Does Jesus approve of the wheat?

[Kisito]

I tried to find it on the forum but I did not find.
About the Paleolithic diet (no wheat ...)
Why Jesus never forbidden wheat, but approves when you eat?
I wonder if someone an explanation of the Gospel of Matthew 12.1:

On the Sabbath day Jesus and his disciples walked through the wheat. The disciples were hungry and they plucked the ears of corn and ate them. When the Pharisees saw this, they rebuked this act violently, because it was the Sabbath.
Jesus said that the Sabbath was made ​​for man and not vice versa. Does that mean that hunger supersedes all laws? If Jesus never spoke of the ban on wheat, maybe this is not important and that we should concentrate more on the mind than on the body?

 

[mkrnhr]

Because the guys who invented the stories of jesus didn't know any better?

 

[Kisito]

Because the guys who invented the stories of jesus didn't know any better?

This is a good possibility

 

[obyvatel]

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If Jesus never spoke of the ban on wheat, maybe this is not important and that we should concentrate more on the mind than on the body?
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I avoid wheat because I have found that it helps me with energy and mental clarity. The body and the mind are intimately interconnected.

Have you tried being gluten free, Kisito?

 

[aaronfransen]

Better yet, perhaps the stories from/about Jesus were written by the Powers That Be at the time, and wheat was a great way to control the population...not in their best interests to have a healthy society!

 

[aragorn]

Because the guys who invented the stories of jesus didn't know any better?

This is a good possibility

Have you had the chance to read the thread Was Julius Caesar the real Jesus Christ?. Interesting read!

 

[Kisito]

Because the guys who invented the stories of jesus didn't know any better?

This is a good possibility

Have you had the chance to read the thread Was Julius Caesar the real Jesus Christ?. Interesting read!

hope you do not see any controversy in my remarks. I try in any way to attach myself to my ideas, but to better understand your. I could understand that you find my insipid questions do not answer me.

Obyvatel Yes, I made gluten -free diet and "Paleo" for a week. I am less stressed and more energy .
To answer to Aragorn, I read the thread about Jesus and Caesar and the response of Cs. I see the great corruption of the Gospels and the possibility that Jesus and Caesar were the same person. But I do not recall me Cs, thread on Caesar or the Gospels have mentioned that wheat is harmful. I do not doubt the facts of property-regime "Paleo". I put doubts about the ethical value. I know that Cs say that a vegetarian diet has less energy than the "Paleo" diet, that plants suffer like animals . But they did not say that we have to do, they just gave us opportunities ...
How can we be STO if we kill and steal other people's energy? (This is not irony).
I also wonder that the men of the Paleolithic diet could Solutrean cannibalism! And if cannibalism was considered much more energy, should we reconsider our diet?

A: But it is the soul that matters, not the body. The body dies not the soul.
Q: (L) Well, this whole thing just gives us the creeps.
A: No. You are energy. There is an energy that comes from soul and body connection; [...]

 

[Psalehesost]

How can we be STO if we kill and steal other people's energy? (This is not irony).

Did you mean kill and steal other beings' energy? Obviously, we can't be STO while doing so, since by definition that's STS. Also, as the C's point out (and as is quite obvious), we live in STS bodies - biological machines that require killing and stealing from other beings, either directly or indirectly, in order to function at all. But people can be more or less STS, and some people can get "close enough" to STO (about halfway there) to become STO candidates.

I also wonder that the men of the Paleolithic diet could Solutrean cannibalism! And if cannibalism was considered much more energy, should we reconsider our diet?

If you mean whether we should consider becoming cannibals, then err, no.

To just look at it in terms of energy:

Assuming it gave more energy, then that energy would be in excess of what we actually need. It's not the goal to consume as much energy as possible - rather, it is to consume only exactly what we need (no more and no less). So apart from the main ethical aspects of cannibalism, what you're thinking of would amount to a kind of "energetic gluttony".

However, the C's suggest that energy-wise, cannibalism would actually be less efficient: (Unless eating vegetarians perhaps, which "some dark circles" were said to do. Unless the C's were only referring to 4D STS beings, in which case it's technically not cannibalism, since they differ so much that the species is different. Unless bi-density humans are doing it, in which case it would be cannibalism. Unless... - you get the idea, this could go on - so much we don't know.)

Q: [...] (Ark) Yes, I have a question. From a higher point of view - not just ethics and such things - but from the higher philosophical point of view, what's really wrong with cannibalism? (L) What's really wrong with cannibalism? (Perceval) We may or may not publish this answer. [laughter]

A: In some instances, nothing. But in general one does not eat one's own kind for energetic reasons. Carnivores do not eat other carnivores because it is not optimal energy source.

Q: (L) In other words, we get optimal energy from eating creatures that eat vegetables. That way, we get our vegetables. But another carnivore processes all of that so that what we would get from eating another carnivore would not be optimal nutrition?

A: Yes.

Q: (Andromeda) But then we could eat vegetarians. [laughter]

A: Don't laugh! That has been the case for some groups at certain times and places. In fact, that is still the case in some dark circles extant on Earth today. As we once pointed out, higher density beings derive nourishment from some humans and human body products. Preferred are fat children and nonsmoking vegetarians.

Q: (Psyche) There are some religions that say that you have to be vegetarians. (Burma Jones) They're basically just farms for 4D STS looking for a good lunch. (Belibaste) Good food. And it's organic vegetarians usually! (PoB) Does it mean that the meat from meat-eating predators is not good for us? (L) That's what they said, yes. (Burma Jones) So then India is just one big cattle ranch. (L) And with so many people that they have there, nobody would even notice when people go missing. People go missing there all the time. (Burma Jones) And they have the worst poverty in the world. (Belibaste) Remember in the sessions they were talking about the missing children, and there was a lot from India - vegetarian children. (L) The loss of children of India is just stupendous. Unbelievable. [...]

 

[Niall]

How can we be STO if we kill and steal other people's energy?

We are not STO; we are STS in a 3DSTS world. There is an opportunity to become STO, through hard work and networking with others who want to become STO.

 

[irjO]

Obyvatel Yes, I made gluten -free diet and "Paleo" for a week. I am less stressed and more energy .

For a week? did you know that you need at least 3 month (if not more) of pure diet "gluen free" or Paleo to really start to see the results?

To answer to Aragorn, I read the thread about Jesus and Caesar and the response of Cs. I see the great corruption of the Gospels and the possibility that Jesus and Caesar were the same person.

if you read that thread plus the books you will see that it is almost a fact and not a possibility.

 

[edgitarra]

My opinion is that wheat was very popular at that time(like now). Perhaps an instrument of control to weaken the mind. And I am not so sure most people afforded foods of a higher quality, since it is even possible that even in those times there was a hierarchy of foods in comparison with status(slaves - quantitative food, rich people - qualitative food in big quantities), which is happening nowadays but on a more invisible scale, to give people impression that they have more freedom of choice.

Still what makes me wonder is how Gurdjieff managed to reach a higher level of being on foods like bread, and cheeses, also sugars and alcohol. In this particular case he wasn't very "updated", so to speak.
And also what makes me wonder is what is the purpose of cow's milk if is not indicated for human consumpution(except processing it to butter ).

 

[Kisito]

Very interesting, thank you for your answers and your time. I don't smoke, but fortunately I'm not fat :)
I know that we are 3D STS, but I feel far from becoming STO.
Wait and see...

 

[Sol Logos]

On the Sabbath day Jesus and his disciples walked through the wheat. The disciples were hungry and they plucked the ears of corn and ate them. When the Pharisees saw this, they rebuked this act violently, because it was the Sabbath.
Jesus said that the Sabbath was made ​​for man and not vice versa. Does that mean that hunger supersedes all laws? If Jesus never spoke of the ban on wheat, maybe this is not important and that we should concentrate more on the mind than on the body?

Lets suppose that the parable is one (of many) fragments of wisdom that wherever its source, survived the propaganda making of the Bible, the point I feel isn't much to do with wheat but is that man's law is without merit when it has no universal grounding. If it has no merit, the belief that working on some prescribed "holy" day will offend God is absurd, even the concept of offending God is absurd.

It's like the "separating the wheat from the chaff" saying isn't about condoning wheat consumption but its more along the lines of getting beyond the artifices and facade to objective truth or the real and universal value of things.

 

[Phill4]

I think I read it somewhere that one way soldiers were punished in ancient Greece was to deprive them from wheat.

Looking at it with the knowledge that wheat's gluten is very harmful for the body and mind, it sound very much planned and rigged that way so as to make people associate Jesus the savior with bread. He gave bread, our daily bread, corn wheat etc...
Same aplies to central america' Mayan culture where corn was planted by the 'Gods'. When corn is very toxic also.

Jesus the pastor and his obedient sheeps who gives wheat left and right, sounds like additions and distortions from his deeds even if the metaphores described in most of the bible were of a giving and benebolent character, then the lie and truth 'sandwich' (disinformation) is complete on that one.

 

[Tomiro]

From what I understand ancient wheat contained a much lower gluten content, than modern day high yield wheat. Also when the bread is thoroughly fermented, it further reduces gluten levels, so it was probably not as harmful then as it is today. Although I would not still recommend eating it.