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[anart]

Ok...Thank you for your insight

Forgot to Mention I have also heard about STA (Service to all) by working on yourself you are changing your vibration and then This indirectly has an impact on the collective conciousness of those who have it and raises the vibration of others.

I think that is an erroneous newage concept. Raising the vibration of others is a violation of Free Will. It's not your place - or anyone's place - to raise the vibration of others.

Now, a person can help others raise their own vibrations, but this takes work and doesn't just happen because they're 'around' a 'higher vibration person' (though there are indications that truly awakened individuals can positively affect the course of events in a timeline - but that's really off-topic for what we're discussing) - so, all that sort of thinking that you can raise other people's vibrations is magical thinking, also known as illusion or being lost in a dream that one is awake.

This was more of what I am talking about. I believe I can more effectively/objectively take steps to be STA then be STO(Helping when asked) right now at my current being. Hopefully one day I will Have the tools to be both STA/STO. For now I will continue to develop awareness

You're getting way ahead of yourself. For now, you are a 3D STS Being who is interested in (for 3D STS reasons) becoming a 4D STO candidate. That's it. Without Knowledge of yourself and vastly increased awareness you can't "get" where you want to go, so first steps first and focus on your own understanding of yourself and how you work and how your own narcissism and co-dependence results in the opposite result of what you think you want to be doing for the people in your own life. You were on track with your observations earlier, but to wander off into airy-fairy 'service to all' delusions is to fall by the wayside, lost in a dream. This waking up is serious stuff, so back to the self-observation and learning about why you are how you are. fwiw.

 

[Nawd]

Thanks I will have to keep this in my mentation (It's not about me)

What I mean regarding lessons is how many are ment for an individual at any time- Is there one lesson for a person to learn then another one is presented once one learns the previouse lesson or is it more open than that? Many lessons all at once for an individual to figure out varying in difficulty?

Maybe you are getting a bit tripped up in this thought pattern.

Everything is a lesson: You can learn something by doing the dishes, folding laundry, sweeping the floor, driving a vehicle, etc.

In my opinion, it's the awareness of doing the mundane that helps with the learning that you might do with reading and learning who you are and how you react.

OSIT

 

[webglider]

quote=Menna

Many lessons all at once for an individual to figure out varying in difficulty?

I could be wrong, but if you're aware that you're getting many lessons at once it seems that you must be paying attention to what is happening inside of you and of your effect on those around you.

I used to think that if I did "X" that the desired result "Y" would naturally follow. Of course this caused endless suffering to myself and others.

Menna, remember when you gave advice to me about some changes I might consider making in my relationship with my daughter? Well, at that point in time when those suggestions were made, for some reason I was able to listen. Something shifted inside of that allowed me to actually SEE my daughter.

When that shift happened, because I wasn't thinking of myself but of her, I was able to act in a more appropriate way. It just happened. I was ready to listen and you were able to speak to what I needed to hear. As a result, she and I have beome closer at the same time as we are becoming independent from each other.

Maybe those moments are few and far between, or maybe it's due to some imperceptible knowing that allows such shifts to happen.

Perhaps as you become less codependent, you'll be more able to be comfortable with silence and ambiguity. This has been a really hard lesson for me - to learn to give people space and not rush in to "help." I have a "save the world" program that has caused much unhappiness for me over many years and many relationships. I learned that people are capable of saving themselves if they really want to. If they don't, there's nothing you can do.

 

[Menna]

webglider - Yes told you if she acts like adult treat like adult. Yes I feel them too the moments when we are no longer heavily asleep but then "The forces of the universe" act on us and we go back.

Thank you Anart for keeping me inline like you have many times. I will revert back to my earlier posts and advice. It is clear that I should walk the path of awareness, acquiring humility (As Foxx pointed out a few months ago I think too highly of myself at times) in my being and be vigilant as to where I end and the other begins. Thank you all

 

[Hesper]

Thank you for the clarification Menna and everyone else. I think you're right, that falling into step with the world and everyone else around us is exactly what keeps us trapped and unable to learn our lessons.

webglider - Yes told you if she acts like adult treat like adult. Yes I feel them too the moments when we are no longer heavily asleep but then "The forces of the universe" act on us and we go back.

Thank you Anart for keeping me inline like you have many times. I will revert back to my earlier posts and advice. It is clear that I should walk the path of awareness, acquiring humility (As Foxx pointed out a few months ago I think too highly of myself at times) in my being and be vigilant as to where I end and the other begins. Thank you all

Yep, anart made a great point. Helps me remember what is truly important. Thanks Menna.

 

[Sol Logos]

Forgot to Mention I have also heard about STA (Service to all)

It's maybe semantics but if you're actually helping others (STO), you're helping yourself, as we don't live in isolation from others or our environment. And if you're just doing things for self interest (STS), you're not really helping yourself much either, especially long term for the same reason. Maybe STA makes sense then, the opposite being STN (service to none)? But I get that real and for that matter helpful service to anyone (including ourselves) is difficult to just be aware of, so the semantics isn't of much importance over learning to become aware of even just ourselves for starters. So really just a language observation that for now works for me, FWIW.