Doktor Gruenbaum

[Approaching Infinity]

I'm reading Jim Marrs' latest book, "The Rise of the Fourth Reich". It's an analysis of the US/Nazi connections, basically so far a compilation of various Nazi conspiracy theories (everything from Paperclip to Nazi flying saucers, time travel, and globalists). There's some really good stuff in it, which puts forth a lot of the ideas the C's suggested, such as:

A: Now, some history... as you know, the CIA and NSA and other agencies are the children of Nazi Gestpo... the SS, which was an experiment influenced by Antareans who were practicing for the eventual reintroduction of the Nephalim on to 3rd and/or 4th density earth. And the contact with the “Antareans” was initiated by the Thule Society, which groomed its dupe subject, Adolph Hitler to be the all-time mind-programmed figurehead. Now, in modern times, you have seen, but so far, on a lesser scale: Oswald, Ruby, Demorenschildt, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, Arthur Bremer, Farakhan, Menendez, Bundy, Ramirez, Dahmer, etc...

One passage in particular caught my eye because it reminded me of this:

Q: The Greenbaum material says that there was a Jewish boy brought to America and trained as a doctor who became this infamous Dr. Greenbaum. Is that true?
A: No. "Green" is an alias, or more accurately, a pseudonym for multiple persons engaged in mind control efforts.

Here's the short passage. Marrs interviewed Buchanan in 2007.

According to former U.S. military intelligence agent Lyn Buchanan, who at one time trained the U.s. Army's remote viewers, the Nazis formed a unit of psychics and called it Doktor Gruenbaum. This name was for the psychic project, not a person, although apparently a German psychic who assumed the name Gruenbaum may have lived in the United States after the war...

It doesn't look like Marrs goes on to talk about the Greenbaum lecture, yet this passage is in the section on Nazi psychiatry and mind control, and ends with a discussion of Manchurian candidates (haven't read that far, just noticed by skimming). However, I thought it was interesting that Greenbaum was referred to as a group and not an individual.

 

[Cyre2067]

Heck I'd call that a hit. Nice Connection H!

 

[Approaching Infinity]

One more great passage: Marrs is talking about how German psychiatrists were heavily involved in the eugenics movement there, often acting as "hereditary healthy court" administrators, determining who got sterilized. He's basically describing pathocratic psychiatry. He quotes RJ Lifton saying Hitler parroted Fritz Lenz's views on genetics. Lenz thought that people "with only slight signs of mental disease" should be sterilized. In other words, up to 20% of the population. This would of course include psychoneurotics, who are in fact more healthy then those "stable" and integrated individuals psychiatry sees as healthy. Anyway, here's the great quote:

One revealing anecdote involving this medical-driven policy was the release in 1933 of a mental patient who had been imprisoned as a violence-prone hardened criminal, a "dangerous lunatic", according to a local official. His psychiatrist, Dr. Werner Heyde, however, pronounced Theodor Eicke fit for discharge, and Eicke was soon named the first commandant of Dachau concentration camp. In 1934, Eicker was promoted to inspector general and chief of all concentration camps. Eicke, whose influence and spirit within the SS was "second only to that of Himmler," died in 1943 when his plane was shot down behind Russian lines.

So they sterilized psychoneurotics and set psychopaths free. Swell.

 

[Annette1]

H:

This sounds very interesting! Great catch. I've only read "Rule By Secrecy" from Marrs. Shortly thereafter I found this site. Was wondering if any of his other books are worth the read. Was not sure if it was disinfo.

Am interested to learn what is revealed in the Manchurian candidate discussion. For a while, I've suspected that mr. decider may very well be among them, largely due to his "off" behavior and endless misspeak. Then considering the parentage, I would not be surprised to learn that the subject in question would have been worked upon from an early age. From what I've observed, the technology seems to be available but still somewhat rudimentary at this stage or a ways from foolproof.

 

[mkrnhr]

So they sterilized psychoneurotics and set psychopaths free.

Does it mean psychatrists at that time knew about psychopathy or is it solely due to the "like attracs like" effect?

 

[Approaching Infinity]

So they sterilized psychoneurotics and set psychopaths free.

Does it mean psychatrists at that time knew about psychopathy or is it solely due to the "like attracs like" effect?

Probably more the latter than the former. Even a non-psychopathic 'doctor' can easily be convinced of the "mental health" of a psychopath, as Cleckley and Hare demonstrate. So in this case, I'd say it's either a case of "This man is totally sane. In fact, he's quite charming despite all the nasty things people say about him!" or case of psychopaths recognizing each other in a crowd. Interesting how that works, huh? The scum always rises to the top, and the philosopher's stone is rejected because of its "sickly" appearance.

 

[Cosmos]

I found a video about this thread http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=19815.0 it discuss the "the industry exposed videos"(http://www.theindustryexposed.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&layout=category&task=category&id=1&Itemid=2) and it's one of the videos of this series. If you wanna talk about this series of videos, please discuss it on the thread I first mentioned.

the industry exposed part 65: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUbbm3KXck8
(personality disorder, a doctor named green blamed by a victim to have tried to split her in as many personalities as possible. with electro shocks burning different images into her brain in a very young age.etc...)

 

[Cosmos]

I found a video about this thread http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=19815.0 it discuss the "the industry exposed videos"(http://www.theindustryexposed.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&layout=category&task=category&id=1&Itemid=2) and it's one of the videos of this series. If you wanna talk about this series of videos, please discuss it on the thread I first mentioned.

the industry exposed part 65: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUbbm3KXck8
(personality disorder, a doctor named green blamed by a victim to have tried to split her in as many personalities as possible. with electro shocks burning different images into her brain in a very young age.etc...)

I found some other videos: the man who did that to this people in young age, is Dr.L.Wilson Green (CIA)

the therapist valerie wolf about what happend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH9XHlfH0PM&feature=related

victim chris denicola about what happened to her:
http://www.spike.com/video/mkultra-survivor/2807781

victim claudia mullen about what happened to her:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=026929i9S9M

the project Dr.Green was working for was (so I think) called MK Ultra
here is a video series about this mind control project:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8k0C88B0QE&feature=fvw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOeZdAJjGSo&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUrDog-dg4s&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZd34jInRhM&feature=related
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPjZ74Xt1RI&feature=related

 

[djdrdisco]

There is a story that has not circulated very much, but reveals a fascinating aspect of the Dr. Greenbaum syndrome leaking out of Germany after WWII. Until Lynne Buchanan's revelation about Greenbaum, I had little idea of what had been going on in wartime psychic Germany. But there was something I heard from the secretary of Dr. Werner Von Braun, head of NASA's race to the moon. He was the premier rocket scientist from Germany, captured and "liberated" to America. Most people over 50 know him, because he became a TV icon for the space race.

Dr. Carol Rosen, who is an advocate for the prevention of arming outer space, was his American secretary. When Werner was very ill in bed, possibly on his death bed, he had been scheduled to go to an important meeting. He obviously couldn't make it, so he sent her in his stead. She was to speak for him, but she asked, "What shall I say?" and he replied, "I will tell you when you get there." She went to the podium, waiting for a phone call, and when she got there, she heard a voice begin to speak within her head. It was him. She delivered the speech on his behalf, as though she was personally familiar with what he had to say. It seems clear now that the people high up in the German hierarchy were trained quite well.

This story was delivered to a group of Los Angelinos in July 2001 by Carol Rosen in my presence. It was a meeting promoted by Dr. Stephen Greer, of Disclosure Project.org fame. She also told us on that day, that terrorism was going to be the next big thing in the U.S. very soon. It was part of the big agenda decided upon by the power behind the U.S. If I recall, it was the planning of the National Defense Council.

 

[Niall]

Carol Rosin's testimony has been discussed here and brought up here. Ms Rosin is undoubtedly well-acquainted with cloak-and-dagger stuff.

Welcome to the Cassiopaea forum, djdrdisco. We invite all new members to introduce themselves on the Newbies board and maybe explain how they came across the forum.