Dave McGowan's new series "Wagging the Moondoggie"

[cholas]

Thanks treesparrow. Fascinating and indeed very revealing, if not totally convincing.

We can see where Mr. McGowan got many of his ideas.

Agreed. Very worthwhile.

 

[cholas]

Just pulling on some threads relating to the video treesparrow posted. May be nothing important, but tickled my curiosity.

Towards the end of part 3(I believe), there is a quote from another astronaut/scientist, Brian O'leary, deeply involved in the Apollo missions:

O' Leary once stated that it was "remotely" possible some footage from the Apollo moon missions could have been created in a studio environment to avoid embarrassment on NASA's part. This started a controversy over O' Leary's beliefs whether the moon landings were real or not. In March 2001, O'Leary later appeared briefly in Fox TV's "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon," stating that "I can't say for sure 100%, whether these men walked on the moon. It is possible that NASA could have covered it up, just in order to cut corners, and to be the first to allegedly go to the moon." This has been a question of many hoax advocates for years but O' Leary remains quiet about the Moon program and has "no interest" in rejoining the debate.

The above is also quoted in the documentary. He seems to have been at odds with Nasa soon after the above statement, being apparently the only one to divulge such a 'secret' publicly, resigning and becoming involved in 'fringe sciences'

A remote viewing experience in 1979 and a near-death experience in 1982 initiated O’Leary’s departure from orthodox science. [...]O’Leary has acknowledged the extraterrestrial presence on Earth and its relationship to those potentially transformative technologies, and their conjoined organized suppression. O’Leary also participated in the Face on Mars issue.

Whether working for the higher echelon or possibly doing his own thinking/researching, this bit is interesting in light of the other information about him.

In 2003, O’Leary founded the New Energy Movement. Shortly after his new energy colleague Eugene Mallove was murdered in 2004, O’Leary moved to Ecuador, where he has since resided.

 

[Ketone Cop]

I just saw Vulcan's post here and thought I'd post it and revive this thread: Moon Landing

Moon Landing

At least for me, looking at issues related to nuts and bolts of known gives better insight and avoids running away with our system 2 narration related to unknown. Russia's attempt to land on Moon with Luna-25 seems to have failed. We don't know the causes of the failure yet. This is a part...

cassiopaea.org

I've thought as some have shared here that we (meaning, the PTB of the world) DID get to the moon, but possibly possibly using Tesla or other tech. And what was discovered there has been hidden from us ever since. In fact, I think there were enough people on to this that the PTB had to throw it off the rails. That's my take, anyway.

 

[The Mechanic]

Since this thread has been somewhat revived now, I wanted to add a bit to the discussion about the point made that it is remarkable that we seem to have had the tech to go to the moon in the sixties but seem to have lost it nowadays.

I've seen a couple of documentaries about the Apollo missions, and what I've seen in one of them was that after Apollo 13 mission which almost led to a loss of the crew, a nervous NASA management asked their engineers to come up with a precentage of Apollo flights that would result in the loss of the crew, due to known and unknown flaws and problems with the design. The engineers came up with a number that one in every 25 Apollo missions would fail leading to a loss of the crew. Since this was pretty much an unacceptale number for NASA management, and the moon had already been reached and stepped on at that point in time, the decision was made to run just the scheduled Apollo missions that were left, and leave it at that. At the time, the significant funding for the project was also increasingly being slashed by congress. For me this is reason enough to believe that yes, we had the tech in the sixties, but those guys were daredevils, and current moon mission planning is using a much stricter safety requirement than failing one in every 25 missions.

 

[Ketone Cop]

I find it interesting that this thread has been dormant for a dozen years, especially after McGowan died supposedly from a "turbo-cancer" after his book "Programmed To Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder" was published. I wonder if part of that was meant to bury this topic too, IF it actually happened. I've read enough about the circumstances of his death to personally wonder what actually happened there.