Doomed to be STS?

[Viktor]

There is a thing that has bothered me a lot: I can't stand a relationship with someone I don't find beautiful. To add insult to injury, I'm doing an university course I don't like for the sole reason of getting money and allowing me to get a pretty woman. That seems the utmost form of physicality adoration. Also, doing an unliked course goes against the C's frequent recommendation of "going with the flow without doing what causes strain so things fall into place naturally."
Despite being aware of my wrongs, it does not change the fact that I'm really determined to follow this path, no matter how it hurts me.

I would like to know: is there some advice to my situation? This issue has bothered me for a long time and I really felt it important to share it here.

 

[Viktor]

Yes. I'm aware we all are STS. But there is the possibility of being a STO-candidate.

 

[Moine]

Despite being aware of my wrongs, it does not change the fact that I'm really determined to follow this path, no matter how it hurts me.

If you're a masochist, and thus you genuinely enjoy and thrive with copious amounts of suffering, well then you're going with the flow anyways. But if you're not, then I would recommend trying something new, that just comes to your interest, randomly....

I say randomly, because it's easy to spot those things that you're interested in doing, by just trying them, one by one, rather than holding on to programmed notions or dispositions of preference. We're programmed from at least high school years to "follow the money" and "adore the pretty ones", because that is the nature of the game in 3D STS.

However money should lose its sway when your wallet is full, and your soul has been emptied in pursuing a financially astounding, yet spiritually barren career. It's one of those things that those with more experience are unfortunately wary in answering -- for "stupid" wealth may solve some problems, however it is unfortunately unable to address others. The same principle belies attraction and relationship.

Sure, "beauty" may get you interested to initiate and invest, however if that's the only thing that gets you giddy, you'll unfortunately find out that youthfulness tends to disappear once you, or they, start to get older. This issue tends to underwrite many middle aged crises, when the superficial foundations of a commitment disappear, leaving absolutely nothing else to draw conviction from. Holding a mutual, bi-directional conversation, for more than an hour, should be an indicator in whom you could be interested in forming a relationship with, rather than just their physical attributes.

This theme is also commensurable in the other direction. If another person is only interested in how thick your credit card limits are, well then its not a transformational relationship; instead its a transactional one, that abruptly ends when the monetary benefits either stop, or start to proportionately dwindle through time.

As for a career, what are you wanting to pursue? To me, a job is a job, and anything will do. Unfortunately these days, wage stagnation and inflation are a thing, and the purchasing power of today's money is not the same as it was back in the 60's. Most things also don't require a university degree, unless they're either governmentally regulated professions (doctors, lawyers, accountants, et.c.), or involve teaching/researching at said university itself. I've seen many, many people who went into good jobs that they never wanted, or never intended (uni grads mind you), due to economic changes, disillusionment, or due to limited uptake of graduates in their respective fields. Those good jobs also only required a High School diploma.

 

[Viktor]

If you're a masochist, and thus you genuinely enjoy and thrive with copious amounts of suffering, well then you're going with the flow anyways. But if you're not, then I would recommend trying something new, that just comes to your interest, randomly....

I say randomly, because it's easy to spot those things that you're interested in doing, by just trying them, one by one, rather than holding on to programmed notions or dispositions of preference. We're programmed from at least high school years to "follow the money" and "adore the pretty ones", because that is the nature of the game in 3D STS.

However money should lose its sway when your wallet is full, and your soul has been emptied in pursuing a financially astounding, yet spiritually barren career. It's one of those things that those with more experience are unfortunately wary in answering -- for "stupid" wealth may solve some problems, however it is unfortunately unable to address others. The same principle belies attraction and relationship.

Sure, "beauty" may get you interested to initiate and invest, however if that's the only thing that gets you giddy, you'll unfortunately find out that youthfulness tends to disappear once you, or they, start to get older. This issue tends to underwrite many middle aged crises, when the superficial foundations of a commitment disappear, leaving absolutely nothing else to draw conviction from. Holding a mutual, bi-directional conversation, for more than an hour, should be an indicator in whom you could be interested in forming a relationship with, rather than just their physical attributes.

This theme is also commensurable in the other direction. If another person is only interested in how thick your credit card limits are, well then its not a transformational relationship; instead its a transactional one, that abruptly ends when the monetary benefits either stop, or start to proportionately dwindle through time.

As for a career, what are you wanting to pursue? To me, a job is a job, and anything will do. Unfortunately these days, wage stagnation and inflation are a thing, and the purchasing power of today's money is not the same as it was back in the 60's. Most things also don't require a university degree, unless they're either governmentally regulated professions (doctors, lawyers, accountants, et.c.), or involve teaching/researching at said university itself. I've seen many, many people who went into good jobs that they never wanted, or never intended (uni grads mind you), due to economic changes, disillusionment, or due to limited uptake of graduates in their respective fields. Those good jobs also only required a High School diploma.

I'm not a masochist. I just don't feel there is other way around.

As for youthfulness disappearance, so what? It won't make me stop wanting an attractive partner. By the way, I could just resort to a younger pretty woman.

I know it's hard to say these things. But my brain happens to be wired that way.

 

[Moine]

As for youthfulness disappearance, so what? It won't make me stop wanting an attractive partner. By the way, I could just resort to a younger pretty woman.

Indeed. Some people decide to become serial bachelors, and end up only dating others throughout their lives, while never settling down. That could be for you then? Leonardo DiCaprio is a little famous for being exactly like that.

But what you just listed denotes a 3D STS tendency, when eventually coupled with wealth, fame, and power/influence, tends to make one a particularly good "target". Epstein's little business was exactly into that sort of thing. He found his niche, catering to the proclivities of the rich and famous; a "matching" service, if you will, for those with not only deep pockets, but with deep appetites, along with a superficially professional guarantee of discretion.

The trope of caution being thrown into the wind, is something that is ever present in 3D STS, when someone has a sort of "tunnel vision" in terms of their perception, when they're keenly in pursuit of their appetites in life.

And everyone is wired that way. Inject wealth, fame, or opportunity into anyone's life, and you'll find out that nearly everyone would behave according to their inclinations, especially when they never adopted a habit of reflection in their lives.

 

[Viktor]

I was wondering. Maybe the way of the STO for me is to offset such selfish desires with altruistic deeds in situations other than relationships.

Maybe I should acknowledge how wrong my desire is, but without trying to stifle it, as that would be totally against (my) flow.

As a consolation: at least I am aware.

 

[Wandering Star]

Despite being aware of my wrongs, it does not change the fact that I'm really determined to follow this path, no matter how it hurts me.

And... That's all folks!!

 

[Moine]

Hmm. It doesn't work that way. There is no "offsetting". You can look into the purported altruistic and humanitarian efforts of your favorite philanthropists in any setting, and you'll usually find out that they're operating off of purely selfish interests, either to make themselves look good, to feel good themselves, or to further some agenda.

And desires are not wrong -- they're very useful in teaching lessons. Rather, I would say to find out what are your desires, and what are not your desires. Basically what's inherent in your own character, personality, soul that is independent of whatever society has told or taught you. You'll find truth and enjoyment in that, since you'll be able to avoid much disappointment and struggle, as you will then know what you otherwise would be doing naturally. The youthful hormones also play a significant part in muddying people's thought processes.

Know Thyself is an unspoken precedent clause to the C's recommendation of flowing, that many think they know, but few actually find out and then do without struggling with themselves internally.

Now stifling your own desires would amount to stifling your own soul, and causing internal conflict of another kind. I'd recommend getting an astrological natal chart, with accurate birth location/time data for yourself, to see if things line up, so you can say "yes I'm totally like this", or "nah bro, I need to try things out cuz idk". Talking to people in person also helps -- the older, the better.

I'd also recommend reviewing this session in particular. 4D STS programming is so innocuous, yet so effective, because people "think" that they identify with whatever, when in reality it's all just another ploy to keep you locked into a nice luscious little loosh farming apparatus.

January 7, 1995

...
Q: (L) Of all the modes of sexual expression, which one is more likely to advance one to 4th density more rapidly?

A: Total celibacy.

Q: (D) Well then I'm okay! {laughter} (V) Can you explain why total celibacy?

A: Because you are then "letting go" of the cravings for physicality. {That is, celibacy when one has let go of cravings is effortless. Celibacy that is an effort is probably not positive because it is done in an effort to GET something, i.e. advance to 4D.}
...

The above segment works for either polarity orientation. So if you want to do the 4D STS route yourself, you can do the Leonardo thing that I noted above. But STO requires a re-polarization, and nothing that you hold dear in 3D STS is applicable in 4D STO.

 

[Arwenn]

Some where else Laura posted this:

There are three main principles the Cs teach which are, apparently, the foundation of the STO life: Free Will, Knowledge and Networking.

I think that aligning with STO principles begins with empathy and wanting to be of service, along with enhancing knowledge (& applying it), networking and allowing others their free will.
And perhaps with knowledge you may find that something within you changes and in turn makes you attracted to an inner beauty not just what appears on the surface. As for pursuing a career, I hope that you find something you truly enjoy learning and studying, and not just for the sake of money and attracting someone.

I came across this post which speaks to the Japanese concept of Ikigai or ‘reason for being’:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966608389753966760