Dreams
- Thread starter Kila
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Okay let me try this again...
I didn't see this until I had already posted my first response.. but yes...exactly that.. and you put it much better than I do.
I gotcha.
yes...okay... in other words become a smarter wabbit.
Okay... I get it...wax on, wax off. It is pretty difficult. Growing up with a great deal of high strangeness and at the same time certain I was going to hell, and careful since multiple family members had either mysteriously disappeared, committed suicide or been put away. It makes for an interesting childhood. I think for me learning to observe my reactions and hold them at bay, sort of like pretty stones, I'll just keep that in my pocket for now thanks, kept me alive and relatively sane. Still there was a tremendous amount of secrecy and I'm sure some disassociation on my part. In fact I had this huge epiphany just last night about a behavior that I just took for granted but after scratching the surface a bit I discovered just where it came from. So, I know I have a ton of work to do. I have had therapy but some of this stuff I would feel very reticent to bring up in front of a therapist. I'm sure there are a host of possible pills that could fix both me and my daughter.
There is some fear around the phenomenon, but I have been around and experiencing this my whole life and trying to figure it out. Sometimes stuff scares me but that was something I was taught really early on, how to observe the fear, to just notice it and then leave it, at least in those kinds of situations.
I would say the fear you are sensing is motivated by something else entirely. The fear that ya'll will think I'm a nut. I don't talk about this stuff outside my family at all. And most of my family is dead. So...... here I am. It does make me exceptionally nervous talking about it.. so I kind of just vomit it all out and then go smoke heavily for about an hour..
Thank you and thank you
wado
pilamaye
I can't begin to tell you all how much appreciation I have for you
I didn't see this until I had already posted my first response.. but yes...exactly that.. and you put it much better than I do.
I gotcha.
yes...okay... in other words become a smarter wabbit.
Okay... I get it...wax on, wax off. It is pretty difficult. Growing up with a great deal of high strangeness and at the same time certain I was going to hell, and careful since multiple family members had either mysteriously disappeared, committed suicide or been put away. It makes for an interesting childhood. I think for me learning to observe my reactions and hold them at bay, sort of like pretty stones, I'll just keep that in my pocket for now thanks, kept me alive and relatively sane. Still there was a tremendous amount of secrecy and I'm sure some disassociation on my part. In fact I had this huge epiphany just last night about a behavior that I just took for granted but after scratching the surface a bit I discovered just where it came from. So, I know I have a ton of work to do. I have had therapy but some of this stuff I would feel very reticent to bring up in front of a therapist. I'm sure there are a host of possible pills that could fix both me and my daughter.
There is some fear around the phenomenon, but I have been around and experiencing this my whole life and trying to figure it out. Sometimes stuff scares me but that was something I was taught really early on, how to observe the fear, to just notice it and then leave it, at least in those kinds of situations.
I would say the fear you are sensing is motivated by something else entirely. The fear that ya'll will think I'm a nut. I don't talk about this stuff outside my family at all. And most of my family is dead. So...... here I am. It does make me exceptionally nervous talking about it.. so I kind of just vomit it all out and then go smoke heavily for about an hour..
Thank you and thank you
wado
pilamaye
I can't begin to tell you all how much appreciation I have for you
Avi
Jedi Council Member
I recently had a dream, although an "experience" might be more accurate a description. Over the years I have had many dreams that "stick" with me, some of those will be shared at another time, but this one first as it was just the other night.
There is not too much to the dream, but what does seem important is the "effect". In a nutshell, there was this perception of a tetrahedron, shining and intense light, as if it were vibrating or even "alive" - yet though from a certain angle it appeared to be a pyramid, within the "dream" there was this knowledge that it was seven-sided.
When I think of the shape of tetrahedron today I cannot help but think of some esoteric works I've read which describe the relationship between "the three" and "the four" that is, the heptagon, as the "symbol of God". To be clear, it was a pyramid shape in my dream and I mention the heptagon because of the relationship to the number 7, or the 3 and the 4. Without directly being aware of it, I was aware in the dream of some significance pertaining to the number 7 and what I was seeing/experiencing.
Anyways, all of those thoughts were not in my awareness during the experience, only the sight of this bright white light radiating from the tetrahedron, which seemed seven-sided and in the dream it seemed that I was being told it was "turning" so that one side which has not been "seen" by humanity for eons was now coming into alignment.
The most striking thing, however, and this is why I call it an experience rather than a "dream" was the distinct feeling that thought had stopped. I do not know how to describe this other than to say that as I was in mid-dream state and for the slightest moment of time (though it also seemed, due to the intensity of the dream, to be a "long" time) that my thoughts were null and void, if I can use that term. I don't know what I can say, I've never had such a sensation before in waking consciousness, not during meditation or any other dreams. I could sense that there was "no thought" - and as I awoke in bed, noticed this, when suddenly, like you turn a spigot on a faucet, thoughts came streaming into consciousness! LOL and arrgggh. It was as if at the moment of noticing there was not thought, thought came tumbling in! This was a keen and distinguishing characteristic of the dream.
Aside from this, for a few moments as I was waking and lying in bed, I distinctly heard a voice or voices, a melody of sorts, which struck me as feminine, and as I tried to identify the source of the sound it "felt" like it was coming from the living room. This lasted a few seconds, it seemed that something was being said but I could not understand or decipher the "words" only knowing that the sensation was sound, I distinctly HEARD some-thing! I began to think maybe the TV was on (though I knew it was not) or perhaps I was "hearing" or communicating telepathically with one of my girls (dogs) that will sometimes sleep on the couch in the other room where the sound seemed to be coming from.
Once these thoughts started this "pressure" which seemed to surround my head "lifted" and I was in normal awareness, lying in bed, and the thought spigot churned.
Perhaps it was merely a dream? Perhaps an encounter with some aspect of myself? Perhaps those damn aliens were messing with me? Perhaps something less alluring and more mundane?
At any event it was quite an experience and just wanted to share with you all.
With kind regards,
~Avi
There is not too much to the dream, but what does seem important is the "effect". In a nutshell, there was this perception of a tetrahedron, shining and intense light, as if it were vibrating or even "alive" - yet though from a certain angle it appeared to be a pyramid, within the "dream" there was this knowledge that it was seven-sided.
When I think of the shape of tetrahedron today I cannot help but think of some esoteric works I've read which describe the relationship between "the three" and "the four" that is, the heptagon, as the "symbol of God". To be clear, it was a pyramid shape in my dream and I mention the heptagon because of the relationship to the number 7, or the 3 and the 4. Without directly being aware of it, I was aware in the dream of some significance pertaining to the number 7 and what I was seeing/experiencing.
Anyways, all of those thoughts were not in my awareness during the experience, only the sight of this bright white light radiating from the tetrahedron, which seemed seven-sided and in the dream it seemed that I was being told it was "turning" so that one side which has not been "seen" by humanity for eons was now coming into alignment.
The most striking thing, however, and this is why I call it an experience rather than a "dream" was the distinct feeling that thought had stopped. I do not know how to describe this other than to say that as I was in mid-dream state and for the slightest moment of time (though it also seemed, due to the intensity of the dream, to be a "long" time) that my thoughts were null and void, if I can use that term. I don't know what I can say, I've never had such a sensation before in waking consciousness, not during meditation or any other dreams. I could sense that there was "no thought" - and as I awoke in bed, noticed this, when suddenly, like you turn a spigot on a faucet, thoughts came streaming into consciousness! LOL and arrgggh. It was as if at the moment of noticing there was not thought, thought came tumbling in! This was a keen and distinguishing characteristic of the dream.
Aside from this, for a few moments as I was waking and lying in bed, I distinctly heard a voice or voices, a melody of sorts, which struck me as feminine, and as I tried to identify the source of the sound it "felt" like it was coming from the living room. This lasted a few seconds, it seemed that something was being said but I could not understand or decipher the "words" only knowing that the sensation was sound, I distinctly HEARD some-thing! I began to think maybe the TV was on (though I knew it was not) or perhaps I was "hearing" or communicating telepathically with one of my girls (dogs) that will sometimes sleep on the couch in the other room where the sound seemed to be coming from.
Once these thoughts started this "pressure" which seemed to surround my head "lifted" and I was in normal awareness, lying in bed, and the thought spigot churned.
Perhaps it was merely a dream? Perhaps an encounter with some aspect of myself? Perhaps those damn aliens were messing with me? Perhaps something less alluring and more mundane?
At any event it was quite an experience and just wanted to share with you all.
With kind regards,
~Avi
