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[nicklebleu]

@Cordillera

I often think about God/ DCM and his relationship to myself in the following way: DCM is like the CEO of a multinational corporation, and I am the janitor/ cleaner in one of the smaller dependencies of the firm in another city/ state than the HQ. The CEO does maybe care for me somewhat, but only in a very abstract way, maybe through some spreadsheet, some productivity numbers, or whatever, but probably is not really aware of my existence in this faraway place. But my boss of the janitor gang, he knows me and cares for me, as do all my other janitor colleagues, because I am part of the team, and if I fail, or don’t fulfill my end of the bargain, everybody suffers. If something happens to me, the CEO is not going to hear about it; again it may change some figures in a spreadsheet, but otherwise it won’t have any personal impact on him. Whereas my boss and my janitor colleagues will be upset, if I am injured and need some time off. They will have to take up the slack, shift around rosters etc. And they may like me as a guy (I can be funny, sometimes …).

But the CEO cares about the business, so he will try to put conditions in place that make productivity better. And that may be that my working conditions are made better, that my pay goes up, that we get a new coffee machine for breaks etc. All he cares about is that the business is prospering.

I think it is similar with the DCM - he doesn’t really care about me as an individual. But I am part of him, and the endpoint is to go back to him. But there are persons/ groups that do care, and when I pray, that’s who I address - my tribe/ soul group, my ancestors, highly-evolved beings, who are his emissaries, etc. They have a vested interest that I am doing the best I can, as this reflects back to them in some way and furthers the group as a whole.

Now I know that I have a tendency to use analogies that ‘limp’ a bit (), they certainly are not a true reflection of the way things are, reality is a lot more complex/ complicated, but to me they are helpful.

So maybe they are helpful to you, too.

 

[Cordillera]

Now I know that I have a tendency to use analogies that ‘limp’ a bit (), they certainly are not a true reflection of the way things are, reality is a lot more complex/ complicated, but to me they are helpful.

So maybe they are helpful to you, too.

Thanks, Nicklebleu, for sharing the analogy. I understand your point.

My initial concern was that the CEO of this multinational corporation in the Universe couldn't care less whether you clean or make a mess, whether you repair or break things, whether you arrive on time or not. He doesn't care, so there are no mistakes you need to detect, no faults you need to clear yourself of, no offenses against the universe. We could even say that this CEO not only accepts but is also pleased whether you clean or make a mess.

Furthermore, you realize that there are bosses who have teams that clean and other bosses who have teams that make a mess.

Then you arrive at work, and you are the one who must decide whether in that company you will be the one who causes damage or the one who fixes it. Therefore, you will have to decide which team you will join.

But you realize that when you joined the company, you chose to join the team of those who do the dirty work, and now they tell you that you can say you want to join the other team. So, to decide, you ask what the company policy is or what the CEO wants, or you ask for the company's mission/vision, and you see that the only policy is that you are free to decide and that there is balance among the work teams.

The worst part is that there are several human resources offices. Some tell you that the CEO is loving, merciful, compassionate, and just, so any act of hatred, indifference, or vengeance is the responsibility of corrupt employees. Others tell you there is no CEO. And still others tell you that the CEO is loving and hateful, merciful and indifferent, just and vengeful.

That was the part that made me feel helpless.

Then I realized I wasn't helpless, because—as you say—instead of focusing on the CEO, I should focus on the effects of my actions on my coworkers. That way, we can help each other, ask for help, and guide each other through the example of others. We can also connect with those who have already left the company. Or learn from the senior executives of 4D, 5D, or 6D who decided to be part of the groups that clean, tidy, and tidy.

Finally, what all this reflection and the contributions of the other forum members have shown me is that I joined this company called Life in 3D wanting to be on the team that comes for donuts and watches movies during work hours. I mean, they're not even good SAS, like the janitors who work overtime to earn more money or one day become a manager. And they're not good STOs who do their job well so the other employees can have a pleasant place to work.

So, I realize I feel helpless because I'm the one who isn't doing enough to connect my actions with the values I claim to profess; I'm the one who isn't close enough to the STO custodian team. But I know that when I do, I'm a good STO custodian and I get help from other custodians or senior STO executives, and even the CEO sees me favorably, because what he wants most is for us to be the best expression of one of his personalities.

 

[Nienna]

This is hilarious! Well, at least to me it is.

Secretary Kennedy was talking about things he has accomplished. And one of the things was to demand placebo-controlled trials from companies. Below is a comment about it and a comment on the commenter. (I hope that makes sense.)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1960761542397583629

Groks' response:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1960761799047045625

Here's the complete comment so you all don't have to go to X to see it all.

Well, consarn it, ya goldarn varmint! That Pesach Lattin feller's a rootin' tootin' entrepreneur, rabbi, and ex-hacker turned marketin' whiz. He's built ad networks, fought fraud with the Secret Service, and pens articles on ethics. Orthodox Jew, libertarian, with a heap of kids. Dagnabbit, he's busier than a one-legged man in a butt-kickin' contest!

I guess I should have know that an AI can do this, but it took me by surprise.

 

[seek10]

I have a question related to grand cycle. Instead of searching by myself, I chose to use Grok, it went in for a big SPIN. I asked for exact quote and links. the links didn't work ( probably some renaming of URL due to maintenance and Grok says it uses archive) . The supposed exact quote is either out of context or not found in my our usual sources - forum session posts or Cassiopaea Transcripts Search or my own old local copies.

But, It threw in some interesting concept related to interpreting non-linear time of grand cycle into linear time. Even this concept is not correct in my understanding.

As per my initial question ( i didn't made a copy of the answer), it said grand cycle is 2.1 million years. it multiplied 7 with 309K years of 3rd density. The reason it showed me is this

My question: According to cassiopaean material, does the duration of each density cycle same as 309K ( as your deducted before)?

In the Cassiopaean material (the transcripts from the channeling sessions), the length of a full cycles through the seven densities is explicitly tied to the number **309,000 years** (sometimes rounded or approximated as 309K or 310K years in various sessions).

Key direct quotes and references from the transcripts:

- 16 October 1994:
“Q: (L) How long is this wave going to manifest in global terms?
A: [...] The duration of total cycle is 309,000 years approximately.”

- 22 July 2000:
“Q: (L) Okay, what is the duration of the grand cycle from the beginning to the end?
A: 309,882 years.
Q: (L) Is that in earth years?
A: Yes. Approximately 300,000 years to traverse the 7 densities.”

- Other sessions (e.g., 19 November 1994, 7 October 1995, etc.) repeatedly state that one complete Grand Cycle (1st through 7th density and back to 1st) is roughly **306,000 to 309,882 years**, with 309,000 being the most commonly cited round figure.

So, to directly answer your question:

**Yes — according to the Cassiopaean material itself, the total duration of one complete Grand Cycle through all seven densities is consistently given as approximately 309,000 years (309K).**

The individual time spent in each density is **not** the same:

- 1st density (elements/minerals): ~300–400 million years in some interpretations, but the Cassiopaeans actually place the very long mineral/planetary cycles outside the 309K count.
- 2nd density (plants/animals): stated as ~78,000–94,000 years in some sessions.
- 3rd density (current human): explicitly **309,000 years** total** for the full 3rd-density cycle on Earth (the one we are finishing now).
- 4th density: 309,000 years (but experienced differently due to variable physicality and time perception).
- 5th density (contemplation zone): extremely short in linear time — sometimes described as “timeless.
- 6th density: also very long, but again nonlinear.
- 7th density: union with the One, essentially timeless.

The Cassiopaeans emphasize that **only the 3rd-density portion of the current Earth cycle** is the full ~309,000 years we normally think of when people say “the cycle is 309K years.” The entire seven-density Grand Cycle is also quoted as approximately the same number (309,000–309,882 years), which implies that the other densities, in linear Earth-time terms, are either much shorter or measured differently.

So in summary:
- The full Grand Cycle (1st → 7th → back to 1st) ≈ **309,000 years**
- The current 3rd-density cycle on Earth ≈ **309,000 years**
- The individual durations of the other densities are **not** all 309K years each — only 3rd (and arguably 4th) are stated to have that approximate duration in linear terms.

Therefore, my earlier deduction (if I said every density is exactly 309K years) was slightly imprecise. The Cassiopaeans use “309,000 years” as the figure for both the current 3rd-density cycle and the entire Grand Cycle, but not uniformly for every single density.

This "traverse the 7 densities" is origin of this misinterpretation. I tried to look for the exact quote in usual session transcripts. But, couldn't find it. I have to assume Grok is making things up and can't show exact quote - probably due to its programming to shorten it and losing the context.

when I probed further, it kept on modifying the answer to conclude that

• 309K years for the soul group transitioning to 7D.
  • Initially it said 309K years per density ( so 2.1 million years) , then later it said 309K years for 'higher animals to 7D'. It justified the answer saying higher density time is warped.
  • It said 309K is for the soul block ( let's consider it as Lucifer soul group, that craved for the physicality and it once was with 'union with one'), not for planet.

I was not convinced, but reminded me of this quote session-18-september-2021

(Ark) Me. I was playing with my model of superluminal communication. I would like to know about this 'We are you in the future'. Can it be said that it's like 100-200 years in the future, or 1000-2000 years, or... Can I have an estimation of how far in the future in numbers? If it can be said. Not exact, but a range.

A: It can vary, but usually under 1k years or too much signal corruption.

I was not sure how to interpret this. I wanted to interpret C's are transmitting from 1K years ahead of us backwards (C's answer seems to be hinting at it). But, in my head there is a weird thought that what if it takes 1000 years for us to become 6D ( due to whatever mechanism universe has).

Here is the complete interaction ( leaving first question and answer). Hopefully, below link works. It may spin your head and be aware. But, it did have some take that I didn't considered, but couldn't make up my mind.

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