"Dr." Max Steinberg citing the Cs and Laura

[Foxx]

Hey everyone!

I got an email from the Rochester (NY, USA) UFO meetup group people (I've yet to actually meet up with them, though, and they seem pretty far off from what's actually going on) on a slideshow presentation entitled "2012 and beyond" by a Dr. Max Steinberg. He claims to be a Ph.D., but after searching around for a bit I can't find anything that indicates what he has a Ph.D. in or where he got it (perhaps I just didn't search hard enough, though). He has a new book called "Celestial Science"

_http://www.amazon.com/Celestial-Science-Max-Steinberg/dp/0984824219/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327537411&sr=8-1

And has "compiled" (rather, thrown into a blender and set it to high) information from various channeled sources, including Ra and the Cassiopaeans, about how humanity is being "upgraded" through abductions to move into 4th density (he calls it this, too). I scanned through the preview text on amazon and skimmed some blog posts and it seems rather clear that he's not read any of Laura's works, does not understand the myriad of pitfalls in channeling or STO vs STS, nor does it appear that he's made any effort to contact her regarding her research.

Here's his blog:
_http://www.maxsteinberg.com/

his meetup profile:
_http://www.meetup.com/ufos-230/members/11093869/

facebook profile:
_https://www.facebook.com/maxsteinberg2

Normally, I wouldn't bother to bring up such obvious disinformation/misinformation (maybe he's just woefully misguided...) however, since he mentions Laura and the Cs, I thought it potentially warranted being brought to the group's attention.

I'm considering going and asking tough questions--what do you all think?

 

[1984]

I'm considering going and asking tough questions--what do you all think?

Let's wait until Laura and/or the Chateau crew can chime in here before we ask tough questions.

 

[Foxx]

I'm considering going and asking tough questions--what do you all think?

Let's wait until Laura and/or the Chateau crew can chime in here before we ask tough questions.

Good idea! As well, the event isn't until Feb 1st.

 

[Vulcan59]

FWIW, the website maxsteinberg.com is registered to a Max Myakishev-Rempel. FB profile here and the picture looks the same as Max Steinberg FB profile Foxx posted above. Infact it might be the same person? Also found a resume posted here.

 

[Foxx]

FWIW, the website maxsteinberg.com is registered to a Max Myakishev-Rempel. FB profile here and the picture looks the same as Max Steinberg FB profile Foxx posted above. Infact it might be the same person? Also found a resume posted here.

Great find, Vulcan59! I need to remember to whois the domain names in my searches.

They certainly look pretty identical. Legitimately, he could be using a pseudonym considering the writing topic and his employment in academia.

 

[Laura]

Interesting. I think I would just send him a copy of "High Strangeness" or a link to the cassiopaea.org site and not make a fuss about it.

 

[Michal]

...(perhaps I just didn't search hard enough, though). ...

Foxx, hi!
I would like to criticise Your "perhaps". If You are not sure do You think making presumption is OK? Maybe it is like You presume but I will remember this and I do not know if I will come back to this person in short time. I do not have time now to check what You have found.

My point is that if it is not true anyhow in my mind will be impresion left after what You wrote and I think that in case it is not true it is not beneficial for me this "Dr" and anyone.

My 1 cent.

Thanks

Mikel

 

[Foxx]

Interesting. I think I would just send him a copy of "High Strangeness" or a link to the cassiopaea.org site and not make a fuss about it.

Ok, I'll do that. Thanks for the input Laura!

...(perhaps I just didn't search hard enough, though). ...

Foxx, hi!
I would like to criticise Your "perhaps". If You are not sure do You think making presumption is OK? Maybe it is like You presume but I will remember this and I do not know if I will come back to this person in short time. I do not have time now to check what You have found.

My point is that if it is not true anyhow in my mind will be impresion left after what You wrote and I think that in case it is not true it is not beneficial for me this "Dr" and anyone.

My 1 cent.

Thanks

Mikel

Hi Mikel!

I'm sorry, I don't fully understand what you mean--where did I make the presumption? I also don't understand what you mean when you say "Maybe it is like You presume but I will remember this and I do not know if I will come back to this person in short time. I do not have time now to check what You have found."

It is true that I'm a little weary of anyone writing in the "new age" circles (especially with such poor research and/or active disinformation as his book), especially involving any claims they make as to credentials they have, and, in the case of obviously bad information, bet on them being liars before betting that anything they say is the truth.

However, I didn't state that I presumed his Ph.D. was false (but did certainly suggest that I wasn't accepting it as fact just because he said he had one) and, as Vulcan59 found out, it was also true that I hadn't done enough research and that his Ph.D. is more than just some letters attached to the end of his name--it at least has a richer explanation (with a different name) with possibilities for verification.

Thanks for the input!

 

[Michal]

Hi Foxx,

I'm sorry, I don't fully understand what you mean--where did I make the presumption? I also don't understand what you mean when you say

Presumption: Max Steinberg does not have Ph.D.
Conclusion for me: Max S. is creating false impresion about his person.

"Maybe it is like You presume but I will remember this and I do not know if I will come back to this person in short time. I do not have time now to check what You have found."

Your post is important for me.
It is statement of the fact that I will remember it.
When for example somebody in Your circle of friends would talk about You to others that You are "somebody else" because he/she had impression of such a possibility but have not checked it then what?
Is it fair?
I mean that. As long as I am not sure I do not like to believe in possibilities because I was a lot of times misled by such an attitude (talking here about myself). I was likely to think about somebody who I did not like that he/she had some character features which in a fact was a "tendency" or filter set by my emotion related to that person.

This is my presumption that: You do not like Steinberg or something he represents.

I do not know him and not saying that Your intuition is wrong having something in mind but if You are, and You said that You are not sure about Your knowledge then I think I do not want to think about him in any kind of way if the fact is not verified.

And my reverse story to that:
Maybe I am exaggerating. Maybe I am wrong to point it to You because this is Your way of thinking and it is not my business. Maybe giving hints for further check is OK? Maybe stating presumptions is inspiration for checking? And You did some research so it was not fantasy. It has some real background. Real I mean in some texts You found.

Conclusion for me:
You stated You are not sure about Ph.D. false or true.
So what I can do with that knowledge?
I will remember that something is tricky about that person.
Next time when I see text with Max Steinberg for sure I will have some filter and will be looking for some facts confirming his "self importance".
:) And that is fact.
By my will I will try to be objective with that filter set.


PS. It is impression in my mind that by what we are saying and thinking we create some reality. We want that or not. Reality of thoughts. We are responsible for realities which we create. It is basically statement for myself.

Hope I have clarified what I was thinking about? Foxx, OK? :)

 

[Foxx]

Hi Mikel!

Ok, I think I fully understand what you mean now and will keep that in mind with my future posts (trying to check my presumptions and how I convey the information).

Thanks!

And, as a follow up, I emailed him suggesting High Strangeness and cassiopaea.org, and also the youtube series "A Course on Knowledge and Being", to which he replied and said that Laura's books are his handbooks and he cites her extensively, but that he was not aware of the videos and grateful for the link.

 

[whitecoast]

Hi Mikel!

Ok, I think I fully understand what you mean now and will keep that in mind with my future posts (trying to check my presumptions and how I convey the information).

Thanks!

And, as a follow up, I emailed him suggesting High Strangeness and cassiopaea.org, and also the youtube series "A Course on Knowledge and Being", to which he replied and said that Laura's books are his handbooks and he cites her extensively, but that he was not aware of the videos and grateful for the link.

I find it a little strange that he cites high strangeness and the cassiopaean transcripts, and yet he thinks that abductions are benign upgrades from the good guys. It sounds like he's either cherry-picking and ignoring evidence of alien hostility, or just being as diplomatic as possible to all channels (including the disinfo) by presenting what each says as unbiasedly as possible. *Shrugs* "To those who have ears, let them hear."

 

[Foxx]

I find it a little strange that he cites high strangeness and the cassiopaean transcripts, and yet he thinks that abductions are benign upgrades from the good guys. It sounds like he's either cherry-picking and ignoring evidence of alien hostility, or just being as diplomatic as possible to all channels (including the disinfo) by presenting what each says as unbiasedly as possible. *Shrugs* "To those who have ears, let them hear."

Yeah--I'm not sure he was being completely honest with me regarding reading the books or, at "best", considers all channeled material to be of equal quality (which, again, suggests not reading the books).

 

[ana]

I find it a little strange that he cites high strangeness and the cassiopaean transcripts, and yet he thinks that abductions are benign upgrades from the good guys. It sounds like he's either cherry-picking and ignoring evidence of alien hostility, or just being as diplomatic as possible to all channels (including the disinfo) by presenting what each says as unbiasedly as possible. *Shrugs* "To those who have ears, let them hear."

Yeah--I'm not sure he was being completely honest with me regarding reading the books or, at "best", considers all channeled material to be of equal quality (which, again, suggests not reading the books).

Another possibility is that He is using Laura's and others work only to promote his own pack of lies.

 

[Foxx]

Another possibility is that He is using Laura's and others work only to promote his own pack of lies.

Yeah, I'd go with "probability" in that regard--my bet is that he's active disinfo.