Directed energy beam fired at UFO?

bjorb

The Living Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i41Aszmbd8k

Like the description says:

Footage from the NASA Shuttle Mission STS-48 in 1991.

At 1.32 secs a light emerges from the surface of the earth and makes it's way towards the upper middle of the screen. At approx 1.45 it makes an abrupt right hand turn and at tremendously high speed disappears off into space, while at approx 1.49secs what looks like a 'tracer' originating from the surface of the Earth. Could this be the tracer to a laser type weapon, a directed energy beam type device?

I hope someone didn’t brought this up before. The video is from 1991 and it has been circulating the web for a few years.

I can't tell if it's real or not. If it is, it's interesting to say the least.
 
bjorn said:
I can't tell if it's real or not. If it is, it's interesting to say the least.

Yes. I'm usually very sceptical, but I don't have any explanation for it.
 
As this is quite an old one, I'd seen it a long time ago. The main hypothesis proposed was that these where ice particles and the thrusters firing (at 1.43) disrupts them causing them to change direction.
So that's something to consider. Having said that I did find a detailed analysis of the footage here:

_http://www.nicap.org/sts48.htm
DIGITAL VIDEO ANALYSIS OF ANOMALOUS SPACE OBJECTS

Mark J. Carlotto
5 Ryans Place, Beverly MA 01915

ABSTRACT

Video data showing multiple objects moving in unusual trajectories in space is examined. The video was captured by a camera aboard the Space Shuttle Discovery (mission STS-48) between 20:30 and 20:45 GMT on 15 September 1991 near the west coast of Australia. Digital video analysis is performed to determine if the objects in question are ice particles disturbed by a thruster firing as contended by NASA or other objects moving independently of the shuttle. Results of our analysis show that it is unlikely that a thruster firing occurred since the attitude of the spacecraft does not change. Our analysis indicates that there are two groups of correlated object motions. One group changes direction at the time of a flash, claimed by NASA to be due to a thruster firing. The other group changes direction 1.5 seconds later. Assuming the objects are roughly the same size, brightness measurements of the objects as they pass over the airglow layer near the limb suggest that the objects in the first group are farther away yet they change direction first. This behavior is inconsistent with the thruster firing hypothesis. For one of the objects known as the "target", it is shown that the only hypothesis that is consistent with the data is that the object is at or near the physical horizon. We go on to show that several other objects in the video are clearly moving in circular arcs and are thus likely to be relatively far away from the shuttle. The estimated speed of one of these objects, about 35 km/sec, is approximately the same as that of target if we assume that it is at the physical horizon. At the end of the event, the shuttle's camera pans down to reveal a number of objects moving below the shuttle. One of the objects appears to have a definite structure consisting of three lobes arranged in a triangular pattern.
 
Thanks Redfox, they certainly put a lot of good thinking in it but nothing conclusive can be said :

We believe that the measurements and analyses contained in this paper establish beyond a reasonable doubt that the objects captured in this video are not orbiter-generated debris (e.g., ice particles) disturbed by a thruster firing. However, it is beyond the scope of this paper to speculate on what they might be.


I don't get the 'energy beam' and what it appear to be an evasive manoeuvre of the glowing object at the same time. If that is some natural phenomena toying with us, they put up a good show because it awfully looks like if someone on Earth has the capability to fire at UFO's and is even able to shoot them down. Otherwise the UFO wouldn't fled.

Anyhow, I don't know.
 
bjorn said:
Thanks Redfox, they certainly put a lot of good thinking in it but nothing conclusive can be said :

We believe that the measurements and analyses contained in this paper establish beyond a reasonable doubt that the objects captured in this video are not orbiter-generated debris (e.g., ice particles) disturbed by a thruster firing. However, it is beyond the scope of this paper to speculate on what they might be.


I don't get the 'energy beam' and what it appear to be an evasive manoeuvre of the glowing object at the same time. If that is some natural phenomena toying with us, they put up a good show because it awfully looks like if someone on Earth has the capability to fire at UFO's and is even able to shoot them down. Otherwise the UFO wouldn't fled.

Anyhow, I don't know.

I saw this video a long time ago and it looks like something came too close to the earth and had a warning shot across its bow. Like an evasive maneuver was made just in the nick of time. Maybe rival STS factions :huh:
 
[quote author= Turgon]I saw this video a long time ago and it looks like something came too close to the earth and had a warning shot across its bow. Like an evasive maneuver was made just in the nick of time. Maybe rival STS factions[/quote]

Rival STS sounds plausible. Network are only natural in STO. STS is based on hierarchies and would because of it be more splintered.

Or maybe it's 4STS 'policing' other 3STS to get away from Earth

If I take into the account of so called testimonies made by people who worked in special divisions of the military tasked of cleaning up 'high strangeness' events. Crashed UFO's and the likes, it becomes obvious that this happens quite often. Maybe some just get shot down? But there is no way to be sure. It's all based on hearsay and nothing more.

I have some more speculations but after the 3D plant based life form episode from a recent session I rather don't put to much thought on it. There is an awful lot we don't know about.

And maybe the whole video is fake to begin with or not what it seems to be.
 
I still don't see why it couldn't be some small debris accelerated by the manoeuvres of ship. At those altitudes any expelled hot gas will expend rapidly and its movement will become chaotic for a short time, which could make floating objects be accelerated differently from one another. Also, if 4D UFOs travel like that in 3D outer space, their pilots must be kind of incompetent.
 
Just noticed you actually see 2 beams. One towards the 'object' and another more in the right corner.

Thinking about it and considering that all of this happened after the Shuttle directed itself through an air adjustment. It may just be something natural. I just never saw something like this before.


[quote author=mkrnhr]Also, if 4D UFOs travel like that in 3D outer space, their pilots must be kind of incompetent.[/quote]

4STS craft never really made sense to me of how they exactly operate. They don't seem to be fixed in our 'reality', only partly. It also doesn't has to be 4STS, it could be 3STS. We can be very incompetent.
 
bjorn said:
4STS craft never really made sense to me of how they exactly operate. They don't seem to be fixed in our 'reality', only partly. It also doesn't has to be 4STS, it could be 3STS. We can be very incompetent.
That's because we're 3DSTS beings, and we naturally project our actual concepts of space travel. That's why the so called Fermi paradox doesn't make sense when we take into account transdimensional reality.
 
[quote author=mkrnhr]That's because we're 3DSTS beings, and we naturally project our actual concepts of space travel[/quote]

Hence that we can’t really judge if their space travel capabilities are incompetent or not. ;) Or assume that the ''energy beam'' (If it's real?) is actually a weapon ofcourse. We can't see the total picture.


[quote author= mkrnhr]That's why the so called Fermi paradox doesn't make sense when we take into account transdimensional reality.[/quote]

Or why UFO’s have been filmed and reported to suck op water. Among a lot of other stuff. Just leaves me clueless. Just like this video.
 
bjorn said:
Hence that we can’t really judge if their space travel capabilities are incompetent or not. ;) Or assume that the ''energy beam'' (If it's real?) is actually a weapon ofcourse. We can't see the total picture.
Exactly! That's also why more plausible explanations cannot be excluded off hand.

bjorn said:
Or why UFO’s have been filmed and reported to suck op water. Among a lot of other stuff. Just leaves me clueless. Just like this video.
UFO encounters are very often absurd and confusing. An example that comes to mind is documented in "Disneyland of the Gods" by J. Keel if my memory serves me well, where a UFO was in the middle of the road, with an "alien" repairing it as if it was a car. It's called High Strangeness because it's highly strange :)
 
[quote author=mkrnhr]UFO encounters are very often absurd and confusing. An example that comes to mind is documented in "Disneyland of the Gods" by J. Keel if my memory serves me well, where a UFO was in the middle of the road, with an "alien" repairing it as if it was a car. It's called High Strangeness because it's highly strange [/quote]

The title 'Disneyland of the Gods' is really fitting. Sometimes it does appear that Earth is just some themepark for other beings who like to mess with us.

The strangest story I recall has to be this:

Eagle River Close Encounter (man given 'pancakes' by UFO occupants)

Mr. Paul Simonton, a chicken farmer in Eagle River, Wisconsin saw a disc-shaped craft land vertically on his farm. A hatch opened, and when he approached he saw three human-looking men inside. They asked him for some water. They appeared to be cooking pancakes on a griddle, and in exchange for the water they gave him four of the pancakes from griddle. The episode survived a rigorous assessment by the U.S. Air Force and is carried in their files as "unexplained."

The alleged alien pancake
EagleRiverCEIIIphoto.jpg



I just can't help noticing that they burned the pancake.

Maybe stories like this pop-up because 4STS has a way of discrediting the UFO phenomena through making people experience such 'ridicule' events? (altering reality)

It could also be made up of course. Or maybe this alien pancake story happened as was told. If so, I hope the ''directed energy weapon?'' in the video wasn't aimed at those friendly pancake loving aliens. :P
 
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