Do WE have a name? Should we?

Black Swan said:
Well not 'totally off,' but not quite complete either. ;) This forum's focus is not only to search for objective truth based on the Cassiopaean Experiment but also relies on the Fourth Way Work of Georges Gurdjieff, Mouravieff, Ouspensky, with a little Castaneda thrown in as well as many modern psychological studies. If you haven't had a chance, read Anart's link above about identification. I think that will clear up any confusion you may have. :)

Or perhaps a different way of putting it would be to say that it's the process that counts - all the materials now used are valued because of the way they have proven to fit into and contribute to the process - so they are taken in relation to the process which is at the center of it all.
 
I remeber having feelings that I finally found a group that not only seemed to be on the right path, but where I also had a strong sense of belonging, especially in the sense of family.

It took me a little while to realize it's neither a hobby nor a club. Rather, it's a way of sensing, thinking and feeling that leads to a way of being. And such being will be as unique for each of us as our fingerprints.

You might find it really interesting to ask yourself why you want to belong to a group that you can name. Is there something about it that makes you feel a certain way? What does it mean for you to belong? How does it make you feel? When you figure out the feeling, see if there's a physical sensation that comes with it.

Probe and observe yourself and see what comes forth. Then, probe some more. If there's one thing I've learned, whatever comes up first, whatever is on the surface is merely the first layer that must be peeled away to get to the next, and so on.

I find such Work quite beneficial for myself.

Gonzo
 
To complement the Anart link, extract ISOTM here

" 'Identification' is so common a quality that for purposes of observation it is difficult to separate it from everything else. Man is always in a state of identification, only the object of identification changes.

"A man identifies with a small problem which confronts him and he completely forgets the great aims with which he began his work. He identifies with one thought and forgets other thoughts; he is identified with one feeling, with one mood, and forgets his own wider thoughts, emotions, and moods. In work on themselves people are so much identified with separate aims that they fail to see the wood for the trees. Two or three trees nearest to them represent for them the whole wood.

"'Identifying' is one of our most terrible foes because it penetrates everywhere and deceives a man at the moment when it seems to him that he is struggling with it. It is especially difficult to free oneself from identifying because a man naturally becomes more easily identified with the things that interest him most, to which he gives his time, his work, and his attention. In order to free himself from identifying a man must be constantly on guard and be merciless with himself, that is, he must not be afraid of seeing all the subtle and hidden forms which identifying takes.

"It is necessary to see and to study identifying to its very roots in oneself. The difficulty of struggling with identifying is still further increased by the fact that when people observe it in themselves they consider it a very good trait and call it 'enthusiasm,' 'zeal,' 'passion,' 'spontaneity,' 'inspiration,' and names of that kind, and they consider that only in a state of identifying can a man really produce good work, no matter in what sphere. In reality of course this is illusion. Man cannot do anything sensible when he is in a state of identifying. If people could see what the state of identifying means they would alter their opinion. A man becomes a thing, a piece of flesh; he loses even the small semblance of a human being that he has. In the East where people smoke hashish and other drugs it often happens that a man becomes so identified with his pipe that he begins to consider he is a pipe himself. This is not a joke but a fact. He actually becomes a pipe. This is identifying. And for this, hashish or opium are entirely unnecessary. Look at people in shops, in theaters, in restaurants;or see how they identify with words when they argue about something or try to prove something, particularly something they do not know themselves. They become greediness, desires, or words; of themselves nothing remains.

"Identifying is the chief obstacle to self-remembering. A man who identifies with anything is unable to remember himself. In order to remember oneself it is necessary first of all not to identify. But in order to learn not to identify man must first of all not be identified with himself, must not call himself 'I' always and on all occasions. He must remember that there are two in him, that there is himself, that is 'I' in him, and there is another with whom he must struggle and whom he must conquer if he wishes at any time to attain anything. So long as a man identifies or can be identified, he is the slave of everything that can happen to him. Freedom is first of all freedom from identification.
 

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