everything will be in place for the PTB to go through with whatever they're actually gonna go through with, osit.

 

[neema]

This to me has all the hallmarks of a programed patsy.

I actually think this serves several agendas, if it's not a case of a Manchurian candidate type gone off too early.

First agenda that comes to mind is the gun control theme. I actually think the PTB want some sort of civil war with the gun crazy fanatics. That way if things are made to look bad marshal law can finally be implemented and even begged for and welcomed by the rest of the population. Remember what the Cs said, once they get you “violent” they know what to do.

Another agenda IMO, is to convince the public that no mall, no theater, and no school is safe, unless you accept and demand TSA style molestation centers. “See we need to violate and humiliate you and your children, for your safety... demand it”.

I think the PTB are very desperate, even scared. More and more people are seeing through the cracks. There are daily reports of fire in the sky, news about harsh storms and volcanoes, unprecedented cold snaps, mass protests and now its even easier for people to see the absolute corruption. The cases of HSBC banksters and the Hostess mob job being recent examples.

If they are admitting this openly, then let's assume that at some level “they” have a supercomputer that analyzes massive amounts of info about all of the population. It analyzes the trends, the buying habits, the general mood and comments of the masses and many more intimate details of all the population. Then it gives "them" predictions on what are the possible outcomes and potentialities of mass awakening. Sort of like trying to predict the butterfly effect and kind of throwing a wrench into the mix to stop or delay the inevitable.

IMO, currently if there are people in the masses questioning “their” government or are on the verge of starting to see things that are contrary to the MSM, those people will get scared and shut down and run right back into the arms of “their” government.

It's a classic mob tactic, “they” are telling everyone “we can get you and your children, better shut up and mind your own business”.

Fwiw.

 

[Nook]

And here's the DailMail's conclusion of Obama's speech:
_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248307/Sandy-Hook-shooting-Barack-Obama-signals-push-gun-control-Connecticut-massacre.html

[quote author=DailyMail.co.uk]

Barack Obama signals he will push for gun control after Connecticut massacre, calling for 'meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this'

Parents across the nation have begun calling for more security at their children's schools
Concerned mothers and fathers lined up early to pick their little one up when class got out today
Obama has previously shied away from the gun control debate but signaled today that he would begin pushing for renewed limits on firearms
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a prominent gun control advocate, criticized Obama and said the nation needed new gun laws to stop violence

Wiping away tears as he spoke, President Barack Obama today signaled he would push for tight gun control in the wake of the massacre of 26 at an elementary school in Connecticut, saying there had been 'too many' mass shootings in America.

During a moving appearance, he said the time had come to 'take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.'

Obama struggled for words, pausing several times as he wept and described the ‘beautiful little kids between the ages of five and ten years old’ slaughtered in the school massacre in Connecticut.

Seldom has a head of state expressed greater public emotion in modern times. White House aides held hands and also wept as they sat in the briefing room named after James Brady, the press aide wounded in 1981 when President Ronald Reagan was shot and who later became the nation's leading gun control advocate.
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Watching the video again and again, the 'wiping away of tears' seems like he actually read it off the paper and tried to make it seem 'spontaneous', it actually looks like he was thinking 'Oh, right, wipe your eyes now' and 'dramatic pause', etc..

'take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.'

Meaning the right to bear arms will soon only apply to Grizzlies? osit

 

[Voyageur]

Just catching up on this and noticed that the mother, Nancy, was the owner of the three guns (there was mention of other weapons in the school too) a "Glock and a Sig Sauer — as well as a .223-calibre semi-automatic rifle [in a car]"

Something about this does not fit the profile being reported of a substitute kindergarten teacher; there seems to be a type of repeating MO to this ugly event.

Law enforcement officials told NBC News the guns were registered in the name of his mother, Nancy Lanza, a school teacher. Lanza shot her to death before taking his own life.

_http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1302750--connecticut-school-shooting-as-america-mourns-action-demanded-on-gun-control

 

[knowledge_of_self]

Law enforcement officials told NBC News the guns were registered in the name of his mother, Nancy Lanza, a school teacher. Lanza shot her to death before taking his own life.

_http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1302750--connecticut-school-shooting-as-america-mourns-action-demanded-on-gun-control

And how easy would it be for the government to fake those registrations? How do we know what's the truth anymore?

Imo the whole gun control thing is ridiculous. People who are 'set off' or MK Ultra or just plain crazy will kill people or try and kill people with anything if they want to. Just as the guy in China demonstrated on the same day as this shooting by slashing 22 children. What's important is the issues of the diets/GMO's, all the toxicity in the environment, WiFi/cellphones etc etc..

If they really want to get to the root of the problem that's where they should start, not outlawing guns. But of course they don't want that!

Besides, considering how many years guns have been available and how many people own guns in the States, they can try and outlaw it but guns wont go away. Most Americans don't just own one gun either, they own several. Just do the math..

 

[seek10]

And how easy would it be for the government to fake those registrations? How do we know what's the truth anymore?

Imo the whole gun control thing is ridiculous. People who are 'set off' or MK Ultra or just plain crazy will kill people or try and kill people with anything if they want to. Just as the guy in China demonstrated on the same day as this shooting by slashing 22 children. What's important is the issues of the diets/GMO's, all the toxicity in the environment, WiFi/cellphones etc etc..

October 5, 1996

A: The programming is mainly intended to produce erratic behavior, for the purpose of “spooking” the population so that they will welcome, and even demand, a totalitarian government.

 

[seek10]

6. Father Lanza : It looks lanza’s were divorced 15 years back adam is raised by mother and ryan is raised by father.

Hmm... they are divorced in 2009. these news agencies doesn't check the truth. ( I haven't verified either )

 

[Niall]

I don't understand how a 20-year-old (autistic and/or with Asperger's syndrome, according to his brother) can fire over 100 rounds from two handguns before any of the infamously keen US police forces arrived on the scene. The most powerful weapon attributed to the shooter, the rifle, was found in the back of a car, so it seems unlikely that anyone used it.

Well, they must have heard my skepticism because they've since decided to place find three other guns at the scene.

Authorities also recovered three other guns — a Henry repeating rifle, an Enfield rifle and a shotgun. It was not clear exactly where those weapons were found.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/no-motive-for-attack-by-brilliant-but-remote-killer-8420046.html

 

[Windmill knight]

October 5, 1996

A: The programming is mainly intended to produce erratic behavior, for the purpose of “spooking” the population so that they will welcome, and even demand, a totalitarian government.

I think that says it all, guns or no guns.

One thing I don't quite understand is why Americans think that owning a gun will somehow protect their freedom. I mean, no matter how many guns you own, if they decide to arrest you or raid your house you haven't got a chance. In fact, if they target you and you have a gun they can accuse you of all sorts of nasty things, making their PR efforts easier. Suppose there is a civil war scenario and the people are fighting for their freedom with guns. How long do they realistically think they will last against the US army?

So personally, I don't think this is about taking guns away from people as such, because they don't regard guns as a threat. People who think and resist in other ways are a different story. Having said that, I think this is an interesting point:

I actually think the PTB want some sort of civil war with the gun crazy fanatics. That way if things are made to look bad marshal law can finally be implemented and even begged for and welcomed by the rest of the population. Remember what the Cs said, once they get you “violent” they know what to do.

Since the guns are there already, and people love them so much, why not use them to create a conflict and conquer? That is in the US. But in the rest of the world, such as China and the attack with a knife, people just need 'to be reminded of why they need us'.

 

[irjO]

What I thought was interesting is that the school name is Sandy and the hurricane that hit the east coast also was named Sandy, i look for references to the origin of the word, which derives from the greek alexander:

Etymologically, the name is derived from the Greek "Αλέξανδρος" (Aléxandros), meaning "defending men" or "protector of men", a compound of the verb "ἀλέξω" (alexō), "to ward off, to avert, to defend" and the noun "ἀνδρός" (andros), genitive of "ἀνήρ" (anēr), "man". It is an example of the widespread motif of Greek (or Indo-European more generally) names expressing "battle-prowess", in this case the ability to withstand or push back an enemy battle line.[citation needed]
The earliest attested form of the name is the Mycenaean Greek feminine noun a-re-ka-sa-da-ra (transliterated as Alexandra), written in Linear B syllabic script.
The name was one of the titles ("epithets") given to the Greek goddess Hera and as such is usually taken to mean "one who comes to save warriors". In the Iliad, the character Paris is known also as Alexander. The name's popularity was spread throughout the Greek world by the military conquests of King Alexander II, commonly known as "Alexander the Great". Most later Alexanders in various countries were directly or indirectly named for him.

I could not find anything valuable.. I thought maybe that could be some kind of Message but it seems just coincidence..

 

[anart]

What I thought was interesting is that the school name is Sandy and the hurricane that hit the east coast also was named Sandy,

The same thing crossed my mind yesterday, actually - since I thought Sandy was kind of an odd name for a hurricane anyway, at the time. I'm not sure if there is a symbolic connection or it's just an odd coincidence, though.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

[quote author=DailyMail.co.uk]

Barack Obama signals he will push for gun control after Connecticut massacre, calling for 'meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this'

Parents across the nation have begun calling for more security at their children's schools
Concerned mothers and fathers lined up early to pick their little one up when class got out today
Obama has previously shied away from the gun control debate but signaled today that he would begin pushing for renewed limits on firearms
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a prominent gun control advocate, criticized Obama and said the nation needed new gun laws to stop violence

Wiping away tears as he spoke, President Barack Obama today signaled he would push for tight gun control in the wake of the massacre of 26 at an elementary school in Connecticut, saying there had been 'too many' mass shootings in America.

During a moving appearance, he said the time had come to 'take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.'

Obama struggled for words, pausing several times as he wept and described the ‘beautiful little kids between the ages of five and ten years old’ slaughtered in the school massacre in Connecticut.

Seldom has a head of state expressed greater public emotion in modern times. White House aides held hands and also wept as they sat in the briefing room named after James Brady, the press aide wounded in 1981 when President Ronald Reagan was shot and who later became the nation's leading gun control advocate.
[/quote]

Barf indeed. Seriously, it looked like he had an itch. He was reading a script, obviously, and he WASN'T struggling for words. He just stopped reading for a few seconds. No tears, no change in pitch in his voice, no microexpressions of sadness or ANY emotion. Man, people are gullible.

 

[Laura]

What I thought was interesting is that the school name is Sandy and the hurricane that hit the east coast also was named Sandy,

The same thing crossed my mind yesterday, actually - since I thought Sandy was kind of an odd name for a hurricane anyway, at the time. I'm not sure if there is a symbolic connection or it's just an odd coincidence, though.

That is fascinating!

And I think Neema is right. This is about making everyone afraid of everyone else and making it clear that anyone and everyone could be considered a "domestic terrorist". The side issue is probably gun control. But this is about making everyone afraid.

I'm just sick thinking about those little kids getting murdered like this just a couple weeks before Christmas. Just think, a few minutes before all this started coming down, they were all in that state of anticipation that kids experience at the approach of the holidays. And now, not only will they never see their holidays, their families will be destroyed by this. It is a huge, huge, evil black mark on the society created by psychopaths; more than that, it is an attractor for doom added to the already sky high black marks against the psychopaths of this era.

 

[Gawan]

Well there happened this night a shooting as well in Germany supposedly a family drama (with two dead (father and partner) and the brother survived and could call the police) and the committer is on the run. Beside a family drama on the 13th in Belgium with 3 dead kids and a grievously hurt mother. So far I couldn't find any English sources.

What I thought was interesting is that the school name is Sandy and the hurricane that hit the east coast also was named Sandy,

The same thing crossed my mind yesterday, actually - since I thought Sandy was kind of an odd name for a hurricane anyway, at the time. I'm not sure if there is a symbolic connection or it's just an odd coincidence, though.

That is fascinating!

And I think Neema is right. This is about making everyone afraid of everyone else and making it clear that anyone and everyone could be considered a "domestic terrorist". The side issue is probably gun control. But this is about making everyone afraid.

There is also at the moment the German incident with the supposedly bomb found at the train station in Bonn this week, which now is said was Al-Qaida, so it adds up to the fear factor as well.

What a crazy world.