Did Hitler want war

sankara

Jedi Master
I found this article which comes to fuel the debate about our history. I have a little knowledge about Buchanan, so I don't know what makes him write such controversial book. Anyway it seems the kind of stuff which might have wake "patricksmcnally" up. :)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20090901/cm_uc_crpbux/op_3311160

Did Hitler Want War?

Pat Buchanan

About The Author:
Pat Buchanan has been a senior adviser to three presidents, twice a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, and the presidential nominee of the Reform Party in 2000.
Pat Buchanan – Tue Sep 1, 3:00 am ET
Creators Syndicate –

On Sept. 1, 1939,
70 years ago, the German Army crossed the Polish frontier. On Sept. 3, Britain declared war.
Six years later, 50 million Christians and Jews had perished. Britain was broken and bankrupt, Germany a smoldering ruin. Europe had served as the site of the most murderous combat known to man, and civilians had suffered worse horrors than the soldiers.
By May 1945, Red Army hordes occupied all the great capitals of Central Europe: Vienna, Prague, Budapest, Berlin. A hundred million Christians were under the heel of the most barbarous tyranny in history: the Bolshevik regime of the greatest terrorist of them all, Joseph Stalin.
What cause could justify such sacrifices?

The German-Polish war had come out of a quarrel over a town the size of Ocean City, Md., in summer. Danzig, 95 percent German, had been severed from Germany at Versailles in violation of Woodrow Wilson's principle of self-determination. Even British leaders thought Danzig should be returned.
Why did Warsaw not negotiate with Berlin, which was hinting at an offer of compensatory territory in Slovakia? Because the Poles had a war guarantee from Britain that, should Germany attack, Britain and her empire would come to Poland's rescue.
But why would Britain hand an unsolicited war guarantee to a junta of Polish colonels, giving them the power to drag Britain into a second war with the most powerful nation in Europe?

Was Danzig worth a war? Unlike the 7 million Hong Kongese whom the British surrendered to Beijing, who didn't want to go, the Danzigers were clamoring to return to Germany.

Comes the response: The war guarantee was not about Danzig, or even about Poland. It was about the moral and strategic imperative "to stop Hitler" after he showed, by tearing up the Munich pact and Czechoslovakia with it, that he was out to conquer the world. And this Nazi beast could not be allowed to do that.

If true, a fair point. Americans, after all, were prepared to use atom bombs to keep the Red Army from the Channel. But where is the evidence that Adolf Hitler, whose victims as of March 1939 were a fraction of Gen. Pinochet's, or Fidel Castro's, was out to conquer the world?
After Munich in 1938, Czechoslovakia did indeed crumble and come apart. Yet consider what became of its parts.

The Sudeten Germans were returned to German rule, as they wished. Poland had annexed the tiny disputed region of Teschen, where thousands of Poles lived. Hungary's ancestral lands in the south of Slovakia had been returned to her. The Slovaks had their full independence guaranteed by Germany. As for the Czechs, they came to Berlin for the same deal as the Slovaks, but Hitler insisted they accept a protectorate.

Now one may despise what was done, but how did this partition of Czechoslovakia manifest a Hitlerian drive for world conquest?
Comes the reply: If Britain had not given the war guarantee and gone to war, after Czechoslovakia would have come Poland's turn, then Russia's, then France's, then Britain's, then the United States.

We would all be speaking German now.

But if Hitler was out to conquer the world — Britain, Africa, the Middle East, the United States, Canada, South America, India, Asia, Australia — why did he spend three years building that hugely expensive Siegfried Line to protect Germany from France? Why did he start the war with no surface fleet, no troop transports and only 29 oceangoing submarines? How do you conquer the world with a navy that can't get out of the Baltic Sea?
If Hitler wanted the world, why did he not build strategic bombers, instead of two-engine Dorniers and Heinkels that could not even reach Britain from Germany?
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Why did he let the British army go at Dunkirk?

Why did he offer the British peace, twice, after Poland fell, and again after France fell?

Why, when Paris fell, did Hitler not demand the French fleet, as the Allies demanded and got the Kaiser's fleet? Why did he not demand bases in French-controlled Syria to attack Suez? Why did he beg Benito Mussolini not to attack Greece?
Because Hitler wanted to end the war in 1940, almost two years before the trains began to roll to the camps.
Hitler had never wanted war with Poland, but an alliance with Poland such as he had with Francisco Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy, Miklos Horthy's Hungary and Father Jozef Tiso's Slovakia.

Indeed, why would he want war when, by 1939, he was surrounded by allied, friendly or neutral neighbors, save France. And he had written off Alsace, because reconquering Alsace meant war with France, and that meant war with Britain, whose empire he admired and whom he had always sought as an ally.

As of March 1939, Hitler did not even have a border with Russia. How then could he invade Russia?
Winston Churchill was right when he called it "The Unnecessary War" — the war that may yet prove the mortal blow to our civilization.
Pat Buchanan's book on the causes of World War II, "Churchill, Hitler and 'The Unnecessary War,'" can be purchased through amazon.com at http://tinyurl.com/nnyexu. To find out more about Patrick Buchanan, and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the C
 
Hello Sankara,

Interesting thematic, I was wondering the same (and not only about Hitler, there are many more history secrets that waits to be revealed), but than C's said about Hitler, as much I remembered: "Hitler was most manipulated leader, in recent history and manipulations were organized in 4d sts", perhaps we should not look for logicall explanations of Hitler deeds because if he was just a plane marionette manipulated by 4th density Drahmonides (Lizzie's) and again if WW2 and Hitlers deeds were: "test of free will on the earth and general probe for future to come" said by C's, than is much easier to understand anomalies and illogical approach of Hitler's plans, he simply did whatever he was programmed to do, if there was no Hitler, 4d will probably found someone else suitable for the same thing.

regards,

Juba
 
Hello Juba,

Hitler may not be the only thematic here. There has been interesting threads in here about recent XXth century history wars and the course of history. I don't think about "anomalies and illogical approach of Hitler's plans" but rather how this could fit in the pictures drawn by the Red Simphony and other controversial texts.

That is to say, concentrate less on Hitler (it's not about a reabilitation, I agree Hitler was manipulated) and more on the whole picture of that time, and mainly in the backstage. On the scene were our elders and ancestors...

I would like to know more about who were pulling the strings and have never answer (responsability meaning being able to answer/ in french répondre) for all the sufferings and have put the blame on patsies.

Respect :)
 
Seems to me that seeing things on the level of "Did Hitler Want War?" is to fall into the trap of thinking there were good guys and bad guys. On the highest level, it is a system that needs war and that is the point that people need to understand. War is inevitable because it is an important feeding and control mechanism.

After acknowledging that point, it is interesting to analyze how it actually occurred in order to understand the specific characteristics of the system, but most authors, including Buchanan, aren't interested in objective knowledge. If they ask the question about Hitler, it is to serve a particular political agenda, in this case, to make the Brits look bad.
 
I agree with Galahad, perhaps we should concentrate on "control mechanism" from 4d more than 3d aspects of the same, no matter if Hitler is the case or some other exposed historical figure.

Greetings.
 
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