Does moon have any affect on us ?

agni

Dagobah Resident
I have noticed that during full moon my mood plummets and I have sense of unexplained panic as well as I lose much of my sleep. I can’t figure out why, does anyone have any what the connection might be ?
 
Melantonin comes to mind-it needs darkness to be made .
Also hospitals get full on full moon, ask any ER nurse
Menstrual cycles are affected by moon cycle(are you female?)
Or if you are male you maybe affected by "your"womans cycle
if you live closely with one.
and dont forget your body is mostly water so it gets king-tides too just like the oceans and emotions are chemicals floating in your salty blood-oceans
irrational fears in chinese medicine belong to stressed kidneys and the water element Do you get enough salt?Do you drink
enough water?Do you wear too much black?(bad for kidneys,no kidding,look at the goth kids)
so you see there are lots of possibilities for being affected by the full moon I hope this helps RRR
 
did you check for light in your bedroom during full moon nights? Maybe you need is to be more isolated. If it is not because moonlight however it could be for some other reasons indeed.
 
agni said:
I have noticed that during full moon my mood plummets and I have sense of unexplained panic as well as I lose much of my sleep. I can’t figure out why, does anyone have any what the connection might be ?
Well If you consider that we are made of water at more then 60% then it is obvious moon phases will affect us in one way or another.

It seems some people feel this influence more and some less, also there are very big differences how people can be affected by the full moon,
I am for example total opposite of you, during the full moon I am usually hyperactive and high, but not every full moon is the same, certain full moons I experience in totally different ways

The only thing I can think of is maybe paying more attention to the strengthening of your True Self and then you will not be affected so much with these external influences or rather you will know how to overcome them.
 
The full moon don't seem to bother me, but a new moon does. I always seem to be at my best on a new moon. Weird, I subject, also my father was a moon farmer. There are a couple of stories that might be of interest.

Certain farming practices had to be correlated to the moon cycles, such as the setting of fence posts in the ground. If you set posts at the wrong time, the next day, they will all be out of the ground laying next to the hole. Really!

Another one that is more common, is to lay out a sheet of plywood on the ground and determine if the grass under it dies or lives. At certain times, the grass with grow wildly, and at other times, it immediately dies. This is all thought to be effected by the moon's power. I would say the moon has the ability to affect us greatly, so as Deckard puts it, we need to pay attention and corral any bad effects.
 
agni said:
I have noticed that during full moon my mood plummets and I have sense of unexplained panic as well as I lose much of my sleep. I can’t figure out why, does anyone have any what the connection might be ?
Full moons are so bright I seldom sleep. Too much moonlight can also throw off your menstral cycle. To 'reboot' the cycle you block all light to the room and then let in moonlight near the time you want to start. I learned this from some elder ladies years ago. (Haven't had need to try it yet)
Full moons make me happy, depending on the weather. When its too bright out though I can't sleep at all, especially when its cold.

Try getting more physical exercise on full moon days, I've found that helps a lot. Insulated drapes that block light well help too, I'm saving up for some. Right now we use blankets. :) Valerian tea with mint is made by Traditional Medicinals, its a tea found in the organic sections of most grocery
stores. The valerian smells like dog doo and dirty socks, but it does wonders for stress. (With mint and other herbs its not as nasty smelling)


hope it helps


Gimpy
 
I recall reading a C transcript in which Laura asked the C's about stones and crystals offering protection (sorry I haven't been able to find the exact transcript yet) but the C's said something about keeping the stones out of Moon Light...

Anyone know why Moon Light is "bad"?

Please and Thanks!
 
The only problem whether is a full moon or a new moon I have is that, it's too bright and I can't sleep well... I need to close the curtains to darken my room.. :cool:
 
I know this is far out and David Icke is a bit off on his observations and research but he suggests the moon is a natural satellite that has been overtaken by sts forces (that bit just sounds too shocking to be true :P) and that our reality matrix is projected from Saturn (sts home base) to the moon and reflected to earth.

I don't think it sounds too unrealistic to be honest but there are probably heaps more valid explanations. Like us being 70% water and we all know the tide is controlled by the moon.

My partner was born on a new moon and is deeply affected by the moon cycle. If we have an argument or he's being a goose about something 9 out of ten times we are in a full moon. It was soooo bad for him when he was on shift work that we were even considering him not being at home on the days surrounding and on the full moon and go stay with his parents just so he wouldn't lose his head and lash out at me.
 
Musashi said:
I recall reading a C transcript in which Laura asked the C's about stones and crystals offering protection (sorry I haven't been able to find the exact transcript yet) but the C's said something about keeping the stones out of Moon Light...

Anyone know why Moon Light is "bad"?

Please and Thanks!
Yeah I always wondered that too and could never find an answer. If I was going to guess I would say it was because moonlight is a reflection of sunlight so kind of like the opposite of sunlight of that makes any sense. Maybe it drains crystals instead of charging them?
 
I often feel quite anxious and even more angry in the few days preceding (sometimes up to a week before) the full moon but find that usually something 'shifts' on the day of the full moon itself when this heightening of emotions stabilises. For me, these feelings are attended by very palpable bodily tensions also and do sometimes find myself having to be extra vigilant during this period. It doesn't happen every month though it is very noticeable on others.

Reading this thread, I was reminded of a passage contained in 'The Zelatior' by Mark Hedsel which is referenced by Laura in chapter 66 of The Wave. The book is a study tracing the history and nature of the Western initiatic/Hermetic tradition in a kind of diary form by the author who studied under many 'masters' and schools. It's concerned with weaving together many threads, largely around arcane symbolism, Astrology, the Tarot Archetypes and certain esoteric concepts encoded within the architecture of the Churches and Cathedrals of Europe. There's also a brief study (or an attempt to decode) some of Fulcanelli's writings. Here's the quote regarding the Moon. To me it perhaps raises more questions than it answers but does suggest that the moon is of great significance, esoterically speaking and perhaps not what we think it is:

From 'The Zelator' (Mark Hedsel P.240)
In the meeting prior to his death, our Master fulfilled his promise to speak about the secrets of the Moon. Normally, he would wait for someone in our midst to ask a question. This time he began to speak without preamble.
‘In the esoteric literature, you will find many records indicating that the Moon was at one time part of the Earth. It had to leave the Earth, in order to allow life on Earth to continue its Spiritual development
unimpeded.

‘It is important that anyone on the Path should attempt to form a clear picture of what this separation was like. Not only was it of considerable evolutionary importance in the cosmogenesis of the Earth, but it is played, in miniature, in many of our Spiritual activities. It is the archetypal form of fission. Now, unfortunately, in modern times evenour imaginative faculties have been materialized, and it is difficult for us to form a picture of what this Moon-loss was really like. It is difficult for us to form clear images of the fission which lies at the root of all Spiritual activity. It is difficult for modern man and woman to visualize things in purely Spiritual terms. This is because the picture-making which lies at the basis of our imaginative faculty longs for mythology, since mythology is itself an agency of Spirituality.

‘If you cannot imagine in this way at present, you must perforce cling to materialistic images . . .’ - he touched the glass of water on the round table in front of him - ‘. . . then imagine a glass of water clouded with a pigment. If the glass is left to stand, the particles will settle to the bottom in a thick dross, leaving the water above clear. This is much nearer to the Spiritual reality of what happened when the Moon left the Earth, taking with it certain forms of dross materiality. Now, in your imagination, try to link this separation with the sigil for Libra, the sign of the Balance, and consider the place of this seventh sign in the rest of the zodiac. Consider also that Libra is not a violent sign. Of course, I realize that this imagery would not please those of the Velikovsky School, who imagine cata- strophic assaults on the Earth at fairly frequent intervals. Even so, the fact is that in the remote past, neither the Earth nor the Moon were as material as they are now.

‘The schema which depicts the planets in extended space pertains only to physical vision. You must understand this, or there will be no way in which you can approach some of the greater Mysteries of the cosmos. What appears to be on the outside is more accurately described as being on the inside: our Earthly vision is extremely limited, for, under normal circumstances, we see outwards from the central Ego to the cosmic periphery. However, this is not the cosmic vision. We are so used to this limited vision that we are not sufficiently tolerant to accept that there can be others - including a vision from the periphery into the centre.

‘In the case of the Moon, the matter is made more complex by the fact that the physical matter of the Moon did once form part of what we now call the Earth. Within the context of the lunar sphere, the two centres did once coincide. A tremendous effort of meditative power is required to follow these connections, however, and the bald statement I have made can result in misconceptions.’

‘Why,’ asked Philip, ‘did the Moon have to separate from the Earth?’

‘It was a cosmic fission. The Moon represents the harder mineraliza-
tion of the Earth. In the body of the Moon is the matter which, had it remained with the Earth, would have weighed down human develop- ment too deeply. Man would not have been able to bear the weight of those forces in his own body. Just as we know from our own observations of ourselves that we must slough off darkness to reach into the light, so the planetary bodies must also involve themselves in a similar fission. Even so, it is true that the weight of the Moon, albeit removed by half a million miles, still contorts the physical body of the Earth and its inhabitants through what are usually called ‘gravitational’ effects.

‘Now we must touch upon the connection between the Moon and clairvoyancy. We must do this because one of our members has - wisely or unwisely - become involved with mediumistic groups.’
‘It is important that we set out very clearly the dangers inherent in opening the soul to such activities. It is not for me to forbid such activity. I have no power to forbid, and would relish no such power. Much as I would wish to protect you, I cannot. The best I can do is make the dangers clear to you. After that, your beliefs and your conduct remain your own.’

He look around at our faces, as though to indicate that he had arrived at the most important point of the evening.

‘And so now we must look at an esoteric truth which touches on the very edge of what is permissible. What I have to say will be greatly disturbing for many people of modern times. It will disturb, because it is generally taken for granted that clairvoyancy, mediumship and Spiritual- istic activity are somehow linked with Spiritual development, and consequently of benefit to mankind. Unfortunately, this is far from the truth. A vast amount of our modern so-called “Spiritualist” literature pertains to channelling and clairvoyancy which is far from beneficial for the development of mankind. Indeed, not to mince words, I should tell you that it is distinctly harmful.

‘I must now make a statement which will introduce you to a concept which was, until comparatively recently, one of the deepest secrets of the esoteric Schools: In some ways, the Moon is the greatest problem of esoteric lore. The Moon is not at all what it appears to be.

‘At the end of the last century an astounding revelation was made, as a result of dissent among members of secret Schools. Information, hitherto guarded jealously by the most enclosed of the inner Orders, was made public. The secrets disclosed pertained to a far deeper level of knowledge than has hitherto been made exoteric by the Schools - even in this
enlightened age.’

His trace of cynicism seemed to go by unnoticed.

‘Our purpose here is not to document how so deep an esoteric idea was made public - or even to assess whether it was wise for this idea to be brought out into the open. All this has been dealt with in the literature — and if any of you wish to follow this up, I will give you a few titles later.

‘In a nutshell, what was made public during this conflict in the Schools was the truth that our Moon is a sort of counterweight to another sphere, which remains invisible to ordinary vision. This counterweighted sphere is called in esoteric circles the Eighth Sphere.
‘We must be careful with these words, for, in spite of what I have just said, this region is not itself a sphere, nor is it a moon. Even to locate it behind the physical Moon is not correct, for in the Spiritual realm spaces and distances are different. The truth is that this Eighth Sphere does not pertain to anything we are familiar with on the physical plane, yet we must use words from our own vocabularies whenever we wish to denote its existence. Were we to use a word which fits most appropriately this Sphere, then we should really call it a vacuum. Certainly, vacuum is a more appropriate term than sphere, for the Eighth Sphere sucks things into its own shadowy existence.

‘This Sphere is lower in the scale of being than the Seventh Sphere (which is the Earth). It acts as a sort of demonic conduit to suck into its maws certain degenerate Spiritual forms on the Earth. It is a shadow Sphere, controlled by shadow beings. However, the fact that they are shadow beings should not lead us to demote or underestimate their capabilities and intelligence. In many respects they are more intelligent than Man, for they are not limited by the power of love, as is Mankind.

‘The operation of this Eighth Sphere is complex. Its denizens - those shadowy beings for whom it is home - wish to people their Sphere with humanity, or (more accurately) with human souls. Towards this end, it has erected what we might call terminals on the Earth: these terminals are soul-conduits, which will suck into the lower Sphere a certain form of materialized Spiritual energy that is engendered on the Earth plane. The most usual circumstances where this materialization or engendering
takes place is in seances, and in other localities wherein human beings attempt to meddle - against the cosmic law - with the lower Etheric planes.’

Philip was having difficulties with this curious account of the lunar powers, and asked: ‘Are you saying that Spiritualist activity is itself victimized by the Eighth Sphere?’

‘Yes, Philip. Certain Spiritualist activity is coloured by the erroneous belief that the realm of the dead is accessible to the living. In truth, mediumistic activity cannot penetrate through into the true realm of the dead: it is therefore dealing only with shadows. In so doing, it is creating fodder for the nourishment of the Eighth Sphere. This sucking of certain forms of human soul-matter into the Eighth Sphere is not, by any means, intended for the benefit of humanity. The aim of the denizens of this world is to enhance and populate a world which may truly be described as the realm of the damned. The efforts of these denizens, or demons, is contrary to the evolutionary development which has been planned for the world. In truth, the human being was not designed to become a shadow being, captive in a demonic sphere: it was designed to become a god.

‘It is less than one hundred years since this knowledge of the Eighth Sphere was made public. At first there was an outcry at this breach in initiate knowledge, but now we can see that it has proved something of a blessing that the demonic threat has been brought out into the open. In some ways, it is easier to deal with a visible enemy. Those who dabble in the supposed communications with the dead, and with that spirit-land which they fondly imagine lies beyond the veil, have not gone unwarned.'
 
The belief that the phases of the moon affect health are not so unfounded. A series of scientific research provides interesting evidence about the influence of the moon on different medical conditions.

Matthew Silverstone in his book, Blinded By Science dedicated to the field of alternative medicine claims that the moon's gravity affects the water in our body, sleep patterns and the occurrence of insomnia. Suggests that he leads and the female menstrual cycle.



Does he some scientific evidence? This month in the Journal of Urology published the result of a study with 1481 patients who showed that the pain caused by kidney stones increases significantly during a full moon.

And previous studies were offered scientific evidence that the moon really affects health. For example, two years ago, a study published in the Medical Journal of Australia suggested that violent behavior and other behavioral disorders among mental patients more often during the full moon.

Lunar effect is called sometimes 'Transylvanian hypothesis'. It has long been speculated that in addition to the impact via gravitational force acts month and by changing the Earth's magnetic field. Skeptics on this correspond to the effect of the moon in this area is weak. However, the magazine Pulse Dr. Peter Perkins, interviewed his 79 British colleagues and came to the information that during the full moon three percent more calls for emergency assistance. During the new moon the number of calls fall by six percent.

But maybe it comes down to something simpler - the light level. The light provided by the full moon is 16 times stronger than for other lunar phases. Researchers from University College London found that the number of epileptic seizures decrease when the moon is brightest. Dr Sallie Baxendale who led the study believes that light affects the hormone melatonin. It is released at night during the dark and is involved in this process, is considered a doctor.
 
Personally, I have been using a moon calendar for a very long time and to me it definitely affects human affairs. Where I live we have a neighbor who every month or two, and nearly always on the full moon, or just before or after, loses the plot drinking alcohol, systematically causes violence to his family, and breaks his furniture on the walls of the gaff. This has gone on for the past 15 years. Then for a week, he walks around staring at his shoes. As if he could forget, when the moon comes on again, he gets drunk and here we go again! So I always have a calendar with moon cycles on the wall facing my desk. When i hear the first signs that it is coming a few hours before hand, the first arguments, bang, the calendar tells me it's better to go for a walk or visit some friends if i don't want to hear it!

Also, the moon affects me individually in many ways also. But not anything negative or harmful to others. I use the moon for creative purposes, the same way a farmer does for crops.
 
A couple of years ago I did tech support for a call center that handled emergency 911 calls.
I asked whether full moons have higher statistics of incidents/calls.
The manager said yes, it is a consistent correlation!
 
I was wondering more about this correlation earlier this week I believe when I was having difficulty sleeping. So, not during the full moon but several days after. It was a clear night and I could see the moon and the brightness of it from where I was trying to sleep. Have pretty dark curtains too. Anyway, felt pretty restless and agitated and like my body temperature was off, felt overly warm. So…maybe the moonlight had to do with the bit of insomnia that night? Noticed a similar feeling before when trying to sleep, several weeks ago but not sure how bright the moon was that night. May just get a moon calendar.
 
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