Doing "Reiki" on oneself without attunement?

[Laura]

If energy is flowing through your hands doesn't it necessarily means your whole body is already acting as a conduit? Why do you need to "lay hands" on yourself?

Well, according to the theory (partly verified by muscle testing, dowsing of meridians, etc), there is a special circuit that runs sort of through the hands, arms, coming in via the left hand, amplified by a circuit meeting it from the crown chakra, and out via the right. Same for the feet/legs though that connects to the solar plexus instead of the head. These are sub-circuits to the meridians of Chinese medicine.

When you start playing/experimenting with these energies, you definitely can feel these flows. It's sort of like the feeling you get when nursing a baby and you can feel all the glands in your chest, arms, even up into your neck, flowing and contributing to the production of milk.

 

[ana]

If energy is flowing through your hands doesn't it necessarily means your whole body is already acting as a conduit? Why do you need to "lay hands" on yourself?

Well, according to the theory (partly verified by muscle testing, dowsing of meridians, etc), there is a special circuit that runs sort of through the hands, arms, coming in via the left hand, amplified by a circuit meeting it from the crown chakra, and out via the right. Same for the feet/legs though that connects to the solar plexus instead of the head. These are sub-circuits to the meridians of Chinese medicine.

When you start playing/experimenting with these energies, you definitely can feel these flows. It's sort of like the feeling you get when nursing a baby and you can feel all the glands in your chest, arms, even up into your neck, flowing and contributing to the production of milk.

I see, in my experience the energy wich is perceived flowing trough both hands is the result of the entire nervous system charged of attention/energy. The whole body becomes a coherent little system able to cooperate as the mind is clear and balanced, and so I don't understand the need of redirecting this energy/attention to the self in order to heal or whatever. Thanks :)

 

[Laura]

I see, in my experience the energy wich is perceived flowing trough both hands is the result of the entire nervous system charged of attention/energy. The whole body becomes a coherent little system able to cooperate as the mind is clear and balanced, and so I don't understand the need of redirecting this energy/attention to the self in order to heal or whatever. Thanks :)

I know what you mean. That was my experience too until Reiki which, as you may have read in The Wave, I held highly suspect and thought it was a load of nonsense. I took the attunements in a highly skeptical state, sort of "this is not gonna work and when it is over, I'll tell everybody it is just another scam." But it is very much like having a super charged new circuit added that turns your standard energy as you describe above, into something quite different. Like I said, the only way I can describe how it feels - the Reiki energy, that is - is like milk "letting down". It is so strong you feel it like a warm rush and no "charged attention/energy" is required beforehand. You don't need to start with a mind that is clear and balanced for that energy to flow independently of you, and the flow of the energy actually produces the cleared and balanced mind, rather than the other way around.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that it's like you have been given a new set of hands with new circuits that are hooked up to an extra network/pool of energy that is more than just the ordinary nervous system/attention energy.

Well, that's the best I can describe it. Maybe somebody else can do better.

 

[aragorn]

If energy is flowing through your hands doesn't it necessarily means your whole body is already acting as a conduit? Why do you need to "lay hands" on yourself?

Well, according to the theory (partly verified by muscle testing, dowsing of meridians, etc), there is a special circuit that runs sort of through the hands, arms, coming in via the left hand, amplified by a circuit meeting it from the crown chakra, and out via the right. Same for the feet/legs though that connects to the solar plexus instead of the head. These are sub-circuits to the meridians of Chinese medicine.

When you start playing/experimenting with these energies, you definitely can feel these flows. It's sort of like the feeling you get when nursing a baby and you can feel all the glands in your chest, arms, even up into your neck, flowing and contributing to the production of milk.

I see, in my experience the energy wich is perceived flowing trough both hands is the result of the entire nervous system charged of attention/energy. The whole body becomes a coherent little system able to cooperate as the mind is clear and balanced, and so I don't understand the need of redirecting this energy/attention to the self in order to heal or whatever. Thanks :)

I've been thinking about this question, and my understanding is the following: First of all, the hands are the most convenient parts of the body to use in directing the energy flow. It's quite possible to do Reiki with e.g. your feet, but especially when you're doing Reiki on yourself using the feet would be quite impossible. Secondly, it is suggested that the energy - let's call it life energy - flows and fluctuates in our bodies according to the condition of the 'vessel' (state of mind, trauma, injuries, health etc.). In an ideal vessel/body the energy would flow unhindered and freely according to what's needed. This can be seen and felt for example in new born babies, unless they are traumatized from birth in some way. As we grow older we 'collect' all sorts of obstructions in our bodies. These can come from traumatic experiences, psychological/physical abuse, narcissistic parents etc. So, we start to develop these armourings, or we can have temporarily some blockages of the energy flow in different parts of our bodies because of the reasons stated above.

So, when you notice that there's a obstruction at some part of your (or your clients) body, where the energy doesn't flow through, you simply must 'short circuit the grid' by placing your hands at that particular spot. It's like 'precision melting' of the cold/stiff spot. Different practitioners have different ways of finding or feeling these blockades. To me it usually feels like the air is denser above that spot, or that there's a 'bump' in the air. So, the hands are a very good tool for analyzing too!

Anyway, this is how I see this working, I could be wrong.

 

[Laura]

Thanks for the "short circuiting" analogy.

But, having said all of the above, I'm kinda like Ana, I don't see much point in giving Reiki to yourself. My experience has been that if I am treating another person, it benefits me as well.

 

[zim]

I know what you mean. That was my experience too until Reiki which, as you may have read in The Wave, I held highly suspect and thought it was a load of nonsense. I took the attunements in a highly skeptical state, sort of "this is not gonna work and when it is over, I'll tell everybody it is just another scam." But it is very much like having a super charged new circuit added that turns your standard energy as you describe above, into something quite different. Like I said, the only way I can describe how it feels - the Reiki energy, that is - is like milk "letting down". It is so strong you feel it like a warm rush and no "charged attention/energy" is required beforehand. You don't need to start with a mind that is clear and balanced for that energy to flow independently of you, and the flow of the energy actually produces the cleared and balanced mind, rather than the other way around. So, I guess what I'm saying is that it's like you have been given a new set of hands with new circuits that are hooked up to an extra network/pool of energy that is more than just the ordinary nervous system/attention energy.

Well, that's the best I can describe it. Maybe somebody else can do better.

I took the attunement the last yearm before that I always felt hot in my hands and really wanted the attunement since I read the wave and see how Laura experienced, but after this women made the attunement I did not feel anything in my hands I felt like she turn off me instead turn on.... So do the attunement by my self could be interesting as I can feel again the hot in my hands!!!

 

[Sirius]

Which Session comes to my mind regarding this subject:

[quote author=940930]Q: (L) Did [Jesus] perform miracles?
A: Some.
Q: (L) Can you tell us about one or two of them?
A: Healing.
Q: (L) Was he able to literally heal with the touch of
his hand?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did he perform exorcisms?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Is Reiki the method he used to heal; or
something similar?
A: Yes.[/quote]
"Yes" to question #1 or #2 ??

[quote author=940930]
Q: (L) Is there any way to enhance the Reiki energy
to make it powerful enough that one could do in a
very short time what now takes quite a while?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What can one do to enhance the Reiki energy?
A: Attain lofty spiritual purity.[/quote]
Who knows which gifts and knowledge are possible. On the other hand, whether this is possible in the current situation and environment of mankind these days – and we are not Jesus – is certainly uncertain.

 

[Mrs. Peel]

[So, I guess what I'm saying is that it's like you have been given a new set of hands with new circuits that are hooked up to an extra network/pool of energy that is more than just the ordinary nervous system/attention energy.

Well, that's the best I can describe it. Maybe somebody else can do better.

Well, I've never had kids to know the breastfeeding feeling, but at times when I'm doing Reiki, it feels like a menopausal "hot flash." Doesn't happen each time, so I'm always wondering, was it reiki or was it hormones?

These days, my reiki practice pretty much consists of giving it to my aging Persian cat. :D

 

[monotonic]

So, when you notice that there's a obstruction at some part of your (or your clients) body, where the energy doesn't flow through, you simply must 'short circuit the grid' by placing your hands at that particular spot. It's like 'precision melting' of the cold/stiff spot. Different practitioners have different ways of finding or feeling these blockades. To me it usually feels like the air is denser above that spot, or that there's a 'bump' in the air. So, the hands are a very good tool for analyzing too!

I'm no expert but in electronics, you generally can't fix something by breaking it again. That is unless you plan on rebuilding it. And then, why destroy it? Why not reuse the parts?

Laura said something about hypnotherapy, it is like carrying someone. I wonder if perhaps the same applies here to an extent? Although if the issues are biological or having to do with toxins, perhaps "melting" the area will allow the body to process those toxins when it rebuilds. Or perhaps some things are those that are set in stone during childhood or before birth, and perhaps reiki can help with that, things that the subject could not change themselves.

It occurs to me that reiki, hypnosis etc. may help someone survive 3D or get to a higher D, but ultimately all energy is conserved, and a person must tow their own weight.

Does this make sense?


It just occurred to me that perhaps "short circuit" really is a good analogy. I imagine lots of neurons connected, and the way they are connected is supporting say a repressed memory, or an addiction, or some negative thing. The reiki then provides the necessary "inspiration" or energy which exposes the negativity of the wiring (it provides a set of input not previously experienced, which obviates the inappropriate wiring). Now that the cells receive negative feedback from the current scheme, their natural reaction to retract the current wiring scheme and start from scratch. Just like if you build a circuit and it doesn't work, you just cut all the wires and put it back together a different way. Except in neural nets it would be like "short circuiting" all of the neurons together, and resetting (discharging, forgetting...) the initial programming.

One exception is if it is not the current circuit that is the problem, and it is other peripheral circuits connected to it which lead up to the problem. If the surrounding circuitry continually creates the conditions to undermine or sabotage the circuit, no amount of rebuilding will help.

One thing that worries me is that, if the entire idea of the circuit is wrong, parts of the circuit will always keep going out no matter how much fixing or resetting you do. It's like an old computer. It always eventually stops working, although if you hit the reset button it will work for some time. What is important is that watching the failure carefully often allows you to determine what is wrong with the overall design. If you keep pushing the reset button on the other hand, each time, say the hard drive gets turned off in the middle of writing something. Things get corrupted, and this causes more things to break. If you keep hitting the reset button when something goes wrong, you may never figure out what's causing the problem in the first place, and eventually it will stop working altogether.

Am I even half sensible?

 

[curious_richard]

I'm no expert but in electronics, you generally can't fix something by breaking it again.

If you wish to use this analogy, how do you repair a circuit board with a bad 14-pin, 28-pin, or 40-pin chip? A heroic novice might try to desolder the whole chip. And he might ruin the circuit board. An experienced technician would cut the legs of the bad chip, then remove the legs from the board with a soldering iron one at a time. This is very quick, usually no more than a second per pin. And then he will use desolder braid over the closed holes. And finally, if he has any decency, he will solder in a socket before installing the replacement chip.

Is this your experience in repair, or do you have a better way of repairing circuits?

It occurs to me that reiki, hypnosis etc. may help someone survive 3D or get to a higher D, but ultimately all energy is conserved, and a person must tow their own weight.

It should be obvious that everyone needs to "tow their own weight" in some sense. That is karma. But I don't see why reiki is connected to karma. What I think about reiki is that it is a healing process for a human body. It helps the body heal itself, and that can be very helpful for many. And many may be bombarded with other physical problems intended to keep them derailed.

 

[aragorn]

Actually, when I used the term 'short circuiting' what I had in mind was more like using 'jump wires' in order to redirect the energy into the problematic spot. But having read monotonics reply I started thinking that for example in effective sessions of body work (or maybe during zoning out doing EE) there maybe some sort of 'rebooting' or 'short circuiting' happening. I don't however feel that that sort of thing happens during Reiki - it's a more gradual process, IMO.

As what comes to doing Reiki on one self, I'm sure it's a very individual matter: some get great benefits by self treatment, while others thrive by treating others. This is what my teacher said too (he does regularly both). I tend to treat others more than myself, and it seems to enhance my energies quite sufficiently. Every now and then I feel the need to give Reiki to myself, especially on the feet and legs. It helps in moments when I feel 'not grounded' or cold. I used to have a greater need to do Reiki on my aching shoulders and back, but there's no need to do that since I started the recommended diet, there are just no aches to cure! :)

 

[monotonic]

Richard, I was thinking more in the sense of a badly designed circuit. You can always tear out a broken part and replace it. The body does this constantly. But sometimes the circuit needs to be redesigned. I find the idea of neural nets very apt in this sense. Neural nets reinforce connections that give positive feedback, and disconnect those that give negative feedback. So it is constantly evolving, trying to increase the accuracy of performing the given task. Sometimes a net just gets in a rut, and the input given is not varied enough to produce enough negative feedback to cause a change. It's like you know something's wrong but you can't figure out what, and then something unusual happens that forces your thinking to become more dynamic. A unique external stimuli (a Shock perhaps) causes a jolt of negative feedback to neural nets which are old, and when proven obsolete they are "reset" and allowed to rewire. My thinking is that perhaps Reiki provides this new input, perspective, inspiration, which allows old nets to rewire in a better way.

On that note, there are various neural net training simulators around the net. You can experiment with different settings to try and get a net to approximate a mathematical function. Say a sine wave or a square root. The greater the number of neurons acting in unity, the greater the approximation (usually). There is also a "learn rate" that may or may not contribute to the final outcome.

 

[curious_richard]

Richard, I was thinking more in the sense of a badly designed circuit. You can always tear out a broken part and replace it.

Okay, I am with you now. I misunderstood the point of your analogy.